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This coffee room was created as a way to discuss topics to help each other out. Instead, it makes generalizations about so many different types of people for all to see. There is enough antisemitism in the world we don’t need to discriminate against our own brothers! Mashiach is not coming any closer when all we could do is badmouth each other. How can we make the coffee-room a more spiritually safe place to be?
i agree 100%. The topics discussed and the amount of time wasted on discussing other people’s lives and thoughts is not appropriate for a Torah Jew. Let’s try to talk about other things besides lashon hara.
Maybe you shouldn’t come here and bash us without knowing the culture?
This thread is loshon hora.
so anyone have any ideas how to improve the standards of the coffeeroom or are you too busy circulating lashon hara?
In order to make a post, you must take an online class in a relevant middah, such as anavah, and pass a test on the content.
Anyone see the irony of the OP?
Is pointing out that the OP is lashon hora lashon hora? Is my question lashon hora? How about that one?
The level of dialogue here in the YWN CR is really outstanding. Every few weeks, there is some posting complaining that criticisim of other yidden by some participant or strong disagreement with a political view expressed by a well know rav is either lashon harah, mevazeh talmid chacom or apikorsus (or in some cases a trifecta of all three). By and large, the Mods seem to be trying to keep us on the high road without cutting off legitimate dissenting views. In many cases, there are facts and realities which some may regard as lashon harah but in reality must be stated and openly debated. Shutting down discussion in the name of avoiding someone else’s definition of “lashon horah” would substantially erode the valuie of this site.
Samantha101, your post violates multiple site rules.
If you really believe you’re correct ,why the need to open two accounts to say so
samantha101: I am not sure how a new poster can determine why this room was created. While some posts can be determined to be L”H, we try to avoid it as best as possible. The moderators try their best to monitor the posts.
Samantha101, same to you.
Sam101
As a gadol hador(ah), I know that when the topic is whether a certain askan, public official, Rav or poishete yid acted properly in doing XYZ, its not “lashon harah” to clearly present your view as to whether XYZ is an appropriate action, public policy etc. We read here often how in EY where Rabbonim are much more active in political debate, that certain rabbonim denigrate and use hyperbole with respect to those whose political views they disagree with yet when someone responds by criticizing the source of the negative comments, they themselves are criticized for using lashon harah w/o acknowledging the original source . Yes, there are ways to disagree without engaging in what you might consider lashon harah but many times, there is no way to avoid acknowledging what was said or done, even if it might “upset” some readers. If someone goes OTD (linguistically) that’s why the Ebeshter created “Mods”.
I really don’t think the topic was written with bad intentions – Samantha101 is correct that people discussing other people all day will lead to the transgression of the terrible aveirah of loshon horah. Gossip is said constantly on this forum, I’m sorry to say.
And opening multiple accounts to second your own statements can lead to the transgression of the terrible aveirah of sock puppeting.
She’s clearly new.
She didn’t realize that opening 2 accounts is against the rules, and probably did not know the moderators can see your IP address and immediately see when two users have posted from the same computer.The rules are stickied on the main page. Also, sock puppeting is obviously dishonest, and thinking you can get away with something is not an excuse.
No one actually reads those before they post.
And we all are dishonest sometimes, we make mistakes.
Dan Likaf zechut people!@DaasYochid – That actually is a very geshmack sheila, which I’ve talked about with several Roshei HaYeshivos and talmidei chachamim (can one publicize or point out views that the stater believes are not problematic, but others do (and may be objectively as well) (where such statements do not make them into a rasha)). They all told me that it is probably muttar meikar hadin, as that is what the chofetz chaim is mashma, but that one probably shouldn’t do it anyway or try to find out such a thing (more problems with reading the news). Has anyone here heard anything about this?
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