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Abba_S
“undoubedtly they are both at fault to some extent”
Why do you say so?
Yabia,
Does the secular year 2021 have any significance that would limit the topics that you feel jews should busy themselves?
Is it so that yemenites didnt change much from the times of the Beis Hamikdush? If so, can we assume that at the times of the churban jews had peyos like the yemenites have?
It really depends on what metrics or capabilities we would be looking at.
If it is GDP spend, total or ratio of insured vs the uninsured, available resources?
For those with very complicated health problems, I don’t think we find many Americans going to Israel for more advanced care, vs Israelis that come to the USA for advanced treatments.
If we were to compare flying to sailing, one might have to board the airplane at least 3 days prior to the flight.
Reb E,
Thanks for explaining.
philosopher,
If you say so…
ubiq,
Apparently, the increased fuel consumption is bishul, but as I wrote, I do not think there is an increase in fuel consumption with commercial airliners caused by an individual.
NonImpeditiRationeCogitationis
These halachos are brought down in Shulchan Aruch,
Reb E,
“I think a ship is different as you don’t feel its movement.”
Why would that matter?
philosopher
Everything you wrote is your own assumption. Assumptions can be fabricated to support one’s own biases.
Most insurance companies would rather settle even when they believe the facts are on their side, they prefer to make it quick and clean so they can move on.
This is especially true in medical-related cases.
Even with a civil case, the burden of proof is on the plaintiff. Being that the videos are the videos and the alleged victim has already testified under oath, there would be little to go with should someone want to prosecute a civil case. So the likelihood of there being a civil case is small.
Claiming miscarriage of justice is a political thing, the DOJ has no office that investigates any miscarriage of justice.
There also is no civil rights claim, as Rittenhouse did not deny anyone of their civil rights.
GH
“As a practical matter, I agree that short of being detained or arrested, these individuals had no choice.”
That in its own is a choice, either being detained or flying on shabbos.ubiq,
“No techum in the air, though if takes off on shabbos is a problem on the runway. Even if argue that are 10 tefachuim off the ground, if plane sitting on ground may be a problem”
The actual flying might not be a techum issue. However, they do have a tchum issue once they arrive, as they are coming from out of the tchum and may need to remain in place.
“Causing the plane to burn more fuel?”
This would be “marbe B’shiurim”. However, its unlikely that any one person would cause a commercial airliner to burn more fuel.ujm,
It is not like people are using these letters as evidence to prosecute this sect/cult. However, based on many reports, including people that have not left the group, all these claims and reports seem to be pretty consistent.
Besides, it’s not like these governments that are involved fear these groups, it’s basic humanity to try whatever is possible to save the children and those that are unfortunately caught up in this cult.
People thought that Helbrans was a fanatic cult leader. When compared to the current leader(s), he actually seems so liberal.
We (as a community and society) intervene when there seems to be abuse and neglect involving children and elderly people. We should also be concerned about the alleged and apparent abuse that involving young children.
n0mesorah
You should find more people.
Syag,
“ It may be as you say that the person who has such a record will most likely be more menacing, I just see that more as a court defense issue than a shaas maisa consideration.”
I did not follow this case that closely, but in general the court would only allow characterizations or personal information that the defendant had at the time of the incident.
Yserbius123
““Not guilty” just means “Kyle Rittenhouse did not commit intentional homicide”
Correct, and we can argue all day on how virtuous Rittenhouse was or not. However, the narrative from a political standpoint was that he was a murder and some politicians publically stated that this is a miscarriage of justice, which this was not.
Just trying to imagine if he were not to exercise his ability to defend himself from the individuals that had intent and took action to kill him. What would have been the political response?
Rosenbaum, huber and that other guy would be prosecuted for manslaughter?
If not, why not?
If yes, why then was it not Ok for him to defend himself using an equal force to the threat?
Jackk,
“ A 17 year old with an AR-15 style rifle kills a man who didn’t have a weapon and he should not have been prosecuted?”
While he is no hero and did something stupid by putting himself in this position. Your dismissing the fact that he was assaulted with a deadly weapon and an attempt to kill him was initiated by others. At that moment, there is the doctrine of self defense.
it’s unacceptable to dismiss the fact that he was acting in self defense and accuse him of being a murderer. I hope no one is judged by this standard.
The people that he shot, are not innocent. While any human loss is tragic and should be avoided, the doctrine of self defense at the expense of the would-be murderer, is accepted.
At least from an apolitical viewpoint.
“ I’m curious about this specific course of action, if you have already caught Covid is there any benefit to vaccinate afterwards?”
Yes, there definitely is benefit. The serum testing showed that natural antibodies together with the vaccine had the strongest immunity.
That said, it may be reasonable for you to chose to defer the vaccine for now.
Just give in, live life and let the new world order do their thing.
AAQ,
This is from the UK Government press release.
“Molnupiravir has been authorised for use in people who have mild to moderate COVID-19 and at least one risk factor for developing severe illness. Such risk factors include obesity, older age (>60 years), diabetes mellitus, or heart disease.”
So apparently they are also initially reserving it for those with at least one risk factor. I assume that with time, the recommendations will be adjusted based on the data.
AAQ,
I assume the reason for being cautious about the new drug is because the side effects are unknown. Some believe there is potential concern that it may play with peoples DNA, the same way it does with the virus. Others argue that the few doses people will be taking is not concerning.
Which is why initially it may only be approved for high risks patients, where the benefits outweigh the potential concerns.
fluvoxamine Has shown a lot of promise in the together trial, its an already approved drug and also pretty cheap. The
hml
“I PERSONALLY have seen nisim from the Rebbe in ways I would never believe had they not happened to my family.”
What are you trying to prove or explain with this?
Is this a reason as to why you attribute beyond human greatness to “the” Rebbe?
DovidBT
“One party is using mainstream news organizations and social media to spread misinformation, suppress facts and opinions they don’t like, and intimidate people who disagree with them.”
Both parties are utilizing whatever means they have to further their agenda and win. It is a democracy since people are the deciding factor as to which party should be in control. You can push an extreme agenda only so far, things eventually balance out. It seems that as one party takes control and pushes their agenda, there is pushback from the population and they lose control.
politics is like a pendulum, it keeps all sides in check.
If one side has to much power, they start passing legislation that is more extreme to their side, people don’t like it and they vote for the other party. This seems to be happening time after time.
It seems to be happening more when parties become more extreme, such as Trump and now the Democratic party with their agendas. This is how a democracy is supposed to work.
It would be interesting to understand how and why the Lubabitcher chassidim bought into the notion about their Rebbe being the Mashiach.
What has he done, in their point of view, to make them believe in their Rebbe so much, to say that he is the Mashiach?
For those that believe that he is still alive (literally or spiritually), what has he done that is so deserving of giving him this status, especially when compared to other previous tzadikim or Prophets?
DY,
They need better data to make a recommendation. The NIH has listed ivermectin as not for or against it, but more studies are needed to see if it is effective.
Interesting how molnupiravir works, it binds to the viruses amino acids interfering with its ability to replicate, at least there is a 50% chance it wont be able to replicate.
Being that the results were very substantial they were able to stop the study as the predetermined objectives were reached.
DY,
Once a drug is approved, a physician may take the responsibility and prescribe drugs for different diseases and different doses, based on knowledge and professional judgment.
Ivermectin may be prescribed by providers. However, since it is not approved for Covid use, the insurance may refuse to cover the costs (which can be expensive).
ujm,
“People who recovered from Covid do not need the vaccine”
Maybe if they had sufficient antibodies the argument might make some sense. Just because someone had covid in the past does not make them immune, there are a lot of people that got covid twice. In fact, bad covid twice, with hypoxia and severe respiratory symptoms.
Yaakov doe,
“I have yet to meet a physician or nurse who has not been vaccinated and had all eligible family members vaccinated.”
There are hospitals facing nursing shortages due to being forced to comply with state regulations that mandate healthcare workers to be vaccinated.
It doesn’t really matter if a crisis began under someones watch, especially something that is completely not under our control such as Covid, global shipping crisis, China power outages.
Yet, all of this has an effect on our country.
What really matters is what is being done in response to these crises.
The times when Papa bar abba and his younger brother were active, I would stop by to read their hilarious posts.
Dr. Nat,
While I responded to your post, I didnt think that its your responsibility to do a study demonstrating the efficacy of Ivermectin when it comes to Covid.
But there are groups out there promoting the drug for Covid as a treatment and prophylaxis. They make various claims, why not conduct a standard study that can objectively be used to make that point?
Dr. Nat,
“ being that I had personal anecdotal evidence of its success to share with the Tzibbur.”
Why not reproduce the same results in a controlled trial so the rest of us can rely on this.
Furthermore, when its an uncontrolled setting there might be other factors or biases involved that makes the data less reliable.
Dr. Nat
“ My point was that when disclosing side effects of a medicine, they are not “what happens when you overdose”. The side effects are real effects of taking actual prescribed dosages”
Well, you did write the following.
“Dangerous side effects of Ivermectin include nausea and vomiting IF YOU OVERDOSE. So basically, same as alcohol.”
You even put the words “if you overdose” in CAP, this seems that your not referring to normal doses.
It also seems to imply that overdosing or excessive alcohol is benign, its not.
Health,
“In this case, the people that believe in it have no interest.
They usually are individual practioners, that just want to do what they think is best for the patient.”Unfortunately, this has become political with both sides of the debate saying they are using science. However, it seems to be politically slanted, with a lot of myside bias.
MDG.
“I also found an article from the NIH that mentions its efficacy.”
The current NIH position is neither for or against Ivermecting and that more studies are needed.
FrumWhere,
“Do we need a study to show that stopping at red lights prevents accidents?”
With regards to red lights, it may or may not require studies to implement traffic lights, but if you are going to recommend a treatment on a national level you do need data that produced positive results.
Put it this way, if it is effective against the Covid virus, producing data shouldn’t be a problem. It may be that such studies are underway.
Dr. Nat,
“Dangerous side effects of Ivermectin include nausea and vomiting IF YOU OVERDOSE. So basically, same as alcohol.”
Just because they include otherwise relatively benign side effects does not mean they don’t have serious side effects such as seizures or coma. Given that those side effects are probably from very high doses and not common, they are there.
Also, as a side note, alcohol overdose and toxicity are no laughing matter.
This does not mean that Ivermectin or any drug is ineffective for Covid, nor that it has a relative safety profile, but as most things, they do have possible side effects.
kollelman,
“Statistically, there is more danger in the vaccine than covid.”
Can you objectively prove that?
Or are you just setting the stage with your own made-up facts?
” There is no reason to take a “vaday” dangerous vaccine to prevent a “safek” danger from treatable covid.”
Once again, this is based on your own facts. Unless you can objectively back those claims, there is no reason you should be taken seriously.
Chai_18
Before going into your core question with regards to extending ones life despite it being clear from a medical and scientific stance that there are no chances for long term recovery.
You mention pain, patients do not need to experience pain, it can and should be managed well. And can also include managing their anxiety as well.
With regards to resuscitation or supportive care for none viable patients, this is a complex halacha question and needs people that are knowledgeable with the medical and halacha reality and is usually dealt with on a case by case basis.
But in general, we value every moment of life even if the patient cannot enjoy life or fully function. It can also be that patients don’t have a right to end their lives or to refrain from being treated (this pertains to halacha, in general patients have autonomy and can decide on their own for or against treatment as long as they have complete mental capacity).
There are organizations that deal with these issues.
Health,
“ all she wanted was to increase the Narcs right away. Probably that he/she should go ASAP.”
Or maybe so the patient shouldn’t experience pain and get comfort care as they are nearing the end of their life.
At times even rabbonim allow patients to be under hospice care, there are organizations and rabbonim that deal with this.
Health,
Protocols serve as a basis and are used most of the times for most patients, its like bones without flesh and serves as an acceptable standard to rely on when appropriate.
If course clinicians bring their understanding, experience and advanced knowledge to the table which allows them to at times deviate from a protocol or an accepted standard approach.
Im not really sure how your question proves that you have an advanced understanding with regards to medicine or Managing sick covid patients.
TU
“ I get far more requests about vaccine injuries/side effects and prophylaxis, especially recently with the vaccine mandates.”
What are the extent of the injuries, and what role do you play diagnosing and treating these patients?
TU
You claim to have directed people to hospitals that follow the FLCCC recommendations.
A. I am curious to know what hospital that may be.
B. Aside from Ivermectin, which can be given outpatient, what other treatments are local hospitals denying patients?
TU
“ The low dose was only one of the dexa probs. Malone’s study didn’t underdose on Dexa, and still found it to be comparatively horrible and possibly nasty side effect profile to boot. ”
Can you please direct me to this study?
Re ventilation, while you may have objective measurable metrics doesnt mean that it actually matters.
As the saying goes, not everything that can be counted counts.