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August 16, 2020 9:38 am at 9:38 am in reply to: Will the eventual closure of the USPO impact you? #18924872scentsParticipant
I am no logistics expert, but for those worried because they are reliant on the postal service, there are other companies that offer similar serviecs, such as FedEx, UPS or DHL.
August 14, 2020 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18922002scentsParticipantWith the extremely rapid rate of transmission it would be fair to assume that the areas that were infected first were the first ones to be exposed to the virus. Which is why some are saying that it was released from a lab and maybe the Wuhan lab.
Why are you saying that it was not the Wuhan lab?
August 14, 2020 10:22 am at 10:22 am in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18921112scentsParticipanthealth,
I was responding to n0m, who stated that viruses are a part of our existence. As to dismiss the fact that viruses are harvested in labs and there is a possibility that they might have been released.
August 13, 2020 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18919732scentsParticipant“Viruses are part of our existence. Blame whomever you blame for your own existence.”
yet we try very hard to minimize becoming infected from viruses, which is why we have vaccines and try not to release dangerous contageous viruses from labs.
August 13, 2020 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18919702scentsParticipantn0mesorah,
a. What are your sources for these claims.
b. Please tell us that your not going by the data that the Chinese government released.
2scentsParticipantSilly discussion, blaming politicians from the opposing party. As if the local politicians from your own party had any clue what they are doing.
August 11, 2020 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18911992scentsParticipantjdf007
Are you posting from China?
If the true numbers were transparent and the rapid transmission and the loss of treatment options were communicated, the world would have a chance to properly prepare for this pandemic.
August 11, 2020 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18911682scentsParticipantjdf007
Shanghai lab shut after posting the genome of the Covid19 virus.
All news reports indicated massive coverups going on in China with scientists and doctors that veered from the official line, to be punished.
These are just two examples.
2scentsParticipantInteresting, seems like Charlie and the Netura Karta have pretty similar views.
August 10, 2020 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm in reply to: Are the Chinese to blame for the covid-19 disease? #18908642scentsParticipantakuperman,
Obviously the question the OP raised was if the Chineses government are to blame about the virus, not the actual Chinese population.
Personally, I believe that due to the nature of the Chinese being so secretive it will take a while if ever, for the truth to be known. At this point its all speculation.
We do know that it originated in China, and that it was initially downplayed by the Chinese government.
2scentsParticipant“Why was a braindead person put on life support if the foetus was no longer alive or viable”
I am not sure about the case your referring to. However, usually the say this works is that patients are placed on life support prior to them reaching an irreversible state.
2scentsParticipantReb Eliezer
“The question is if then, is it worthwhile to take on any risk?”
The question is if it helps.
For patients that are already very sick, that we know it does not help, for the patients that are still at the early stages of the disease some are arguing that it does help.
As of yet, there is no conclusive evidence to this, some argue that desperate times call for desperate measures. Usually, we like to have clear evidence before a treatment protocol is widely accepted.
If this treatment turns out to actually be effective, the potential risk for most patients is minimal.
2scentsParticipantUbiq,
My post was directed at Charlie Hall who put down other posters making it sound like some states got all wrong and as if there is some authoritative consensus as to how to deal with the virus.
While progress has been made, there are still a lot that is unknown. Including as to why other states have much less hospitalizations and death rates than others.
2scentsParticipantHow does that add up?
Less hospitalizations, but similar mortality level?
Are these people dying at home, or do they have a greater mortality rate once hospitalized?
2scentsParticipantSome good news it seems like a vaccine will be available shortly and initial testing seems that it is safe and effective.
2scentsParticipantNo one is enjoying any deaths, let alone mass deaths.
Not sure you can be taken seriously when you make such vile accusations.
2scentsParticipantCharlie,
Can you explain as to why once the lockdown has been lifted, the cases remained extremely low?
Also, why is the hospitalization and death rate not matching those of NY/NJ despite the higher positive rate?
With regards. to the studies that were stopped, can you elaborate as to the patients that were included in the study, patients at home with just mild symptoms such as were seen in the early phases of the illness, or those already admitted to a hospital?
2scentsParticipantCharlie,
To summarize, Trump is bad, Cuomo is good. Decisions on the local level including within the local healthcare system and hospital decisions as well as PPE stock is all the federal government’s fault.
Got it.
2scentsParticipant“It is a shame that you feel this is a political issue. I guess on some level the great depression was a political issue as well as it gave rise to fdr and Nazi Germany.”
Actually, your proving my point.
This is NOT a political issue, yet both sides are inserting their biases into this discussion.
To rephrase, this is not a political issue, yet it is being used for political reasons with no regard for the science.
2scentsParticipantThe problem is that politics and biases are a factor, on both sides of the argument.
This should be a scientific and fact-driven discussion.
Even your post has politics in it, you have demonstrated your political bias and even inserted it as part of your argument. You are guilty of the same thing you are accusing others.
2scentsParticipant“I was asking if you are advocating for Federal Agents, like Portland has. I have no idea how it is helping. And it seems to be at least borderline unconstitutional. Is it a dress rehearsal?”
It seems like they are vandalizing federal property. Now, I am not sure if that changes anything from a legal perspective. But at least some can understand as to why the federal government is getting involved.
Furthermore, if the population is being threatened by vandalists and looters, and the local municipality and the state are refusing to take action, while it might not change much legally, it would seem justified for the feds to move in and establish normal order.
2scentsParticipantCharlie
“My wife has lost jobs because she refused to work on Shabbat.”
Kiddush Hashem!
2scentsParticipantThey should ask their doctor about it, its a medication. Medication is not something that you just decide to obtain and take on your own.
2scentsParticipantI dont believe that anyone is making the argument that one political party is equal to the Jewish religion. Rather that one is more in line and should be supported over the other.
July 13, 2020 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18819022scentsParticipantn0mesor,
I am not sure the source for Floyd swallowing drugs prior to his arrest. However, the amounts found in his blood were pretty decent, especially if you combine all the different types of opioids together. When that gets mixed with meth, it can do really bad things.
Now, people respond differently to different levels of opioids, depending on how often and much they ‘use’ these drugs.
2scentsParticipantWe can save lives if we all started walking around with helmets.
July 13, 2020 10:00 am at 10:00 am in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18817402scentsParticipantI just read the autopsy report, from the Hennepin County medical examiner. There is nothing in the report that would indicate the cause of death. Yet, they do list pretty decent doses of opioids found in the patients blood and that was mixed with meth.
This leaves room for the defense to argue that what actually was happening was the opioids kicking in, which cause respiratory depression and not the knee to the neck.
July 13, 2020 9:53 am at 9:53 am in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18817342scentsParticipantMilhouse
“2scents, the “victim” DID NOT ASPHYXIATE. There was no physical sign of it.”
I am not a pathologist or have any experience in post mortem pathology, I would not know what to look for to see if there was asphyxiation or not.
July 12, 2020 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18815822scentsParticipantubiq,
“I dont really understand your question.
The entire neck is compressible, Chauvin had Floyd’s neck pressed against the soldi ground
This would absolutely be expected to constrict the airway whether constricted anterior or posteriorly if it is held against a fixed surface (the ground)”True, if there is hard surface at both sides, such as the knee and something else, that would compress the trachea which would occlude the airway and asphyxiate the victim. However, just holding one’s knee to the posterior of the head does not necessarily asphyxiate, I am trying to picture this and it seems that the head which is a large bony structure would actually prevent the ground which is flat and large to compress the neck.
Unless there was a smaller hard object that compressed the neck anteriorly.
Which is why they are naming it positional asphyxia. Positional asphyxia also is used to explain why despite being able to talk, which requires inhalation and exhalation the victim still asphyxiated.
As I noted, I might very likely be completely wrong with all of this, but if we focus on the dry facts, the facts are not so clean. (I have still not watched the video, and have no intentions on doing so at the moment).
July 12, 2020 5:11 pm at 5:11 pm in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18815852scentsParticipantchash
“The answers that DO work are the ones that explain that the asphyxiation was due to the blood flow being restricted, not the difficulty breathing.”
There are two carotid arteries feeding blood supply to the brain, they are located on both sides of the neck more towards the front. occluding one, should not cause a normal healthy person to go into cardiac arrest.
July 12, 2020 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18815142scentsParticipantMistykins,
“According to Detroit’s own records, police have knocked 44 people unconscious in the last 5 years with neck kneels.”
This number is meaningless without a complete context.
How many arrests over 5 years? How many of those arrests utilized the knee to the back of the neck approach?
is it 44 out of 40? or 44 out of 4400?
How many people became unresponsive when placed in handcuffs or simply booked in jail? over 5 years or over 10 years?
Numbers mean very little when taken out of context.
July 12, 2020 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18815112scentsParticipantUbiq,
“sine the Ribono Shel olam desined man with a narrow area though which blood vessels and the trachea travel.”
The trachea is more anterior, I don’t see why pressing the posterior of the neck should occlude one’s airway or it should impact circulation to the brain.
In fact, they labeled it positional asphyxia, meaning its the exact position that caused the victim/patient to asphyxiate.
I am not claiming to be an expert in these or any matters, nor am I excusing any behavior that has a disregard for human life, I am just questioning the facts as we know them.
July 12, 2020 11:27 am at 11:27 am in reply to: Do our eyes tell us what happened to GEORGE FLOYD #18813872scentsParticipantInteresting point the OP is making.
While I have nit watched the clip, healthy people have collateral circulation and two arteries positioned at the opposite sides of their neck that feed blood to the brain, I dont think that applying pressure to the back of the neck without using any hands would cut off circulation, but I havent experimented it either..
I asked a police officer who told me that using the knee is basic academy training, and should not kill anyone.
But as I mentioned, I am no expert and haven’t even tried it.
2scentsParticipant“Maybe you had no success bc you’re an incompetent Doctor. You know that there are quite a few quacks out there.”
Not only is this a rude statement, but also ridiculous by calling someone with a doctor’s degree in medicine a quack, assuming ubiquitin is a doctor.
if one is confident about their position, they do not need to resort to shaming and name-calling, they can focus on the discussion at hand. There will always be people that are otherwise smart and knowledgeable that will disagree.
2scentsParticipant“compared to throwing them of a building roof?”
What’s the rationale behind this, or is this just a wild assumption your making?
2scentsParticipantI did not have a chance to actually read it, just glanced at it.
2scentsParticipantPublished yesterday in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.
Conclusions and Relevance
In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality. Prospective trials are needed to examine this impact.2scentsParticipantThat study is specific for in-hospital patients, the consensus more or less is that there is no benefit for in-hospital patients.
The claim, but those who still claim that it is beneficial is mainly if started early, prior to symptoms that require hospitalization.
2scentsParticipantsmerel,
Very valid point, but even without this point, there is equal opportunity.
While some might have to work harder to reach the same outcome, the same is said for people of all races, as the majority of all people are not wealthy which means that they need to work harder than the 1%. (the 99% includes people of all races).
2scentsParticipantTo add to what Joseph posted.
They did not have stable jobs, getting a new job only to be fired for not showing up on Shabboss.
2scentsParticipantChaim Shulem
“ 2cents – why do you assume black community leaders aren’t trying to work on it?”
I am not assuming, it just isnt there.
The few that do say it, are dismissed by the black community as being sold out to conservatives or white people.
For some reason most of the leaders in tye blck community like it when they are victims, they arent asking for equal opportunity.
2scentsParticipantCharlie
“ If the victim were a frum Jew everyone here would be calling for capital murder charges against the cops.”
Thats pure assumption and some would argue the opposite.
We had a number of recent attacks specifically targeting jews, yet the response from the community was civil and not what you would expect if it were the other way around. So your negative assumption, is just that.
2scentsParticipantAsimoleyid,
If you are so certain about the science surrounding masks, can you explain as to why the frum areas have a very high proportion of people not wearing masks. Yet, have almost zero new cases for the past few weeks?
2scentsParticipantSo it seems that the vast majority of people in NY, especially among the frum orthodox jews are not mask bearers, yet there is no surge of the coronavirus.
That is not to say that masks are not beneficial, and there can be other factors at play here, but it seems that masks are not necessarily the answer to everything.
2scentsParticipantChaim,
Definitions are important when you state that there is systematic racism against blacks, does that mean there are polices in place that targets specific groups of people?
Are you referring to affirmative action?
Or any other policies?
You use bad neglected areas or lack of good jobs. Is that the result of racism? What can be done to change that? Funnel billions of dollars towards those specific groups?
If the lack of father figure, lack of being raised with the same moral compass as others is a sign of systematic racism and the communities own doing, then we have different definitions for what systematic racism is.
I have mentioned this recently here, all that you have listed is true, but where are the black community leaders when it comes to these issues? Why are they busy instigating the black community to become racists and go against the white man?
Charlie has called me out as a bigot, and others have disagreed very strongly. But none have pointed out anything that would indicate that any of the leaders in the black community that actually are actively working on these major issues.
2scentsParticipant“That’s because he probably was a Conservative.”
Ha Ha!
Never assume facts.
2scentsParticipantThanks for the entertainment.
2scentsParticipantAnyone else here thinks that ubiquitin and Health are really just one person having fun here?
2scentsParticipantGreat idea, why ask your doctor when you can just get answers from the coffee room?!
If you have to do something, that is dependant on your local laws, if scientifically there is any point for doing so, this will take some time to know for sure.
June 15, 2020 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm in reply to: Are Law abiding minorities affected by police racism? #18724802scentsParticipantAt this point, I really do not see why someone would focus on a law enforcement career. There is so much stacked against these professionals.
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