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What Tznius issues? there is very little for EMS personal to do in the prehospital setting for gynecological emergencies other than take the patient quickly to the hospital, try to help the patient maintain decent vitals by administering advanced life support interventions. and most importantly if necessary having the hospital and the operating room on standby should there be a need for that, to save the patients life.
If that poses a Tznius issue, please point it out.
One would think that having a service that mainly responds to women related emergencies, with hard to miss stickering on their cars and vans parked in front of someones house, is a much greater Tznius issue.
Winnie, you mean areas that neglect health in general, which is not the frum community.
You obviously are not involved in the health care, the frum community in general is very aggressive and demanding when it comes to health care. You probably referring to some of the other communities that I am familiar with. that use the hospital as their primary health care providers.
Being cold is not a criteria for not doing CPR, I cannot post links but you can do a quick google, especially not under the New York State BLS protocols under which EN operate.
The other signs of certain death, take time to set in.
The saying goes, your not dead, until your warm and dead.
In fact, hospitals that were doing the hypothermia protocol for patients in cardiac arrest, had to work up the patient until they were warm, which would take a long time and made the staff go through many code carts.
Seems like the OP just copy/pasted one of the messages that were circulating on social media and chat groups, I do not think that the OP actually asked the CR any of those questions.
While I agree that some questions are not on target, there are many issues and unanswered questions.
For one, why do they call 911? weren’t they boasting in news articles and interviews about one year ago about their affiliation with East Midwood ambulance? what happened with the senior care relationship? do they call 911 instead of the patient or their family members??
If their only resource for transporting acutely ill patients and getting advanced life support to the patients location from FDNY (911), why don’t they explain this very important fact on their website, so that in case of a real emergency one should call 911 first and only if anyone wants their service, which seems like a bridge until EMS arrives, to contact EN. Otherwise precious time is wasted when the EN dispatcher has to collect vital information then pass it one as a 3rd party to the 911 call center.
To the poster that said that ten minutes is not a long time.
The fact that outside of the city it takes 30 minutes for EMS to arrive, does not mean that this patient needs to get this substandard ETA.
It takes much less than ten minutes for a patient that went into cardiac arrest to be beyond the point of resuscitation. even two minutes is to long.
Hatzalah is known for its very short response time, this was clearly a nature in which not only minutes can change the outcome of this patient its the seconds that matter.
Todays standard of care is to have pit crew non-stop CPR, you need a full crew and you need it early for successful resuscitation.
Yes, people die even with short response times, long response times just makes sure they do not even have a chance. This is one of the perils people living outside of larger cities have to deal with.
Unfortunately the story is very true. not because of the many photos of the scene that clearly show the EN van, but because of the many members that were on this call.
EN clearly cannot be held liable from a legal standpoint, they have a protocol and they followed it. its not their fault that the patients family member did not call Hatzalah. But there are major issues with their behavior last night.
They put their protocol or agenda before patient care. its an undisputed fact that Hatzalah had resources that are adequately equipped and experienced just down the block from this address and can be at the patients side within one or two minutes. yet they clearly ignored this very important fact which possibly resulted in the negative outcome.
Is their agenda against Hatzalah that big that they place it before a human life??
Second, from what the people on scene are saying, the two EN responders were not administering CPR they were just standing there shocked not knowing what to do. all of this when there were EMTs and Paramedics within very close proximity.
If not for EN, the family would have clearly called Hatzalah, in fact I doubt that any person would care which service responds for their loved one when they are in cardiac arrest, they would clearly chose the one that is not only closer and faster, but much more trained and heavily equipped to deal with critical patients and deal with these types of emergencies on a regular basis. No doubt that the caller clearly made a mistake. EN dispatcher and responders clearly knew that they were called in error as they are never called for a nature of such, yet they still followed protocol.
So all of this is for the tiny number of 100 or so people that want to enter the USA?
All of this for extra few hours of detaining and questioning these few people with possible ties to terrorism or actually being terrorists?
All of this for people that come from countries that would murder you and myself just for who we are?
So what gets done? protests that gets thousands of people delayed for hours..
Does moving the embassy really help Israel?
I believe that Trump is making this into a bargaining chip. So now he can sit down with the Palestinians and have them settle down if they want the embassy to remain where it now is.
I have not read many articles on this however, from what I understand, here are the facts.
These countries have been marked by Obama and Congress as the seven countries that harbor terrorists.
They can still come in to our country, only will be taken aside for further questioning and comprehensive screening.
They will be moved through the process as quick as possible, either to be released or to sent back.
109 people from these countries were taken aside, most of them were processed through the system already.
Not sure how accurate all of this is, however supposedly this is the plan.
By the way, I am sure that Israel probably has much more comprehensive screening and questioning for people coming in from these countries. Even I was taken aside and asked which shabboss my Bar Mitzva was, and in which hall it was.. and i was coming from the USA.
Did not read the article, however, prior to the orthodox expansion, no one walked on the streets at night, especially in spring valley.
Now Ramapo PD mainly deals with medical emergencies, traffic issues and other minor stuff, it is very safe to walk in most areas any time of the day or night. this is a huge difference of how it was just a couple of years ago.
YWN has a good clip of this in their news section, how Joel P bites into the CNN reporter and others about this.
facts are, cop is jewish. the fine was a slap on the wrist for what they did.
Some are still here yet are readers not posters.
Is it a crime to delete emails (33,000 of them) after getting a subpoena?
Wow, no response and its already been over 6 hours..
Health,
That’s not a source, it’s not even a complete sentence!
You can just copy paste a few words without the context, this does not warrant a response. You fail to respond with any logic or sources to your claims, you put in so much time and effort in your foolish posts, yet whenever asked for a follow up logic to back your claims, your response is that you will do it for money.. Not even funny anymore.
Should I take the time and effort to respond to your copy/paste??
would it satisfy you if I can kneel down to your level and explain it to you while providing real literature, not just copy paste tidbits of information from a website?
health, you make me laugh!
All the name callings can easily be redirected at you, in fact you prove to be the uneducated and childish silly posts.
As proven numerous times, you would be paid NOT to teach or share your thoughts.
That’s subjective.
Being sad is OK, just do not keep inside yourself, find people that are willing to listen to you, not sure the advice was given above that you should distract yourself is a good thing, maybe in the long run but running away from the fact will hurt more in the long run.
Deal with the unfortunate situation, and I hope that you believe that Hashem has had this all planned out and in the bigger picture this is for your and your siblings good.
Health, you really need help.
Putting the rules aside for a moment, most or some of us were already in the position be being in the know of something that went public, yet the intimate details were not known to the public.
With just two seconds of thinking, (if that at all..) posters submit their opinions, which at times can be very hurtful and non-deserving to the people involved.
Thank you mods for editing and closing threads according to what they see as appropriate.
Hey, I am not interested in going back, but to be honest, I was asked for sources, I responded with the sources, the response to that was personal something about having gone down and spoken to JP while he was incarcerated making me feel like it wasn’t due to the lack of sources (didn’t know that posters are required to have sources for what they write here..) only because of personal beliefs.
Either case, I prefer not to go back, I moved on.
There is nothing wrong with quoting a source, you can even post the exact wording as long as you reveal the source (unlike what you have done in the past), your sources are simple google searches and your understanding of most stuff are on a very basic level.
Real people with real lives and real degrees don’t behave the way you do, if they decide to participate in a discussion or debate, they understand that they are just another participant there will always be an opposing opinion or study to almost everything, the fact that you googled it or saw something on webMD doesn’t mean this is the bottom line.
I don’t think I have ever read anything that you explained with decent logic and proper references, only some copy/pastes, no one here is asking YOU for advice more than they are asking anyone else, its you in your own bubble that created this online persona so now you must prove it all the time, oh.. It’s about helping people and your free advice.. Really!? So why do you get all worked up and make sure to have the final word using childish and silly arguments? It’s just the doctor in his spare time offering bro Bono advice.
There is nothing wrong with quoting a source, you can even post the exact wording as long as you reveal the source (unlike what you have done in the past), your sources are simple google searches and your understanding of most stuff are on a very basic level.
Real people with real lives and real degrees don’t behave the way you do, if they decide to participate in a discussion or debate, they understand that they are just another participant there will always be an opposing opinion or study to almost everything, the fact that you googled it or saw something on webMD doesn’t mean this is the bottom line.
I don’t think I have ever read anything that you explained with decent logic and proper references, only some copy/pastes, no one here is asking YOU for advice more than they are asking anyone else, its you in your own bubble that created this online persona so now you must prove it all the time, oh.. It’s about helping people and your free advice.. Really!? So why do you get all worked up and make sure to have the final word using childish and silly arguments? It’s just the doctor in his spare time offering bro Bono advice.
I do not remember the exact comment, however it was regarding J Pollard, I raised a question and received a direct response from a mod. The mod refused to publish my post, yet went out of his/her way to communicate via email.
I do not remember the exact content of the question or comment (can probably check my email history, yet not that important..) yet there was nothing in it that would be deemed inappropriate, which at the time gave me bad feelings about this forum.
Took a while for me to start reading these forums again..
Health, who cares what I am or if I even have any association with the medical community. This was never about me, I never claimed to be anything or practice medicine nor did I make any claim to have any training.
Yet you have built this online persona of being someone that actively practices medicine and to know it all, its more then right to respectfully ask you if your a doctor, PA, NP, RT or none of the above..
And you do make me laugh with your excuse for copy pasting from the internet..
Sparkly, very true what you wrote. However Health has frequently posted medical advice and keeps on describing himself as someone that actively practices medicine.
I am here for a while, I still remember when he was constantly caught pasting things from Google.. Not understanding basic medical stuff and getting all worked up when being called out, similar to what he just did when all I did was ask what degree is has earned.
He has no problem describing his personal life such as where he lives or about being a divorcee. Nor about once being a volunteer EMT or attending Turo. Yet when asked about his level of certification to back the online profile he has created, he goes on the offensive.
I once posted something instead of approving it the moderator began arguing with me via email, I asked him/her to edit it and approve It, yet it was never posted.
Now I’m curious. It doesn’t sound like me but I’ll have to look for it…
Health, I don’t recklessly post medical advice online while claiming to have some degree, you on the other hand frequently provide advice and keep on mentioning that you have earned a degree and practice medicine.
Instead of answering, you just turn on those that respectfully question you, which leaves us with greater questions on your integrity.
Who cares if I am an er tech or an anesthesiologist. Or a plumber that plays Doctor online, I’m not stepping on anyone nor providing any medical advice.
I still believe that you did attempt a PA program..
Sparkly, health is very vocal about everything other then revealing his medical degree which he claims to have.
Following this forum for a while, I would assume that he is at most a PA or at least Participated in a PA program..
Based on photos of the incident, there are A LOT of street lights at the site of the accident
Also, there are sidewalks on both sides of the road yet there are no crosswalks in that area.
Now I am curious to know what Sam2 wrote..
Its silly to think that she will ever be impeached for this, yet it just shows all that she is above the law and no one will do anything to her even if they themselves explain that what she did was wrong.
Charlie,
the outcome does not make it right, the fact that there were no leaks (that we are currently aware of) does not mean that this is a nonissue.
even the in his statement, the FBI director had a lot of negative things to say about what Hillary did, so much that it is left to wonder why she is not prosecuted.
No one has ever used the small C as an excuse of not realizing that this is not confidential, what Hillary repeatedly said was that what she did was legal and there were no emails that were marked confidential at the time.
despite it only being a small number of emails, each of these emails have email chains and we now know that what she did was careless and against the rules.
Rebyid, Google has other definitions for the word attractive, but I believe the more accurate description
Would be provocative.
No one is saying women should dress ugly, only normal. Of course everyone’s normal is different, but provocative looking sheitls are a problem.
non attractive does not mean ugly. there is an in between something that does not attract yet is nice and decent.
Disagree, political correct means hurting someone while wearing white gloves.
In fact, Hillary has been corrupt there is no one that is denying it. she lied about the emails as has been pointed out by the FBI that stated that there were emails marked classified at the time.
The current email scandal that shows how the DNC was working against Bernie, it’s without any doubt that they were not doing this on their own, no one is denying any of this.
To a lot of people, when putting Hillary side by side with Trump she is viewed as the dishonest and crooked person and trump the non-politically correct and straightforward get-it-done kind of person.
It seems like you are clinging to some comments of his comments yet not to his policies. True, he might not be politically correct and might not be polite at times.
But at least he has some things right, we sold out our country to China, not too long ago there were huge plants manufacturing goods here in the USA, actually here in the tri-state, we essentially made it easy and cheaper to import and harder if not impossible to manufacture.
we became a country of services instead of manufacturing. this makes no sense at all and catastrophic to many people.
I do understand that it’s not just the democrats that are to blame for this, Bush had a big hand in this, however, this is a huge issue and he is willing to deal with it.
So what if Hillary is more politically correct and watches what she says.
No one publicly disputed the photo, only attacked trump about it, as I noted they ran right into his trap.
Not sure why you are changing the discussion about comments he made. But btw I think he has a point, a hero is not someone that was captured.. It’s someone that has done something heroic.
Same with Hillary, you truly believes she stands for the things she says??
Standard politics.
Actually, I think he made a great point and he is great at laying traps like these for the media.
Trump says something in a tone that might sound like he is suggesting more then he is actually saying, some jump on this and call him out on it, he then uses this opportunity to undermine those that are calling him out.
He nicely explained that it’s not him that suggested that Cruz’s dad assassinated JFK, only that there is a photo of him having breakfast with JFks assassin.
He then asks, why can’t we talk about this? is the photo not of Cruz’s dad?
Why would anyone think that it is not appropriate to discuss these people, they went on to the show knowingly that this will be a TV show, they for sure knew that they even might be portrayed as fools, the producers can decide whatever they want.
truth to be said, its a reality show they show only what they want to show, they edit it which ever way they want.
its all about what makes good TV
what in the world were they thinking, they will get through with some beat boxing??
he finally realized that attention, any attention is good even if it is negative.
Papa requested it.