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agent,
Three things come to my mind.
Either that person was not a member, just someone with lights and sirens that took unreasonable and dangerous risk and broke the law.
Either the call has been canceled or downgraded, (for instance as the first person the scene radios to the other units responding that they can downgrade it and proceed without lights and sirens.
Or, this was a bad apple, someone that misused and abused his L&S.
There is no real way of knowing what really happened. I know that it looks upsetting when you see someone turning on his L&S only to shut it a few minutes later, however there might be a legitimate reason as to why he did so.
When men and women get together, usually there is laughing with direct eye contact, this is against halacha.
Someone once asked Harav Avigdor Miller, “what about the Dinosaurs?” to which he responded, “and what about them?”.
He claimed that he does not know if they existed or not. They do not prove or disprove any theory regarding Creation.
There are no perks.
They are not allowed to use L&S when not on call.
The OP is referring to VAS plates, sometimes cops will look the other way if someone has VAS or EMT plates, however these are not perks.
I cannot understand how people are jealous of volunteers who respond without prior notice, they give up their schedule to help the community.
Why would a man WANT to sit near an unrelated female?
Never mind, don’t answer that..
Health, I do not think that this using L&S for nothing is something that happens often.
Maybe in NJ where L&S is prohibited the members break the law and use. however in NY most members use the L&S responsible.
Harav Avigdor miller was once asked if mixed seating is permitted, He responded that only if its imidiate family. Otherwise there should be no mixed seating, when asked why, he said because of nature..
smartcookie,
just a correction, it shows a lack of secular education. Equal to those that show up at a minyan to say kadish and hardly manage to get it right..
Its plainly wrong to have young men staring at ladies especially when they are dancing.
Is there anything else left for us to argue about?
They explain to the judge that they were on call.
Naysberg,
No that is not correct, they will ticket cars that have VAS plates as well.
In fact Members get tickets all the time when on call.
I personally think that Obama did not behave right nor directly answer the questions.
On the other hand Romney had class, addressed the answers, and showed the president that he was lying in a very polite way.
Health,
Why would you get pulled over if you do not have L&S and are not passing through any red lights?
I know that anyone can listen to scanners, however that does not mean that a member using L&S is not legit. most people do not have scanners and they complain because they do not know what went on behind the scene.
Also some members respond to a private calls in which they contact the dispatcher by phone.
Health,
Correct me if I am wrong, in NJ EMTs are not allowed to have red lights or pass through red lights, they have to follow the regular traffic rules.
That is why cops would pull over EMTs that respond in their personal cars.
In NY, the law permits EMTs to have lights and sirens and go through red lights.
I did not understand what you wrote regarding two units responding with the ambulance en route, all units respond on a code 1 unless advised otherwise, even if the ambulance is already on the way, the ambulance without EMTs is not worth much.
I will not deny that abuse does not exist, however it is not wide spread, at least not in the area I am. the member runs the risk of being caught either by PD (they can follow you to the scene), or by a coordinator. Most people that call in to complain are referring to a call that has been canceled or downgraded.
in the 60’s the women were more tzniusdig and the men were less pritzusdig.
I once attended a mixed simcha, it was disgusting, the socializing and laughing between the mingling men and women was really bad.
Most of our relatives do not have mixed seating at their simchos, those that do already know that I will not attend.
TLKY, I do not understand your questions, there are two separate issues being discussed here, Custom plates and Lights/Sirens.
I was referring to the custom plates which are nothing more than a nice license plate. Police do not hesitate to pull over a car that has custom plates.
Lights and Sirens are a different issue, they are only to be used in an emergency. People that abuse the L&S are usually not members of Hatzoloh, using L&S in an unauthorized manner is illegal and dangerous, the consequences are big.
First, Cops DO pull over cars even if they have EMT or VAS plates.
Regarding lights and sirens, I do not believe that Hatzoloh members abuse them, the consequences are to big to use them when not on an emergency.
You might see someone turn on the lights and sirens only to shut them a few seconds later, this happens all the time, either the patient stopped choking or the first member on scene radioed the units to slow it down.
This happens almost each day. There are those people who are out to correct the world and make sure to call the dispatcher on the hotline that unit so and so used lights and sirens to go through a red light.
ahaben,
You made two points. There is no abuse, since this does not mean that they are on official business, in fact service units which are not emergency vehicles also have VAS plates, all it means is that they are a volunteer, if someones has more than one car, he or she can put it on all the cars, this is a regular custom plate you can get one by taking an EMT course and placing it on ALL of your cars.
as I pointed out, VAS plates does not meant that the driver is on official business, so he can use it even when not on call, the fact that he will not get a ticket, does not make this an abuse.
It is his choice if he would like to take the risk and park illegally or not. the plates will not get a ticket dismissed.
this is up to the cops own discretion,the fact that police might look the other way if someone is one way or the other affiliated with an ambulance service, or if that person is a Lic EMT they have the right to have custom plates.
There is no abuse here.
Do you want the wife of a volunteer to remove the plates each time she uses the car?!
Placards are different then vas or emt plates.
Placards usually mean that your on official business.
What’s the issue?
These plates give the driver no privileges.
It is not Assur. only an Inyan.
the sukka does NOT become Tuma. period!
The Achronimi do not say that it is Assur.
Only that one should not do it, since there is an issue with theh Kedusha of the sukka.
this has nothing to do with a Goy building a sukka before sukkas, and has nothing to do with Halcha, this is just and Inyan.
Sam.
Is it done any different then when the chickens are transported to the slaughterhouse?
Tcg m
Sorry for misunderstanding your earlier post.
more_2
as other posters have commented, all you have is a theory. on the other hand you might be hurting a human being. It always pays to err on the side of caution.
Who said that the only way to do Kapporos is to treat the chickens improperly?
Everyone who does Kapporos with chickens (or any other living thin) has a chiyuv to make sure that there is no Tzaar to the chicken.
Adar, your point is?
You mean your minhag, not mine? Then why do you care what I buy?!
I cannot recall if I saw it in mishna berura or in piskei tshuvos, however one of them mention that it’s not appropiate to have a goy in the sukkah.
TCG,
I once heard Harav Avigdor Miller A”H talk about this topic, This is what he said.
The activists have a point, they are right! according to logic man has no right to kill animal. However, Hashem has told us otherwise that is why Jews have permission to kill animals for food.
IN other words, an atheist or anyone that does not believe in the Torah, has no permission to kill and eat animals, it is only the word of Hashem that permits us to do so.
Nice story.
You are lucky that you have ‘happened’ to find such a warm family.
yzz,
as a fellow body builder, the discussion here was not about body building, rather about which body figure a women would rather want.
I think that this is highly inappropriate.
Now you made us much more curious!
BTW, I see that my post did not go through, I really think that there is nothing wrong with my post, please let me know if otherwise.
Thanks!
I remember watching a long video on you tube regarding this conspiracy, it looked quite convincing.
Popa, I will admit, I got that line from you, I think that it is very true as well.
I have left other sites, and do not even read the posts of other news sites, since they are not moderated.
I do not believe that Reb Moshe would stay at such a shiur either.
Was eating breakfast. well, it was bein hazmanim. .
My older brother comes running into the kitchen, that he got a phone call about an accident on the twin towers.
I was like, big deal. place accidents happen frequently. he gave me that look and said this is the TWIN TOWERS. as we tuned into CBS News, they announced that they have reports about a second plane.
by the time we heard about the other hijacked planes, we had this feeling like there is no where to run! we are under attack!!
Either one of the rules have been broken. or the thread just doesnt belong on a Yeshiva site.
The reason I follow this blog is only because it is moderated.
I think that it is only a more recent thing. I was told that there is no real reason to this.
How does the WOW game go?
In the US, getting a licence is a breeze.
You take an easy written test, then watch a slide show at last you give a ride for the instructor which does’t last for more than a few minutes before you know it your a licensed driver!
Although I occasionally speed above the speed limit. However I never do so when I am in an area in which people (especially children) are.
This might be off the topic, however is anyone familiar with the law regarding having a RADAR DETECTOR in NY?
CRuzer,
I think that you have a strong point.
Interesting that I have not picked this up when I watched it.
Wolf,
Although i strongly disagree on some of the things you right. I commend you for coming clean.
I (and others) could not stand the posts in which you were mocking yourself, even those in which you were just trying to be funny.
Anyways, I respect you for your level head thinking (posting).
Gut Shabbos!
That is only half the work, now you have to turn your kitchen back..
I did not read all the posts, however the Reshonim discuss this. The Ramaban talks about this.
Harav Avigdor Miller A”H spoke about these issues so many times at his lectures, in fact he has designated lectures only for this topic.
Mora,
After reading your posts, my personal opinion is, that if the situation is as severe as you write it is, you should not delay reporting them to ACS.
Aurora,
What makes a neighbor a mandatory reporter?