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Does anyone know where the pronunciation Yisroel comes from? As in, for example, every song I have ever heard? As far as I can tell, it is a kamatz.
Yisrael for the place.
Yisroel for the rest ‘cuz that’s how we roll
Accent varies by geographical location.
It might help if you used actual pronunciation notation
(I don’t know which non-kamatz sound you mean).Rand0m3x: The word ישראל has a KAMATZ under the ר which should be pronounced “RAW”. However, many people pronounce it as if it had CHOLOM which would be “RO”. People usually spell it in English as YISROEL hence the OP’s question.
In EY, Ashkenazi pronunciation of the kamatz is more of an Oh or sound, not oi like a cholom. The patach is what has the Ah sound. It does not matter if it is for the name of a person or the place (EY).
The Sefardim have no significant difference in the pronunciation of the patach and the kamatz, both sound like an Ah.
In America, many people pronounce these vowels like Sefardim.
Chassidim pronounce most patach as an “oo” sound so it would be “Yisruel”
Kametz, can be an “ah” as in father, an “oh” as in oatmeal, or an “aw” as in “raw” depending on dialect. All are glatt kosher. The “aw” (spoken by western and northeastern European Ashkenazi) is probably closer to the ancient pronounication, but you’ll need a time machine to be certain.
Nechomah: There are those who pronounce it as “cholam” and those who pronounce it as “choilam”. The kamatz is generally sounded as “AW” and the patach as “AH”.
Please give examples of songs that sound out “Yisrael” as yis-roy-el.
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