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“My wife NEVER wears high heels. That is one of the reasons I married her!”
Charlie, I am sure that there are many other reasons and this was not the primary reason..
I just remember the first one, Don’t be a tyrant!
Flaums (but only the family pack)
you think the mods are people??
A) he never claimed to be a doctor.
B) although he tries to give the impression in his posts that he is a medical professional, for those that are here from when health started to post already know that he invested a lot of effort in building this ‘medical professional’ online persona.
So take his medical advice (as well as anyone’s around here, including mine) with a grain of salt.
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I’m going to close this thread if ALL of you don’t cut it out.
and I’m going to close the thread if you all do cut it out. -95
Whats this? politics in the mod shelter?!
IMO, the only time when females should be needed is when a women needs a 12 lead done, since her chest has to be exposed.
However, if someone is complaining of chest pain, time should not be wasted, time is muscle.
Delivering a baby with EMTs around might not be comfortable a pleasant experience. however I cannot see how having women do the delivery any better. in fact the only real thing that will calm the patient is knowing that the techs are well trained and experienced.
miritchka
“my husband is one of the few members that actually keep to the rule of not discussing anything about a call he goes on”
Actually this is what most member’s do, discussing the call can be illegal and in most organizations is enough cause to be thrown out.
Syag,
This is not common, most women have enough time to get to the hospital.
Health,
“And it seems that the EMT’s of EN have more training in Ob than regular EMT’s.”
Care to explain?
I will repeat something that I already wrote, as an active H Member, there is no tznius issue at all, the providers and the patient have other things at mind when there is true emergency.
Health, you might not have been the one that started the attacking, however you are not shy of attacking others.
In fact a large part of your arguments are usually personal attacks.
Interesting that most of your debates for some reason turn personal, for this reason I have decided not to respond to your posts, even though in this topic I am the one in the know and you are clearly not!
Please don’t get carries away with psak.
Each Hatzoloh has their board of rabonim that know the details and are involved in the day to day halachik questions that arise.
So don’t make it seem as if EN have rabonim and Hatzoloh does not, in fact karlsburger ruv is a very controversial rav.
Besides they did not approach the rabonim that run Hatzoloh, nor did they approach Hatzoloh. They only approached the media.
I don’t know why your changing facts, currently in Hatzoloh each OB call is an ALS call, in NY it’s an ALS call, if someone calls 911 medics will show up, they might not transport however they will do the delivery, currently EN only have EMTs which means their care will be on a lower level then if the PT would have called Hatzoloh or 911.
“pba- there are many situations where an all female team would be of use.”
Such as?
By the way, what makes you think that the female tech will be an all stranger? it might be the lady you will meet in the grocery or your neighbor.
Does that make you more comfortable?
What makes you think we were worrying??
OK, I got it already..
Care to explain?
Gamanit,
As someone that responds to emergencies, I can assure that you most people when having a TRUE medical emergency male or female do not care who the tech is.
Health,
You are totally wrong, OB calls used to be BLS, its changed and became an automatically ALS call, in the system and in Hatzoloh.
Any imminent OB call, will have para,edics on the scene, unless its just a fancy taxi job.
The reason behind the change if protocol is because most women (not chasidishe that always wait till its to late) that call EMS for a delivery usually have poor prenatal care, therefore the protocol demands that Paramedics be called even though its a BLS skill.
I have been reading the arguments of both sides, I really think that this should be discussed with the EMTs and Paramedics that currently do it, see what they have to say.
Again, in new square, because they must have females on the transport (per the rebbes protocol), they have a hard time finding EMTs and Paramedics for OB calls. A serious married person does not want to sit in an ambulance with females, especially if they are part of the crew.
It might solve the issue of “some” female patients being more comfortable, however it raises halachik questions
I will tell you why it will not work.
There are a lot of issues that have to be handled, which are far more serious than a male delivering a baby.
There is the issue of being in the back of the ambulance with two female responders, there are some members that do not respond to OB calls only they feel that it is not right that they should be together with Females riding home from the hospital.
After all they were through a dramatic situation, it is more than normal to discuss it and give your personal opinion on what should have done differently, etc.
Each delivery in NY gets ALS, there will always be paramedics in the back of the bus. Some medics have already sent off the females from the bus due to
Health,
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Your a bit off, in New Square, males respond, the females get picked up either with the bus or a member picks them up, they get dispatched (or paged) only AFTER there is a full regular crew.
In fact, it isn’t really working in New Square, the members admit to it. Its all because the Rebbe decided to do it.
what does this mean?
they will be a regular ambulance corp, or a rescue squad?
will they respond in their private cars using lights and sirens?
what area does this license cover?
My parents would not let me join any groups, however when I was older, they really had no way of holding me back.
Looking back, I clearly understand why they would not be thrilled with the idea of me going collecting with groups on Purim,
Basically its an unsupervised group of teenagers, drunk and hungry for fun.
Boys that never smoked had their first puff. Others were overly drunk.
Some boys were talking and acting very inappropriately.
I cannot understand how the yeshivos or organizations permit this, they have an obligation that their students (especially if they are collecting for the yeshiva) to have some sort of supervision.
For those that really care about your children, keep them at home, make it as exciting as you can.
Do you think this is Facebook?
Will you post when you eat lunch, and how your mood is?!
He deals with Shabbos issues ‘al pi halacha’
Something tells me that you are trying to point out that he does not have a problem with stores that are open on Shabboss..
Every time I fold his socks after doing his laundry I’ll be reminded of this chisaron
TROLL! TROLL! TROLL!!
purpolicious,
reading your post, is like reading a doctors medical report. x this y that. rlllly.
OK, so we have a mod (a very bold one) with smicha!
I dont know why people are making fun of this poster.
In some circles it is not acceptable for the men to be into their clothing and styles. That is why the men (usually the more yeshivishe) will all wear the same clothing.
This person that she is (supposedly) dating is wearing more of a stylish pair of socks, I can see why she is bothered by this, after all this is the choice of her lifetime. (unless this is a troll..)
He He,
Never knew Mods are allowed to have a sense of humor!
btw, I hope you blocked that posters account.
he he, I made it “inactive” so he can still come see what I responded. He he
neenee,
Good advice, however this does not mean that it is mandatory.
Just a small reminder, don’t reveal you age on any online forum.
Your user name sounds like your name, we know your age, we know that you will be the kohen of a Daniel yehudah that was recently born. And that you are the uncle of this baby.
Sorry about changing the subject, just a friendly reminder!
Mods, wasn’t there a very recent thread about this topic ?
I understand that it might be hard for the girl. And I would feel very sorry for her.
However if is hereditary, then yes, she would somewhat lose her value to those that want to marry and have children.