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what r the top 5 most yeshivish yeshivas in america
What does that mean?
Yeshiva Toras Chaim: Elev 5322 ft
What do you mean by yeshivish? Greasy, Farfrumet, Lomdush, Serious Learners?
Hmmm…how are you determining this?
1. number of students
2. elevation (as others have said, and I think Denver wins…)
3. How Yeshivish? Now this would be almost impossible to determine….
*grades?
*Amount covered by the school’s curriculum? But how do you know if they really comprehend the material and know it?
*school rules?
*lack of school rules (because the students know better so we don’t have to tell them not to…)
The above two really don’t mean anything because what do the students do outside school grounds?
*”talk yeshivish” ie- mean that “what are the top 5 schools with the poorest English vocabulary and comprehension?
Please expand and clarify your question… possibly elucidating the reason for the post could assist the general readers. No one knows “what you mean” except you. Oh, and please write in COMPLETE SENTENCES! Then again, not if you mean the last “*”…
Chofetz Chaim, which occupies all 5 slots.
labubby – your not being specific enough, the whole yeshivisha world speaks yeshivish!
Yeshivish may be defined by five criteria:
1-Poor English
2-Poor Yiddish
3-Skill at thumb-dreying
4-Ignorance of tanach
5-State of hats (the worse the better)
Thus, instead of having the top 5 yeshivos, we can have a first place in each category:
Poor English: Yeshiva Torah V’yireh d’Satmar, for not speaking English in Yeshiva b’shita.
Poor Yiddish: Yeshiva University, for having students who can speak for an hour or more on one R’ Chaim without using the word “tzushtell” once.
Skill at thumb-dreying: This one doesn’t go to any yeshiva in particular, but to every mesivta bochur who was ever asked a good kasha and tried to dig himself out of a “bor yud tfachim” using only his right thumb.
Ignorance of tanach: Lakewood, for being the alma mater of the one man I ever heard say a “the passuk is in Bava Metzia” and mean it.
Sate of hats: Yeshiva Tomchei Temimim d’Lubavitch, for having a twice-run-over hat as part of their levush.
LET THE BASHING OF WHAT WAS CLEARLY A JOKE … BEGIN!!
Why this promotion of Yeshivish? Wouldn’t it be better to use proper Hebrew, Yiddish, and/or English?
1. Bais Hatalmud in Bensonhurst
2. Yeshiva Mekor Chaim (Rav Paler’s yeshiva)
3. Bais Medrash Elyon
labubby,
Let me give you some hard-earned parenting advice (although, if you are truly a bubby, I would think you would be aware of this already as you have more parenting experience than I do).
Do not focus on a list of the “best yeshivos.” The yeshiva you should be searching for is not the “best yeshiva” but rather the best yeshiva *for your son*. Just because a yeshiva is a “top yeshiva” that does not mean that it is necessarily right for your kid. You have to know your kid’s personality, temperament and academic ability. If you send your kid to a “top yeshiva” and it’s not right for him, you’ve lost far more than you gained.
Sadly, I’ve seen parents blindly chase “the best yeshiva” without regard to whether it was right for their particular kid. They either wanted the prestige of being associated with “the best yeshiva” or figured that because it was good for one of their kids that is must be good for all their kids*.
Do me a favor — instead of focusing on “the best yeshiva,” find the one that’s right for your kid. It may turn out that the “the best yeshiva” is the right one — but don’t focus the search solely on the reputation of the yeshiva while ignoring the particular needs of your kids.
The Wolf
* And, yes, I practice what I preach. I have two boys in high school — and they are in two different high schools because they are two different kids with different academic, religious and social needs. The high school that my oldest is in works for him — but was not right for his younger brother. We didn’t even apply to that school for him (and not because we’re not happy with that school).
Wolf:
As an LaBubby she is likely searching for a shidduch for her youngest daughter and wants to gain some WOW points. “WOW, what a yeshivish bochur, our family has finally hit the jackpot!!”
Know someone like that. Married his daughter to the “Top bochur” in Ponevezh. The ‘buyers remorse’ he is experiencing until this day is incredible.
Wolf:
What criteria did you use to determine which kid needs which yeshiva? And for a regular kid, with no particular issues, what criteria would you think should be used?
Riverdale and Phillie used to be the tops.. not sure which ones are now!
Times change, types of boys there at the time etc..
What criteria did you use to determine which kid needs which yeshiva?
The style of learning, the hashkafic outlook of the schools and my kids (believe it or not, my kids are not hashkafic carbon copies of each other or myself), the academic qualities of the school and the academic abilities of my kids, the social environment of the schools and my kids (there is a wide range of social skills among my kids) and the personality of my kids and the character of the student body.
Taking those factors (and others) into account, we determined which was the best school for which kid. I’m positive that neither son would do as well as they are doing if they swapped schools.
Again, I can’t stress it enough — you can’t just look for the best school. You have to find the best school for your kid.
The Wolf
Wolf- Kudos to you as an amazing parent! There are so many parents out there who look for “the best” yeshiva or “the top” yeshiva, without considering what will be best for their child.
labubby – Top greasy places is lav davka muchrach to be the places that talk yeshivish, and fakert oichet (vice versa).
most gresay probaly stamford, most yeshivish fallsburg
Define “greasy”. (watch the differing definitions out there…)
AND PLEASE WRITE IN FULL SENTENCES! Commas do not take the place of verbs, prepositions or periods!
What is your question/point anyways LABUBBY?
labubby – phili is americonishe yishivish, and slamowitz is a bit greasy, and pretty yishvish
havesomeseichel – I think there was once a thread defining greasy.
My frying pan from breakfast.
Greasy and yeshivish are two different things? I guess you learn something new everyday.
Yeshivish ppl could be but not necessarily greasy. greasy by definitionm are always yeshivish +!
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