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August 26, 2014 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #1156545stanleycParticipant
I am partial to choice #1 and choice #3. And choice #4. And choice #4.
August 29, 2014 2:33 am at 2:33 am #1156546Patur Aval AssurParticipant“Mr. big talker, patur aval assur…”
(stanleyc)
September 3, 2014 2:48 am at 2:48 am #1156547Patur Aval AssurParticipant“You stole that T’shuvah…”
(Sam2)
“This is not reform”
(John)
“Just to annoy you.”
(writersoul)
“Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not.”
(DaasYochid)
September 3, 2014 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #1156548β DaasYochid βParticipantThat quote wasn’t about you. Thank you for demonstrating my point.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-coffee-room-report-card-comments#post-530082
September 3, 2014 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #1156549Patur Aval AssurParticipantYes it was about me! You quoted me: “It doesn’t matter if we are right because we have the truth” and responded with: “Of course it does. Same argument as in the other (Daas Torah?) thread. Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not. I think you even put a line of mine in the good quotes thread.”
September 3, 2014 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #1156550β DaasYochid βParticipantYes, it was directed towards you, and referred to something you said, but it wasn’t *about* you.
To quote from your OP: “A selection of the awesome comments people have said about me in the Coffee Room:”.
Unless you’ve now taken this entire thread out of context…
π
September 3, 2014 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #1156551Patur Aval AssurParticipantYou are correct in the pure meaning of what I wrote. However, I meant “A selection of the awesome comments people have said in reference to me in the Coffee Room:” but most of the ones in the beginning were direct insults so I wasn’t so medakdek in my choice of words.
But once we are nitpicking, I didn’t demonstrate your point because I didn’t take the quote out of any context that would affect the meaning of the quote. All I did was post a quote which might not have qualified to be in this thread.
September 3, 2014 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #1156552β DaasYochid βParticipantAh, but it wasn’t “in reference” to you (which means the same as “about” you), it was an idea which I happened to be discussing with you. Since there was absolutely nothing personal even hinted at in my statement, it was out of context in the thread, which was supposed to be about comments referring to you. By putting it in this thread, you imply that there’s some way of construing it as personal, which there isn’t.
For example, lines and phrases such as, “your asinine intellectually dishonest misconceptions”, “It doesn’t matter how many seforim you can quote, you are crum”, “You for some reason seem incapable of making what is a fairly straightforward distinction” [ed. the “for some reason” is probably insufficient learning b’iyun :)], “You just like being contrarian”, “people find you so annoying…”, and even, “…taking R’ Chaim out of the realm of “hypothetical lomdus” is so outrageous, yet that is what you are doing” can be understood as being “about”, or “in reference to”, you. But, “Right is right, whether you can successfully prove it or not” has nothing to do with you, and cannot reasonably be construed that way.
September 3, 2014 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1156553Patur Aval AssurParticipantOk, maybe I didn’t explain myself properly. When I said “in reference to me” I meant that it was said referencing me i.e. in response to me.
September 4, 2014 1:31 am at 1:31 am #1156554β DaasYochid βParticipantWell, the ones that were about you were more funny (although I certainly do not agree with many of them).
Either way, I do appreciate your inclusion of some of my sayings in your list of “awesome” comments.
September 4, 2014 3:09 am at 3:09 am #1156555Patur Aval AssurParticipant“Well, the ones that were about you were more funny”
I completely agree but unfortunately I seem to have exhausted the reservoirs of those comments the people that I am currently arguing with in various threads are too polite to say such things.
“although I certainly do not agree with many of them”
Which means you do agree with some of them. Probably the ones you quoted in your previous post.
September 4, 2014 3:11 am at 3:11 am #1156556Patur Aval AssurParticipant“Either way, I do appreciate your inclusion of some of my sayings in your list of “awesome” comments.”
Just keep in mind that even if I think that you had an awesome line it doesn’t mean that I think the line is valid in (certain) arguments, for instance the line about proving the truth.
September 4, 2014 3:31 am at 3:31 am #1156557β DaasYochid βParticipantProbably the ones you quoted in your previous post.
Well, one of them, anyhow. I’m too polite to agree to the others.:)
Just keep in mind that even if I think that you had an awesome line it doesn’t mean that I think the line is valid in (certain) arguments, for instance the line about proving the truth.
Oh well, maybe one day…
September 9, 2014 4:02 am at 4:02 am #1156558Patur Aval AssurParticipant“PAA, you seem to spend a lot of time delving deeply into the sugya of why we shouldn’t spend a lot of time delving deeply into one sugya.”
(DaasYochid)
September 9, 2014 4:27 am at 4:27 am #1156559β DaasYochid βParticipantIt was even in context!
π
September 9, 2014 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #1156560Patur Aval AssurParticipant“It was even in context!”
You are not allowed to say something complimentary about me in this thread. You’ll have to start a new one for that.
September 9, 2014 6:02 pm at 6:02 pm #1156561β DaasYochid βParticipantIf you would know how to learn b’iyun, you would have chapped that it was a backhanded compliment. π
September 10, 2014 3:47 am at 3:47 am #1156562Patur Aval AssurParticipantDaasYochid:
If you keep this up you will soon take the lead for most comments against me. Counting the most recent one, you have 8, second only to
TorahUmadda-731-MelechYavanHarasha’s 9.
September 10, 2014 3:58 am at 3:58 am #1156563β DaasYochid βParticipantOh, good, it counts even if I post it, instead of you.
It’s a little unfair, though, since I am involved in more discussions/debates with you than the others.
September 10, 2014 11:18 am at 11:18 am #1156564Patur Aval AssurParticipant“since I am involved in more discussions/debates with you than the others.”
That’s just their loss. Feel good about yourself that I deem you (somewhat of) a worthy opponent against whom I am willing to spend time debating. Probably though, the reason is that I (generally) post on Torah (in a broad sense of the word) related topics, which do not seem to be such an attraction to the average poster.
September 10, 2014 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #1156565Patur Aval AssurParticipantCan’t believe I missed this one:
“Some of PAA’s comments are tolerable.”
(popa_bar_abba)
September 10, 2014 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #1156566β DaasYochid βParticipantIs he beating me now?
September 10, 2014 6:03 pm at 6:03 pm #1156567Patur Aval AssurParticipantYeah, Popa now has 9 – tied with TorahUmadda-731-MelechYavanHarasha.
September 17, 2014 1:42 am at 1:42 am #1156568Patur Aval AssurParticipant“And there you go again, mixing up proof and being right.”
(DaasYochid)
September 22, 2014 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #1156569Patur Aval AssurParticipant“Now watch PAA make painful diyukim on my line.”
(DaasYochid)
October 7, 2014 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1156570Patur Aval AssurParticipant“oh stop it!!!!”
(cozimjewish)
October 8, 2014 5:00 am at 5:00 am #1156571cozimjewishMemberHey!!! I was quoted by The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur! Yay! I’m so proud of myself ;)!!!
October 8, 2014 5:28 am at 5:28 am #1156572cozimjewishMemberOh wait a minute. Was that too complimentary? Sorry
October 8, 2014 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #1156573Patur Aval AssurParticipant“The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur”
?????????? ?????? ????
October 20, 2014 12:55 am at 12:55 am #1156574Patur Aval AssurParticipant“If this is anything like the iyun thread, you’ll never end up deciding.”
(DaasYochid)
October 21, 2014 11:20 am at 11:20 am #1156575RandomexMember(This is probably the the only time I’ll appear in this thread – I don’t believe in ad hominem attacks.)
“The Mighty Powerful and Awesome Patur Aval Assur”
?????????? ?????? ????
LOL! For anyone who doesn’t understand, that last line is Aramaic for, essentially, “Have you finished all the praise?”
In the original context, (Brachos 33b*) a man who had added on to the standard formula of ??? ????? ????? ?????? at the beginning of Shmoneh Esrei is being questioned rhetorically if his additions had exhausted Hashem’s praises (i.e. seeing as this cannot be done, one should refrain from any such additions).
In this context, PAA questions, as if out of arrogance, why
cozimjewish did not give him more titles. The humor derives from
both the in-context meaning and what it references.
*I was only familiar with Megilla 25a, but that was enough to get the joke, and I found the version with ?????? on the Hebrew Wikisource.
October 21, 2014 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #1156576cozimjewishMemberThe reason I didnt answer the question was because I had no clue what on earth it was asking;)
October 21, 2014 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm #1156577Patur Aval AssurParticipantFinally, someone got it. I was originally going to quote the entire passage, but I figured that I would then get accused of deifying myself.
And why do you say “as if out of arrogance”?
October 21, 2014 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #1156578Patur Aval AssurParticipant“The reason I didnt answer the question was because I had no clue what on earth it was asking;)”
For future reference, I don’t bite, so you can ask me to clarify what I have said/asked/answered.
October 21, 2014 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #1156579cozimjewishMember“For future reference, I don’t bite, so you can ask me to clarify what I have said/asked/answered.”
Translating hebrew/ lashon hakodesh (and certainly Aramaic, for that matter) is reeeeeaaaallly reeeeaaally reeeeeeeeaaaalllly NOT my thing. Didnt wanna sound stupid, so I waited to see if anybody else would ask……which they didnt, which made me think it must be something really obvious that I am supposed to know π
October 21, 2014 1:45 pm at 1:45 pm #1156580RandomexMemberFinally, someone got it.
How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?
I said “as if” so as not to accuse you of arrogance.
October 21, 2014 1:46 pm at 1:46 pm #1156581Patur Aval AssurParticipantSo I guess I should have invoked ?? ??? ??.
October 21, 2014 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #1156582Patur Aval AssurParticipant“How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?”
Everyone.
“I said “as if” so as not to accuse you of arrogance.”
Which is precisely why I asked.
October 21, 2014 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #1156583RandomexMemberYou’re either proclaiming real arrogance or remaining in-character, right? Or is there a third interpretation?
October 21, 2014 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #1156584Patur Aval AssurParticipantDepends what you mean by “in-character”.
October 21, 2014 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #1156585Patur Aval AssurParticipant“Facetious”
(Randomex)
“I think this is facetious…”
(Randomex)
October 23, 2014 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #1156586Patur Aval AssurParticipant“…I realized how bad your portrayal of the other CR members was…”
(DaasYochid)
October 23, 2014 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1156588Patur Aval AssurParticipant“”merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned.”
Precisely the point I was trying to make”
(cozimjewish)
October 23, 2014 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #1156589Patur Aval AssurParticipant“In other words ‘do I have to be consistent and not hypocritical.'”
(rationalfrummie)
October 24, 2014 3:27 am at 3:27 am #1156590cozimjewishMemberPAA – You left out the wink, which portrays me as cynical rather than joking as I intended
(Cozimjewish)
October 24, 2014 11:27 am at 11:27 am #1156591Patur Aval AssurParticipantSo you don’t actually think that I am merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned?
October 24, 2014 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1156592RandomexMemberRandomex: How many people (that you don’t quote here) do you think read this thread?
Patur Avul Assur: Everyone.
Well, let’s find out! If you read this thread, please speak up.
If you don’t read this thread…
Never mind, this poll is called off!
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Me: You’re either proclaiming real arrogance or remaining in-character, right? Or is there a third interpretation?
Patur Aval Assur: Depends what you mean by “in-character”.
I retract both interpretations of your statement as mistakes.
The first interpretation (proclaiming real arrogance as a joke) is still a valid option for your question, but unless I’m mistaken, the meaning of both is that you wanted to clarify whether I was or was not accusing you of arrogance.
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“Facetious”
(Randomex)
“I think this is facetious…”
(Randomex)
Please disregard those statements, everyone. The meaning I intended is not what “facetious” actually means – I too am occasionally tripped up by my own Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness.
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“…I realized how bad your portrayal of the other CR members was…”
(DaasYochid)
So, by considering this a relevant comment about you, are you saying you were actually attempting to portray us in character?
[Reader references: http://theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/good-jokes/page/33#post-536619
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/creative-writing-cr-users-in-real-life#post-540659 ]
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To clarify a previous comment:
merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned.
(Patur Avul Assur)
Precisely the point I was trying to make
(cozimjewish)
Also see here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/your-coffee-room-report-card-comments/page/2#post-540812
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So you don’t actually think that I am merely spewing Aramaic quotes that have no relevance to anything, but give the impression of being somewhat learned?
She doesn’t have to answer that!
I’ll answer for myself, though – I know
that not to be the case.
(Explanation for everyone else: All she said was that her statement did not mean that – she did not say whether she believed it or not. That’s what he’s asking.)
October 24, 2014 1:24 pm at 1:24 pm #1156593Patur Aval AssurParticipantI’m confused about the whole arrogance thing.
And it’s still your move in the forest thread.
October 24, 2014 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #1156594RandomexMemberHere are some unauthorized quotes:
“this is a very serious question I think we sould ask patur avul assur”
(Bendit)
“Patur avul Assur- you […] have obviosuly no respect for our Minhagim and our Gedolim. Shame on you.”
(smartcookie)
EDIT: I actually forgot to check if those were already there before posting, but it turns out they weren’t. I noticed Smartcookie’s other quote from that thread, through.
October 24, 2014 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #1156595Patur Aval AssurParticipantRandomex:
This thread is only for non-complimentary comments, so the first one doesn’t belong.
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