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March 18, 2009 3:16 am at 3:16 am #1123975JaxMember
proud tatty: thanx that was great! welcome, please continue to share devrei torah.
March 18, 2009 3:42 am at 3:42 am #1123976moish01Memberjax, there’s only one torah
good catch – this has been fixed
March 18, 2009 7:47 am at 7:47 am #1123979JaxMemberRabbasai, we need a volunteer for thursday. please sign up. thank you.
March 18, 2009 9:31 am at 9:31 am #1123980JayMatt19ParticipantThis is being given ??”? ?’ ??? ?”? ????? ,
The following come from the sefer Sifsei Chaim, Rinas Chaim on Shmoneh Esrei.
In Bircas HaMazon, we say ??? ??? ????????????? ?’ ??-??????? ?? ?????? ???????? ??????? ????? ???? ?????? ???????????. ???? ??? ???????? ??????????. ???????????. ???????????? ???????????. ?????? ??????? ???? ???????? ???????? ?????
This means when we ask from other people, we are embarrassed by this ???????? ?????, even in the world to come. However, when we ask, and receive from Hashem, there is no reason to be embarrassed.
R’ Eliya Lopian told the following story. Once he walked into the home of the Chafetz Chaim when the Chafetz Chaim was bentching. It was the norm for the Chafetz Chaim to say something after benching or davening, a p’shat or ha’arah on what he just prayed. This time he asked R’ Eliya what does it mean ??? ??? ????????????? … ???????? ????? ? What does it mean that we’ll be embarrassed in the next world?
The Chafetz Chaim answered the a story about himself: When I was looking for people to lend or give me money for the purpose of printing copies of the Mishna Berura I went to a few ‘gvirim’ asking for money for this purpose, and since the gvir think I is a big tzaddik, he gives me the money I request.
When we both go up to the Olam HaEmes, the rich man might see who the Chafetz Chaim is and he might tell me that I am not as great a tzaddik as he thought I was. And had he known this was my madreiga, he would never have given me the money. Thus, I will suffer a tremendous embarrassment in the next world.
Therefore we ask “???? ??? ???????? ??????????”, That we want to take exclusively from Hakadosh Baruch Hu. So that, ?????? ??????? ???? ???????? ???????? ?????, you HaKadosh Baruch Hu know who we are and where we are holding. Therefore there is no embarrassment when we receive from you. Not in this world, and not in the next world.
This also explains the words we say in Shmoneh Esrei ???? ?????? ???? ???? ?????????. When we have bitachon in Hashem and we only receive from him, then there won’t be embarrassment, since he knows exactly who we are, yet he nevertheless gives. And we know there that givings were never given under false pretenses. However, when receiving from humans, they CAN later come with claims of false pretenses, and such claims will cause major embarrassments in the world to come.
March 19, 2009 1:16 am at 1:16 am #1123981David S.MemberB’emes I am not good at divrei Torah I am more good at the practical halacha but I’ll make one before Shabbos on this parsha
March 19, 2009 5:07 am at 5:07 am #1123982JaxMemberjaymatt: his neshamah should have an aliyah. great vort there.
March 20, 2009 1:34 am at 1:34 am #1123986YW Moderator-72ParticipantKing Solomon, penned the famous words in Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the sun.” There is nothing new under the sun, that is to say (as our commentaries explain), in the physical world but in the spiritual realm, that which exists “above” the sun, there can be found the Source of constant newness and endless renewal! To the extent that we lead lives of spiritual purpose, connecting our lives to the Source of our existence, we can indeed experience the joy of renewal.
And since “connecting with G-d” directly is kind of difficult to do in this earthly existence–a point the Talmud itself acknowledges–, we have the Torah and mitzvos, whose very purpose is to transform the physical world into a place of kedusha (holiness), and elevate our selves towards the ideal of godliness. The roots of the Torah are “above” the sun, and therefore, it is the path to newness–whether in the sense of guiding us to teshuvah (repentance), a general renewal of our spiritual purity, or in the sense of constantly delighting and edifying us with an ever-fresh stream of Divine wisdom. (It is often said of great Torah scholars that no matter how many times they delve into a Torah topic, they always can find a “chiddush,” literally, “something new,” a novel insight or interpretation.)
Which brings us to this Shabbos. The mitzvah which perhaps most exemplifies the Torah’s message of renewal is the one we read about this week, after the regular parsha: the mitzvah of rosh chodesh, the sanctification of the new month.
“This month shall be for you the beginning of the months, it shall be for you the first of the months of the year.” The word for month in Hebrew, chodesh, has (not coincidentally) the same letters as the word for “new.” Therefore, as the S’fas Emes and other commentators point out, the verse could alternatively be read: “This month shall be for you the beginning of newnesses [or, renewals]” By commanding us to base our calendar (primarily) on the moon, Hashem was teaching us the message of constant renewal: the moon gets smaller and smaller, and then disappears only to reappear again. Israel is compared to the moon by our Sages: our fortunes as a people wax and wane; we look like we’re about to disappear (G-d forbid) and then we regain our strength and brightness. So, too, with regard to the spiritual life of each individual Jew.
As Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch beautifully points out, the pagan world (as exemplified by the Egyptian empire) knows no chidush [newness], not in the world, not in humanity, not in his gods, nor in the powers he places above men and the world. To him everything is bound by cast-iron necessity everything swims down the stream of blind unalterable necessity, all freedom is but an illusion, everything new is only that which existed in the old.” [Hirsch, Commentary on the Torah: Volume II, p. 128
The Jewish people, in stark contrast, is entrusted with teaching the message of renewal: a person’s sins can be forgiven, a person can regain lost enthusiasm for spiritual growth and elevation. The institution of rosh chodesh, the sanctifying of the new moon by the Jewish court in Jerusalem (after testimony by eyewitnesses of the moon’s reappearance), was the teacher par excelence of this concept.
The Sages decreed Shabbas HaChodesh as part of our spiritual preparation for Pesach, the holiday celebrating the liberation from our human masters. The Pesach perspective, if you will, is that there is a G-d above nature (above the sun) Who controls its cycles, and Who guides the world and intervenes in history as He did when He took us out of Egypt to stand at Sinai. By connecting with Him, who gave us a neshama (soul) and gave us the Torah to actualize the potential of that neshama, we are connecting with the Source of Life.
With the help of the Torah (and, particularly, the mitzvah of rosh chodesh and its eternal lessons), we can experience chidush, newness, in our lives. May Hashem help us make good use of the many such opportunities He gives us starting with the gift of Pesach-z’man cheyrusenu (the season of our freedom).
Rabbi Yosef Edelstein is the author of the D’Var Torah that I adapted for this posting – I forgot to mention this when I submitted it.
March 20, 2009 1:38 am at 1:38 am #1123987anonymisssParticipantThanks, mod72. (and I hope this means you’ll be updating the rest of the cr, too. so, double thanks!) and I did read the DT, btw.
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March 20, 2009 3:18 am at 3:18 am #1123988anonymisssParticipantJayMatt, I just read your DT and very much appreciated it, really. Thanks!
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March 20, 2009 3:33 am at 3:33 am #1123989HaQerMemberHey, mod72, I saw your request so here it goes:
This dvar Torah should be a zchus for a refuah shlaima for Shmaryahu Yosef Chaim ben Pesha Miriam and Aron Zelig ben Mayta along with all other Choley Yisroel.
We say in ha lachma anya, “hashata hacha,lishana haba biyisrael”, “now we are here, next year in the land of Israel”. R’ Chaim Brisker explains that we are comparing the geula from Mitztraim to the future geula from our current galus. Just as we were redeemed from Mitzraim bizchus the mitzvah of tzedakka, so too we will be redeemed from the current galus in the zchus of tzedakka. This is why we say “kol dichfin yaisai viyaichol”, to remind ourselves that through tzedakka we will be redeemed as it says “tzion bimishpat tipadeh vishaveha bitzedakka”.
He points out that tzedakka is one of the few mitzvos that can be done in completeness by everyone nowadays. In our current situation in galus, most mitzvos cannot be done completely. For instance, Shabbos can be kept but we don’t have the korban mussaf. Furthermore, even the mitzvos we have cannot be done in the best way possible by everyone because not everyone has the means. For instance, not everyone can afford the most mehudar tfillin. But, tzedakka can be done in completness by everyone because it is not limited by money. This may sound strange since tzedakka is the giving of money, but the best way to do the mitzvah is not in how much you give but how you give it and what percentage you give. Everyone is required and able to give between 10% and 20% and unfortanatly there are aniyim to give it to. So, the mitzvah of tzedakka can be done by everyone and in the zchus of everyone fulfilling the mitzvah of tzedakka to its fullest we should see the geula shlaima bikarov. Amen.
March 20, 2009 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #1123991YW Moderator-72Participantamen and thank you HaQer
March 21, 2009 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #1123992JayMatt19Participant????? ?? ???? ????, ??? ?????, ???? ??? ???-?, ?? ???
The Meshech Chachma askes: “Obviously Moshe did it specifically how Hashem told him. Why must the torah say so? and Why specifically here?”
The Meshech Chachma answers that the the bigdei kehuna contained Shatnez, something forbidden in clothing. Therefore, this halacha, which states to nullify the issur of shatnez by the bigdei kehuna, could only come from Hashem via Moshe. For no other navi can uproot an issur from the Torah (the exception being a ????? ???)
This is what the Torah is telling us here. Such a commandment to turn a blind eye to an existing issur can ONLY come from Hashem via Moshe. Moshe on his own could not even make such a commandment. Likewise a different Navi (or other leader type) EVEN IF THEY ARE QUOTING HASHEM, one shall not listen to them in such a case, for this “prophesy” of theirs is proof that they are a false prophet.
March 22, 2009 1:03 am at 1:03 am #1123993David S.MemberJayMatt nice Dvar Torah!
March 22, 2009 1:19 am at 1:19 am #1123994YW Moderator-72Participantok time to sign up David S. which night do you want? charlie, feivel, joseph, …anybody else…?
March 22, 2009 4:31 am at 4:31 am #1123995JaxMembermod72: shavuah tov! i’ll take tuesday night!
thanks and thank you for using only 1 “!” YW Moderator-72
March 22, 2009 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #1123996JayMatt19ParticipantJax, when are you going to make Tuesday a permanent night?
Alright 72, here is your 1st freebie of the week.
The following is from the Rinas Yitzchak on T’filla.
There is an interesting difference between the 1st paragraph of Krias Shema, and the 2nd Paragraph. The 1st paragraph is written in singular form whilst the second paragraph is in plural form.
Nevertheless, in the 2nd paragraph we say ???????????? ??? ???????? ???????? ??????????????: in singular form!
Additionally, ??????? ??????? is only in the 1st paragraph.
The Meshacha Chachma quotes the Vilna Gaon who states that ??????? ??????? is only in the 1st paragraph since a person can serve Hashem ??????? ???????, however, the second paragraph, which is written in plural, since it discusses how “The Rabbim” serve Hasem (i.e. the entire community as a whole), does not mention ??????? ??????? since we do not find reference to the Rabbim serving Hashem “with all their money”. This is also quoted in the name of the Nefesh HaChaim
Rabbeinu Yona in Sha’arei Teshuva writes that the mitzvos of t’fillin and mezzuza are “b’chlal” “Kaballas Ol Malchus Shamayim” (They fit into the category of the proclamation of Hashem as our Ruler and King) since the Krias Shema is written in them. Rabbeinu Yona writes in Brachos that the t’fillin we wear on the head corresponds to “Kaballas Ol Malchus Shamayim” of our Nefesh. The t’fillin we wear on the arm corresponds to “Kaballas Ol Malchus Shamayim” of our Guf, and that mezzuza corresponds to kabbalas ol malchus shamayim of our money.
Therefore, we can now understand why it is written in singular, despite being in the paragraph which discusses the Kehilla. Since mezzuza corresponds to the service with all our money, which can only be done by “individuals” and not by the “community”
Note from JayMatt: The Rinas Yitachak is NOT saying that everyone cannot attain the level of serving Hashem with all their money. All INDIVIDUALS can do so. There is just an additional entity known as the “Rabbim”, which cannot do so. In this case having every individual do so would NOT constitute having being done so by “The Rabbim”
March 22, 2009 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #1123997JaxMemberJayMatt: for now, i’ll stay as tentative! great vort there R’ JayMatt!!!
mod72: i’ve been noticing your not a fan of my ”!”
March 23, 2009 2:49 am at 2:49 am #1123998moish01Memberno dvar torah in 14 hours? ok, who’s doing one tonight?
it’s up to you moish01. YW Moderator-72
March 23, 2009 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #1124001JayMatt19ParticipantMod 72, here is your second freebie of the week. (Can I use these “donations” in lieu of Ma’aser payments? Ask your LOR)
Starting Rosh Chodesh (through Pesach) iy”h, all my divrei torah will be on the Haggada and Pesach.
In the meantime, Parshas Vayikra (a pshat from the Kli Yakar):
??? ??-????? ??? ????
A person needs to be like Adam HaRishon when he shechts a korban. Just like Adam HaRishon did it from himself, and not because he saw other doing it, likewise we must bring korbanos (and do all mitzvos) because we want to do them, and not because they are fashionable. (Rav Dessler has a piece in which he states that doing mitzvos because they are fashionable is on par with idolitry.)
Additionally, there are pshatim which state that ??? ??-????? ??? means LITERALLY with our entire body. We need to view a korban as if WE are being sacrificed to Hashem limbs, nerves and all. However, the passuk concludes ??-?????, ??-???? ???-????, ??????, ??-??????. Hashem, out of mercy, tells us this can be accomplished through an animal.
March 23, 2009 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #1124002YW Moderator-72ParticipantThanks JayMatt19. I will try to post one on Rosh Chodesh. I have yahrzeit for my Grandfather – Yaakov bn Reuven Tzvi
we need more volunteers to keep this going. we haven’t missed a day yet and I hope not to miss any days, however, we can’t keep relying on 1 person to keep posting.
remember the topic of the D’var Torah is your choice and we accept for review all submissions.
March 23, 2009 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #1124003JayMatt19ParticipantPlease post the name so that if I do one as well, it can also be ??”? your grandfather.
May the nishama have an aliya,
Also, don’t forget to put yourself on the list 72!!
March 24, 2009 1:33 am at 1:33 am #1124004kapustaParticipantmod 72 I felt bad for you…
this is l’iluy nishmas (not sure of the name yet, try to find out ASAP)
Vayikra (Leviticus 1-5)
Do As I Do
In this week’s Torah Portion, God tells Moses the procedures the Jewish people must follow if they commit sin. And if:
“… the entire assembly of Israel shall err … the elders … shall lean their hands upon the head of the bull before God…” (Lev. 4:13-15)
A LIFE LESSON
If the Jewish nation as a whole commits a sin, the atonement for their actions falls primarily on their leaders. Why is it that the leaders have to make amends for a sin that they never committed? The reason is that oftentimes people in a position of authority believe that one set of ethics applies to them, while there’s another set of rules for those that they’re leading. But God tells us that if leaders feel this way, they miss the mark of what it means to be a leader.
In the real world, those in any “organization” will always follow the example of those who are in charge. Children pick up all the habits – good and bad – of their parents, employees pick up the behavior of their bosses, and the Jewish people followed the example of those who led them. And when the Jewish people erred, God knew that their behavior was a direct result of the actions being done by those who were leading them. If the people sinned, it was in large part due to the environment that was created by the elders that allowed the sin to foster.
In our own lives, we all play some sort of leadership role. And the behavior of those we lead will always be a direct result of our own behavior. If a child answers the telephone and is told by his parent who is standing right next to him to tell the caller he isn’t home, the child then internalizes this behavior. So when the parent tells this child the following week that he or she should never tell a lie, the child now faces a serious internal conflict. On one hand, he wants to listen to his parent. But, on the other hand he also wants to emulate the actions of his parent whom he respects. Does he listen to what he says, or do as he does?
God tells us that people will usually follow actions they see over the words they hear – and this is why the elders had to bring an atonement when the Jewish people committed a sin. God tells us that the reason the people sinned was that the breeding ground for the negative behavior already existed.
People will follow what you do over what you say. If you want to instill a certain type of behavior in others, then create the environment for it to happen. Not by declarations, but by embracing and living the desired behavior yourself.
taken from aish.com
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March 24, 2009 4:06 am at 4:06 am #1124005anonymisssParticipantkapusta, I guess this fits in with our discussion on the other thread. Thanks!
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March 24, 2009 4:50 am at 4:50 am #1124006JaxMemberD’Var Torah – Parsha Vayikra:
It is a very special thing when a child learns Torah for the first time. There is a time honored Jewish custom, of beginning a child’s Torah learning with Parshas Vayikra. The reason is that this section deals with the karbanos which are always given in purity, so we let the young children who are pure from chataim begin their Torah study “careers” dealing with purity. Adults actually possess those same virtues but as we get older we tend to lose touch with that wellspring of purity because of the stresses in our lives and other external factors. The Talmud states that even if the Torah had not been given, we would have learned “Thou shalt not steal” by observing the ant(ants never steal food from each other). We would have learned chastity from the dove and modesty from the cat. How is the Talmud so confident that we would learn all the right things from all the right animals. Maybe we would look at the animals that are thieving, immodest, and unchaste and learn all those bad traits. The Talmud is sure this would not happen because each person has an internal chord that naturally responds to good and rejects evil. It is built into us. Dovid Hamelech wrote “Ura kivodi” -Awaken my glory. Every Jew has that glory inside, we may lose touch with it but we never lose IT. We can achieve spiritual greatness by simply reconnecting to that splendor which Hashem planted within us. It’s right there waiting for us. With Torah learning, Tefillah and introspection we can tap in to that inner child.
March 25, 2009 2:26 am at 2:26 am #1124008aussieboyParticipantAnyone have a dvar torah? Oddly im in the mood of hearing one. Just try to keep it on the shorter side. 🙂
March 25, 2009 2:37 am at 2:37 am #1124009moish01Memberaussie – i was about to go into shock – i thought you posted one…
by the way, i can’t believe you davened vasikin like me today 😉
March 25, 2009 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1124010moish01Memberaussie – you read the one from Jax? i liked it.
March 25, 2009 3:52 am at 3:52 am #1124011anonymisssParticipantOk, I’ve avoided posting a DT ever since the inception of this thread. I’ll be brave tonight. I hope it’s short enough. Here you go!
????? ? ?? ??? ?????
The parsha begins: ????? ? ?? ??? ????? Rashi says that the word ????? is a term of endearment, a loving way to call to ???. This would seem inconsistent with the word ????? which we know is a strong way of speaking to someone. Why does the pasuk juxtapose (good hangman word) the two words whose connotations are opposite? The answer is that Hashem is modeling for us how to teach people. Before you can teach something, there has to be love. You want to help someone do the right thing? There must be ????? in order to do ?????.
“No one cares how much you know, until they know how much you care.”
(taken from Rabbi M. Solomon)
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March 25, 2009 3:59 am at 3:59 am #1124012moish01Memberok, here’s a short dvar torah that i remember from preschool 😉 (so yeah, it’s not the most sophisticated and i hope it’s accurate)
The passuk in vayikra starts out “vayikra el moshe” – that Hashem called to Moshe. Why is the word “vayikra” written with a small aleph?
Moshe was aware of his own greatness. He knew he was the greatest novi ever and yet it didn’t get to his head. Moshe realized it was all a gift from Hashem and instead, he felt greater responsibility.
When Hashem was telling Moshe what to write, Moshe wanted to leave out the aleph because he felt it made him seem too important – that Hashem was talking to HIM. So as a sort of comprimised he made a smaller aleph – which shows his small ego.
hope that’s accurate. never really trust a six year-old’s memory.
March 25, 2009 4:26 am at 4:26 am #1124013anonymisssParticipantmoish, nice! I like that, and it’s something we all (ok, just me) can learn from.
btw, you were six in preschool???? Ummmm……
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March 25, 2009 4:38 am at 4:38 am #1124014moish01Memberha i just made up that number – how old is a first grader? pre-1A?
March 25, 2009 5:09 am at 5:09 am #1124015aussieboyParticipantall very good DT’s
moish01: I didnt daven vasikin (i actually weent to sleep a bit after I posted) but its good to hear that you did
March 25, 2009 5:12 am at 5:12 am #1124016moish01Memberoh i was kidding! i went to sleep right after that too.
and that DT was for you, by the way. you could say thank you – i racked my brains.
March 25, 2009 5:19 am at 5:19 am #1124017anonymisssParticipantThanks, aussie!
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March 25, 2009 5:29 am at 5:29 am #1124018kapustaParticipantmoish you really davened vasikin? queen kapusta is impressed!!! 🙂
March 25, 2009 5:36 am at 5:36 am #1124019anonymisssParticipantfirst grade-6
pre-1A-5
(approximately)
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March 25, 2009 6:16 am at 6:16 am #1124020JaxMemberanonymisss: great d’var torah! thanx i liked!
moish: shkoyach well done pal! awesome you gave one!
March 25, 2009 7:32 am at 7:32 am #1124021JaxMembermoish: i’m so gladed u liked! it’s so nice when others comment on the d’var torah given!
March 25, 2009 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #1124023aussieboyParticipantSoory Moish. Beautiful dvar torah. You too anonymisss.
March 25, 2009 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #1124024moish01Memberaussie, that’s not one of the first things you ever learned? i thought everybody knew that from pre1A
March 25, 2009 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1124025JayMatt19ParticipantWell, it is Chodesh Nissan here in Yerushalayim, so here is a vort on the hagadda.
Since it is Alef nissan here, this dvar torah will be given L’iluy Nishmas Yaakov ben Reuven Tzvi (the grandfather of Moderator-72, the backbone and brains behind this wonderful Makom Torah)
Rav Shach asks “Something seems weird about the answer the father gives to his Chachom son. It seems the Chachom is asking about the ta’amei hamitzva (reason behind the mitzva) yet the father answers with halachos about this mitzva. How does this make sense?”
Rav Shach explains that a great lesson is being taught here, and this is the essence of “???? ?????”. One who strives to learn the reason initially, will do so to arrive at questions in order to invalidate the commandments and the one commanding them. One should first start with the mitzvos, and learn about them as they are doing them properly.
This is the answer to the Chacham. If you want to know the reason for doing the mitzvos first you need to do them properly and with the proper d’vakus. Only then can you correctly understand the reason for them.
March 25, 2009 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #1124026YW Moderator-72ParticipantAs we approach Pesach there is a practical way to enhance our seder and our happiness.
One easy way of doing this is to put money in the Tomche Shabbos Puskha or another organization such as Kupras Ezra that provides food and funds for the needy in your communities before doing your food, household supplies and Yom Tov outfits shopping. Many of the Heimish stores in my neighborhood have a scanning card so that you can automatically adds $1, $2 or $5 to your order and designates it to Tomche Shabbos or another such organization.
Look at your extended family and see if they need something but our embarrassed to ask.
Wishing eveyone a Good Chodesh and a Chag Kasher v’Sameach
March 26, 2009 2:59 am at 2:59 am #1124027kapustaParticipantvery nice mod, may the neshama have an aliyah
no one liked my DT?
March 26, 2009 6:32 am at 6:32 am #1124028JaxMembermod72: the neshama should have an aliya! that was an outstanding one!
kapusta: i liked your d’var torah!!! sorry i forgot to post about it!
JayMatt19: another master piece R’JayMatt!
March 26, 2009 7:34 am at 7:34 am #1124029CrashOverrideMemberI’ll be putting one on tonight, if thats ok with the mods?
Sure is, all are welcome to give.
You have been added to the main sign-up sheet. Looking forward to your words of wisdom
March 26, 2009 7:45 am at 7:45 am #1124030kapustaParticipantthank you Jax! my first fan!!! 🙂
March 26, 2009 7:52 am at 7:52 am #1124031JaxMemberCrashOverride: the more devrei torah the better!!! lookin foward to it!!!
March 26, 2009 8:21 am at 8:21 am #1124032aussieboyParticipantI posted this on a diffrent thread but it seems appropriate to be here 🙂
Question: Why in the first bracha of shemoneh esrei do we say praises that chazal tell us to say. It makes more sense when giving praise to do it in your own words, it should be what the person himself feels. Right?
Answer: No matter how much praise you give or what you say it wouldnt even come close to explaining how great god is. In fact it may even be considered an insult. It is like telling someone who has a trillion dollars that they have a lot of money. Not only does it not come close to describing it but it is insulting to rfer to it in such a way.
I have filled my quota of divrei torah for a lifetime now 😉
March 26, 2009 8:32 am at 8:32 am #1124033moish01Memberniiiiiiiiiiice, auss!
now go tell your dad first thing in the morning when he wakes up. let his shep 😉
March 26, 2009 8:36 am at 8:36 am #1124035aussieboyParticipantThank you, thank you. *bows*
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