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Sushe,
You need a B”D to certify that everything was done correctly in order for her to be able to remarry
“She did ask them. She asked them to divorce her from her husband.”
No. She asked them to facilitate the writing of a Get and that only because they are the only ones who can possibly do this. The only place you can receive a Get is in B”D.
Batei Din will even say that if she somehow gets the goyishe courts to force the husband to give a Get that the Get is no good and no one can marry the women. So it isn’t true that she has an option to go somewhere else for a Get.
Health,
you said,
“B’D doesn’t force anybody to come to them. They come on their own free will!”
Right. They just say “If you ever want to be able to marry anyone else and have children that aren’t Mamzerim you have to arbitrate everything with us”.
you said,
“That’s your mistake. These aren’t separate services. They are all part & parcel of the divorce.”
You yourself admitted that if the B”D wants they could choose not to Arbitrate custody and assets, so of course they are separate services.
O.K.
Please explain why my Moshol is not comparable. I think it’s the same exact thing.
Again,
If someone is coming to the B”D to pay for a service they offer-namely supervising the writing of a Get, Using the fact that they happen to need this service is not an excuse for it’s provider to insist that the people who NEED it (it is not a luxury) need to buy more services from the B”D. Namely the Arbitration of custody and Assets, in order to receive the necessary service of receiving a Get.
Health,
You said,
“It might be reasonable to want this, but it’s not upto the individual’s choice. It’s upto the BD to decide if they will allow such a route.”
Of course it’s up too the individual were they should Arbitrate Custody and Assets! Why should it be up too the B”D if she didn’t ask them?
You said,
“Here is a sentence using the word “force”:
You can’t force the BD to issue a Get on her terms only. They have the right to determine the terms in which she can get a “GET”! “
She is coming to the B”D to pay for a service they offer-namely supervising the writing of a Get. Using the fact that she happens to need this service is not an excuse for her to be forced to buy more services from the B”D namely the Arbitration of custody and Assets, in order to receive the necessary (for her) service of receiving a Get.
Health you said,
“Stop using the word force. If she Wants a Get -notice the word Want, then they have the right to give the Get acc. to their terms. If she has no interest in a Get -she definitely can go to secular court for any custody, financial issues that occur during a divorce. She isn’t forced to do anything!”
That’s like putting a gun to someone’s head and saying: “If you want to live-notice I say the word want you should give me all of your money”, then claiming that you didn’t force the person to give you his money. I mean after all he could have chosen to die-right?
Health,
Let’s say someone has the only Mikvah on earth and he said he would not let any women use it unless they pay him an entrance fee to cover his costs AND they invest all of their money in his other businesses.
Would that be morally acceptable to you?
Would you expect a decent human being to act that way?
Would you consider him to be forcing the Jewish people to invest their money with him?
If no, how is this different?
Health,
You said,
“It might be reasonable to want this, but it’s not upto the individual’s choice. It’s upto the BD to decide if they will allow such a route.”
Of course it’s up too the individual were they should Arbitrate Custody and Assets! Why should it be up too the B”D if she didn’t ask them?
You said,
“Here is a sentence using the word “force”:
You can’t force the BD to issue a Get on her terms only. They have the right to determine the terms in which she can get a “GET”! “
She is coming to the B”D to pay for a service they offer-namely supervising the writing of a Get. Using the fact that she happens to need this service is not an excuse for her to be forced to buy more services from the B”D namely the Arbitration of custody and Assets, in order to receive the necessary (for her) service of receiving a Get.
Health,
To arbitrate something like custody Children it is very reasonable to only wish to do so in a system that has some sort of oversight and recourse if someone believes they are the victim of judicial misconduct. Not so with the writing of a get.
As far as forcing a women to arbitrate in a B”D if the only way she can receive a get is by arbitrating everything in a B”D if that is what the B”D wants – and they just about always do the women is in effect forced to arbitrate everything in B”D wether she wishes to or not
Cheftza,
One more point.
If B”D was a free service offered to the members of the frum community then although I would still feel it is the obligation of a B”D to facilitate a women receiving a Get regardless were she decides to arbitrate custody etc.
I could at least hear a little (as unjust, unprofessional and wrong as I would still believe it would be) a B”D refusing to facilitate a Get unless the women is part of the community they offer this free service too. However B”D charges for every hour the Dayanim sit on a case, they charge for every Hazmana, they charge an Arm and a Leg for everything they can possibly charge for, so this whole “refusing to service” thing is silly.
Think first,
You said,
“646– you mentioned a “prominent Rov” well in the Organization where he is the Spiritual leader having forums about gays and lesbians is ok, that which our Torah calls an abomination becomes a discusion, well not prominent to me. Sorry.”
I will not debate the greatness of someone like the Rav I quoted above. I will say however that whatever you may think of him he knows the system is a leader in it and knows what he is talking about to say the very least.
Cheftza You said,
“000646, If she is discarding halacha and is using secular courts in non-accordance with halacha to, say, deny her husband visitation to his children, then the B”D has the right to withhold her get until she stops using the secular courts to go end-run halacha and the rulings of the Jewish Court.”
Who said anything about denying visitation? If the guy is not abusive Secular courts will always give him visitation rights!
You said,
“If she end-runs the Jewish Court, she has no leg or basis to stand on to insist the beis din facilitate a get for her — which is probably to only effective levarage the B”D has to get her to comply with halacha (which in the example she is denying child visitation to her husband by using th goyish courts).”
Using a Get for leverage is wrong. Threatening to use your influence as a Rov to harm somebody’s children as leverage is wrong. I do not understand what part of this you do not understand.
If you could show a real recourse somebody has if they suspect Judicial misconduct AND you could show me how the B”D system provides oversight to make sure that no corruption happens and stop it when it does; I could maybe hear you when you say someone is being unreasonable by not wanting to Arbitrate custody and or assets in a B”D.
However there is no oversight, no recourse for someone who is the victim of Judicial misconduct, it is “against halacha” to even report a Dayan to secular court for Judicial misconduct. So I kind of hear why somebody would say they do not wish to Arbitrate custody of their children in such a system.
You said,
“Once she gets her get she can, and by her actions has made clear she will, spit in B”D and halacha’s face regarding her halachic obligations, after she got her halachic needs (i.e. a get) facilitated by the Jewish Court.”
Yup. It’s called Galus… It kind of stinks. It doesn’t give people the right to use whatever they can get their hands on as “leverage” in order to blackmail people to comply with you. Certain things are wrong and that is that.
Cheftza,
What your story indicates to me is that there is oversight in secular courts and corrupt judges get busted. We all agree that there are corrupt batei din when was the last time you heard of a corrupt Dayan going to prison?
Also would you mind telling me what recourse one has if they suspect judicial misconduct by the Dayanim on a B”D?
Cheftza,
The Jewish courts are paid handsomely for their time no one is asking for any services
Furthermore Rav Hershel shachter was talking practically. he was asked why he didn’t form an oversight committee for batei din he answered because the people on the committee will get killed
Health,
Removing barriers to the women getting remarried namely giving her a get will have no bearing on the allocation of assets or custody. The women can still be sued in BD or secular court if she has received a get, a get would not even dissolve the civil marriage.
Also in my limited life experience straight people tend not to be dangerous to try and oversee. It’s usally people who you would want to shower after talking too that people are afraid for their lives to try and oversee
naisberg,
The comment I qouted was not to back up my assertion about hurting children I (and the poster “The little I know”) Have seen this firsthand. Threatning to throw someones children out of school is threatning to harm somebody’s children.
You are right though the qoute talks about how it would be too dangereous to appoint an oversight comittee for bate Din because the dayanim would kill them-
It’s right up there although I do think I should have been clearer that qoute says enough about the system that my first hand knowledge of dayanim threatning to harm children is unneccesary in any case
Cheftaz you said,
“Since if she refuses to use beis din when she is halachicly required to for money and custody issues, beis din in turn will not be at her service in getting a “get” for her.”
You make it sound like B”D is some sort of free service offered to people in the community. B”D charges a nice amount of money (on par with what most Lawers charge) by the hour, for evrey document they write and evrey action they take. That is without a Toen a Toen will cost usally an additional 250-300 an hour.
So one is asking for any services, if I made 250 an hour I would be very happy
The little I know,
Look B”D is a great concept. I am all for it.
But if there is no oversight or place to appeal too it is impossible for the system to stay straight. Absoloute power corrupts absoloutly!
If individual dayanim can threaten people who agreed to Arbitrate with them and there is no one to turn to to have them “Disbarred” that makes a B”D a very dangerous place to Arbitrate anything.
“You are not addressing individuals, but an entire system”
How can you ask people to Arbitrate anything let alone things having to do with children in a system with no oversight and no place to turn if the Dayanim are corrupt??
Cheftza,
Also would you mind substantiating your claim that “Whatever problems may exist in beis din, they are thousands of times worse in secular court”?
Again I qouted an Orthodox jewish leader above who clearly says that it would be physically dangerous to try to oppoint an oversight commitee. Are people who a prominent orthodox leader is afraid would kill an oversight commitee the kind of people you want arbitrating anything (forget something involving children like custody?)
He also said about dayanim,
“Many are acting like toanim; many of the toanim are acting like criminals. They make up their minds in advance that their side has to win.”
Again this is a PROMINENT ROV who said this!
Cheftza
You said,
“As they very well should. Opposing a psak in secular court (or choosing a secular court to arbitrate as opposed to beis din) is strictly against Jewish Law, as you very well know (assuming you are an Orthodox Jew). As such, a beis din is completely within its right, legally and morally and ethically, to use communal pressure to encourage someone to adhere to halacha. (And applying such pressure is completely within the secular law of the land.)”
Again I will repeat what I said above. If you do not see the Moral and Ethical problems with threatning to harm somebodys innocent children in order to get them to do something, I have nothing to say to you.
The little I know,
I tried editing my response to you. The mods didnt let my last one up.
Cheftza,
You said:”
American courts are as corrupt as they get. Whatever problems may exist in beis din, they are thousands of times worse in secular court.”
Some may be corrupt and if you beleive that is the case you can appeal to a higer court, and if the Judge was corrupt he will go to prison. It’s called oversight. It dosnt exsist in the B”D system.
You said,
“Furthermore, if the wife tries to discard the Torah and halacha in using arkaos (secular court) against halacha to seek more favorable treatment in custody and asset distribution issues, the beis din would be correct to advise her to also try to get her “get” issued by a secular court. Since if she refuses to use beis din when she is halachicly required to for money and custody issues, beis din in turn will not be at her service in getting a “get” for her. She shouldn’t think that when it suits her needs she can choose to demand beis din help her get a halachic get, when at the same time she refuses follow halacha in other areas beis din has halachic jurisdiction. “
The guy has to give her a Get. End of story. If they wish to issue a hazmana to her after to ask her to submit for a ruling on custody and or assets. Or tell her she is forbidden Al Pi halacha to try in Arkaos let them do that.
Batei Din are also known (I know of one case first hand) to threaten people that there kids will be taken out of school if someone refuses to Arbitrate in a B”D or opposes a Psak in secualr Court
You said,
“000646 -You should know I wrote a response to every single one of your so-called points, but it was deleted.
Not one of your posts has any logic in them, let alone it shows your adversary to the Torah system with the use of Bais Din to give judgements.”
What a response! if you actually wrote what you say you wrote (although this message board is not known for deleting comments defending the frum community)
I hope they approve it soon.
In any case here are some qoutes about the current state of B”D system by no less the Rav Hershel Shachter:
“Do you think that all of the dayanim are honest? Many are acting like toanim; many of the toanim are acting like criminals. They make up their minds in advance that their side has to win.”
In response to the question could there be a watchdog group, with rabbanim getting together to examine how the batei din are behaving?
[possible danger]
[summons]. They misuse the seruv. They vilify him, and if there would be a seruv against him, he would lose his job. He is a rabbi.”You see that is what a prominent ORTHODOX RAV is willing to say ON THE RECORD. Feel free to google the qoutes if you think I am twisting the context of anything.
The reality is a good deal worse then Rav Shechter said publicly-he was being kind.
Forgive me if I do not trust B”D to arbitrate something as important as custody of children.
Forgive me if i think people should be warned not to sign an Arbitration agreement with people who’s OWN leaders say are chashud on Shfichas Damim
Also wether or not she receives a get does not need to have any bearing on ending the civil marriage and determining custody. In a civil court the women can divorce the man as well this would even the playing field
The little I know,
Ok so let’s say a women says she wants a get but wants to Determine custody in secular court. What would happen? Would the B”D say fine and tell the husband to give a Get? Or would they compell her under the threat of not receiving a get to Arbitrate with a BD?
If someone receives a Hazmana and tells the B”D they do not want to Arbitrate in a B”D would they not be threatened with a Seruv etc.
Using the fact that someone is entrenched in a community you are part of to coerce them to work with an Arbitration system they have no interest in using is an abuse of power and force.
Furthermore you have not addressed how it is made sure that the husband does not compell his wife under threat of never receiving a get to Arbitrate in a B”D of his choice without giving her a say.
Naisberg,
You said,
“And Al Pi Halacha, using secular court is an issur gamur normally. They MUST, al pi halacha, arbitrate their dispute in A B”D, whichever one it is. Secular court is NOT an option for a Jew.”
Thank you for telling us your beliefs on this matter.
I would hope even you would understand that forcing your belief on someone under threat of making it impossible for them to marry ever again is wrong.
Furthermore I am sure you understand that in such a system the women has no say in which B”D custody is arbitrated in, being that the Husband is the only one that could give the Get.
Even according to you I would think it should be understood that forcing people to sign legal documents is wrong, especially without explaining what the ramifications of signing the document are.
nishtdayngesheft
You said,
“000646,
She claimed that women do not do those things. You changed to teenage girls. You have thus proven two people are liars. Her and you. ”
How Lomdish, your parents must be so proud! This comment is so disingenous that it speaks for itself!
Medium size Shadchan,
You said,
“More importantly, in summary, does she bring honor upon our religion and those who observe it, or shame?
Is our religion and those who observe it, more worthy of honor or shame?”
No religion or way of life is in of itself worthy of shame. People get that.
People also get that just because a way of life didn’t work for someone and they wrote memoir portraying it in a negative way that it doesn’t mean it dosn’t work for anyone.
When you can’t even admit to the practices your community does and stand by them (as opposed to calling someone who publicly states them a Liar). That is were the real disgrace is.
“you don’t think that whatever a Bais Din does has any validity”
I guess you think that any time 3 Rabbis who call themselves dayanim say anything to anyone everybody is required to listen.
In order for a B”D to have any authority AL PI HALACHA (forget secular laws) The parties have to both willingly agree to submit to the B”D. The B”D will even make the parties do a Kinyan to pass the authority to them. Without this even Al Pi Halacha the B”D has NO authority whatsoever.
Health you said,
“Well if she truly is in violation, then there is a reason why she should be punished. Do you think this doesn’t happen in secular courts?”
You missed the point!!! If the women did not want to Arbitrate with the B”D what they think she should do is irrelevant! If a random arbitrator “Paskened” that you have to give your spouse custody of your children without you submitting a legal document authorizing them to arbitrate, do you think it would be binding?!
You said,
“This might come as a shock to you, but most secular courts in this country, except for of course -NY & NJ courts, will enforce a religious agreement clause.”
The only reason Secular courts will enforce a B”D ruling is because the parties in the dispute signed a “Shtar Berurin” (which is a legal document called “an agreement to submit to binding arbitration”)
Of course the B”D leaves out the fact the the women these cases are FORCED to sign the document.
You said,
“Stop being such an antisemitie because of your bad childhood”
Were did that come from?
Naisberg,
You said,
“Additionally, she is getting divorced not because of her false claims of abuse that she publicly and falsely advanced in order to win sympathy (does anyone have even a shred of evidence of that, other than this evil woman’s claims?), but rather because she engaged in adultery, immorality, public immodesty, and violating every tenet of our faith.”
I have no idea if her claims of abuse are true or not and have no reason to believe either way.
Why she wants a divorce is irrelevant.
I don’t care if it’s simply because she decided she and her husband have “irreconcilable differences” and therefore wants out.
What is sickening is using a Get to force someone to Arbitrate custody in a B”D, (especially when the state of the B”D system is what everyone knows it is).
What is sickening is telling a mother she must remain frum in order to have any custody of her children.
What is sickening is not clearly explaining that signing a Shtar berurin gives the B”D the legal authority to do whatever they want with your children.
There are so many problems here that anyone with a moral compass should see instinctively that I am not even sure how to argue it. (If someone would ask me what is morally wrong with threatening to harm somebody’s children if they do not listen to you, I would say the same thing- it’s just WRONG!)
Gosh-Were did our community lose the sense of morality that makes us human??
Naisberg,
You said:
“For good reason. She is in fact in violation of maintaining a Torah lifestyle, as clearly evidenced by the photos she publicly posed for and supplied the media.
Furthermore, every divorcing couple SHOULD be arbitrating their divorce in Beis Din as halacha demands them to.”
Your opinions as to were somebody should Arbitrate custody of their children is completely irrelevant to anyone but you.
Do you really not understand the moral problems with forcing a women to Arbitrate in a place she does not want to Arbitrate, or not making sure she understands the ramifications of signing a “Shtar Berurin” about something as important and real as cutody of her Children?
Do you honestly do not understand the moral issue with taking away a mother’s rights to see her children because you do not agree with her lifestyle?
If you cannot see the moral issues here I have nothing to say to you.
Health,
The case has already been settled in a B”D. So the courts will usually defer to an Arbitrated agreement
(a psak B”D has this legal status because they coerce the women to sign an Arbitration agreement under the threat that she can never receive a Get if she does not sign. They also call it a “shtar berurin” and do not explain the legal ramifications of signing it)
The B”D ruled that the couple should share custody by alternating weekends and some weekdays. A special clause stipulated that Ms. Reich must raise the children religiously and that a beth-din-appointed therapist shall evaluate her periodically to ensure conformity with this clause.
What the husband is trying to do is find her in violation of the religious clause and and take away the days she currently has with her children.
Health,
The case has already been settled in a B”D. So the courts will usually defer to an Arbitrated agreement
(a psak B”D has this legal status because they coerce the women to sign an Arbitration agreement under the threat that she can never receive a Get if she does not sign. They also call it a “shtar berurin” and do not explain the legal ramifications of signing it)
The B”D ruled that the couple should share custody by alternating weekends and some weekdays. A special clause stipulated that Ms. Reich must raise the children religiously and that a beth-din-appointed therapist shall evaluate her periodically to ensure conformity with this clause.
What the husband is trying to do is find her in violation of the religious clause and and take away the days she currently has with her children.
Ok maybe I missed something. To be clear you admit that,
1.)Single teenage chasidishe girls are told not to wear makeup”
2.)That satamr teenage girls are told not eat out
3.)Teenage satmar girls are told not to be out at night after a certain time.
4.) That she doesn’t falsely say a murder happened in KJ when in fact it didn’t
5.) You are claiming nobody has denied the 4 points I made above (by calling my quotes “straw men”) (?!)
I am confused. WHAT did she lie about according to you?????
nishtdayngesheft,
What I have seen, is people saying:
1.) “Its a lie that single teenage chasidishe girls are told not to wear makeup”
When I know due to the fact that I grew up in a yeshivishe community that this is what is done and that girl’s highschools have rules against it.
2.)”Its a lie that satamr teenage girls are told not eat out”
When I know that it is told very strongly to teenage girls (and boys for that matter) that it doesn’t pas for them to do so
3.)”Its a lie that teenage satmar girls are told not to be out at night after a certain time.”
When I know for a fact that there is a takana in Satmar to that affect and that Beis Ruchel Dsatmar has such a rule
4.) “She claimed a murder happend in Kj when it didn’t”
Having read her book I know she makes no such claim
You see; you have to forgive me but so far the only people I have caught lying are the people calling HER a liar!
Gavra,
You said,
“One Caveat: The antics needed to get your child into a school is reason enough for someone to want to go OTD (I don’t know if that is Al Pi Halacha or not).”
It is Al Pi Halacha. Schools are mechuyiv to make sure that the precious neshamalach in their care are protected from bad influences. Of course your arn’t supposed to say that Publicly. Actually in public you are supposed to print classified ads in the Yated sating that your school dosn’t discriminate in order to receive Government funds. (you can see those ads evrey week in the yated).
And if a B”D or Rav paskens that the children are a negative influence because the parents didn’t listen to something they said then they are a bad influence and the schools should not and cannot accept them.
There is a slight issue that using the threat of harming the wellfare of little kids in order to blackmail their parents into going along with what you think they should do seems morally repungnant to some…But hey that’s why you gotta keep quiet about it in public!!
“Why are you so desparate to prove the book is true?”
I am just asking you to prove it isn’t!
“Now I understand your hatred towards Frum people -a lot of kids growing up here become very disillusioned. This has to do with the way this town is run.”
Dont besmirch Lakewood! It is for the most part run according to the ideals of Halacha and frum Yiddiskeit.
“Please tell me what occurred to you here in this town as a kid, that made you become bias against Orthodox Judaism?”
Rest assured the things I have seen people whose names you would recognize do would make any human being with a shread of human decency vomit.
Apprently though this is not the case for the people you seem to hold so highly of. They Know what goes on (if they are not doing it themselves) I have told them myself and they aknowledge it.
They refuse to take a stand. Please do not tell me they do not like to make public statements, because I could hear that. But you see; they have no problem Shreiing about Tznius or threatning to throw kids out of school if their parents have internet. They have no problem making public statements about anything, they even talk about same gender marriage publicly!!!!
“But you can’t possibly see the truth, can you?”
Oh I have seen the truth WAY too clearly. It is so disgusting that it gives me nightmares
And in the same vein if you cannot understand the moral problems with forcing a women to Arbitrate in a place she does not want to Arbitrate, or not making sure she understands the ramifications of signing a “Shtar Berurin” about something as important and real as cutody of her Children. I have nothing to say to you either.
Health,
They are fighting for JOINT CUSTODY the father dosnt want the mother to have any custody. The mother is not asking for exclusive custody.
If you really do not insitinctevly see the moral issue with taking away a mother’s rights to see her children because you do not agree with her lifestyle there is really nothing I could say to you.
Here is a Hypothetical story that very well may happen:
In the year 2025 a young woman or man will write a memoir about how he was prevented from assciating with his mother becasue she did not wish to remain religious. The memoir will mention how the child’s mother was forced to Arbitrate custody in a Rabbincal court-even though she did not wish to under threat of never receiving a Get.
There will be newspaper articles about it. The young Author will make their rounds on T.V shows and the world will all ridicule the Frum Community.
Evreyone will call the author a Lier and a fraud on frum message boards while admitting on those same public forums they never read their book and make themselves and their community look even stupider.
Evreyone will be asking how did this happen? Were did we go wrong? Why are our children dissillusioned with our way of life?
Why o why do they not want to follow the rabbonim and trust the frum leadership any longer?
Hmm I wonder why
Health,
I tried posting a reply before but the mods didnt let it. I will try once more.
Re: the makeup thing,
I grew up in Lakewood and I know that evrey yeshivish Highschool has a rule against teenage girls wearing makeup. I cannot imagine that Satmar Chasidim are less makpid on this.
You said:
“Actually I don’t assume anything in life. I look at things as much as humanly possible in an objective way.
It’s obvious you can’t!”
Then you said:
“I never said “I know” (646-that the book is full of falsehoods). Don’t put words in my mouth! I’ll repeat what I posted -“If I’d want to waste my time and read her trash -I’m sure I’d find many falsehoods!”
Do you not see how little sense you make, and how you contradict yourself??
Smart Gal You Said:
“sounds like this pearlperry woman is trying to get media attention bec shes losing the custody battle for her kids in court. Apparently , she was found to be unstable (bipolar mayb?) to get custody..”
This is not true. The reason she may lose in secular court is because she agreed (under threat of not receiving a Get) to Arbitrate custody in a B”D. Once you sign an arbitration agreement the secular courts will generally uphold anything the “Arbitrator” (in this case B”D awards. The B”D awarded her custody ONLY if she stays within certain guidelines of frumkeit.
And that’s were the problem is. If she had not signed an Arbitration agreement there would be no question that she would get custody.
Kolel Wife,
Most satmar and even yesivish people have a problem with their teenage single daughters wearing makeup. In fact just about evrey girls highschool in lakewood has a rule against it.
You said:
“I actually doesn’t matter what it’s lies or not. What someone said earlier, maybe Poppa – All our Orthodox practices if explained negatively, can be made to sound awful, restricing and archaic. The Chumras of the Satmar community can be explained to sound beautiful too, I’m sure. Distortion is also a form of a lie.”
Saying how a practice seemed negative to you is not a distortion any more then saying it seemed beutifull to you
Doswin,
That’s silly. If she claimed in the book that a false rumor was true that would be one thing. She does not do so.
Or do you just assume anything that writes something negative about your way of life is false?
Health,
The 4th grade education thing is not mentioned in the book. She said it in an interview. Would you mind pointing out which facts in her book are not true? Can you explain how you know her book is “full of falsehoods” if you have not read it?
One,
I have flipped through Mein Kampf and it is fiction in that many of the facts it states were factually inaccurate. The same cannot be said for Feldman’s Memoir as much as you may disagree with her viewpoints on things (such as taharas hamishpacha etc.) her facts are accurate.
(please do not bring up that stupid kj murder story. it is clear in the context of the book that she was repeating a rumor that was flying around and her reaction to it-not making claims as to it factual correctness)
Also mein Kampf was not for the most part a history book (although what it does mention is in many cases factually inaccurate) or a story of anybody’s life but rather a book that painted a picture of what Hitler felt Germany and the world should be like