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March 19, 2024 8:08 am at 8:08 am #2270163englisherpotzParticipant
Hi Mates
Sorry for starting such a trivial topic compared to all the other topics here in the kaveh shteeb which are devorim hoimdim al haperek.
Anyway, this is important to me so I’ll hope you’ll forgive me.
Basically, as you guys can see I’m an English loser, I know all you Americans look down on us, and for good reason.
I’m not mamesh an American wannabe, I’m sure you’ve all met one or two, but I do see the light and I realise that most good things come from America. I also hang around with Americans some of the time.
We English are always behind in the fashion, like a few years behind you guys. Like we were (and some still are) wearing circus tents on our heads long after you guys realised that hats are supposed to be small.
Anyway, I’ve finally got myself Cole Hann shoes (I know those are already out and everyone has been getting the Swiss sheech for ages, but I actually like Cole Hann better) and Lululemon trousers, but my question is how do you guys all know what is in fashion, how can I keep up to date with the cool yeshivish guys and not only catch on a few years later?
Specifically, I now want to buy myself a new pair of glasses and I want to know which style is in fashion, I can’t afford to buy new pairs the whole time so I really need a pair that I’ll like and is really in fashion.
What are oilom saying?
Thank you!
March 19, 2024 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #2270257RockyParticipantIf you are interested, I can send you pictures of myself each day so you can see what I am wearing. I have been told that I am the biggest trendsetter around.
For glasses, I recommend going on a site site like Zenni or googles4u and paying a fraction of the price. You could spend $500 to $1,000 for a piece of wire or you could spend $20-$50 but hey that’s up to you (Feel free to translate that in quid)
March 19, 2024 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #2270277LostsparkParticipantChaBaD bochurim dress way cooler than the yeshivish crowd. Make sure to get some blundstone boots, a Borsolino with the gold logo on the ribbon and some tortoise shell warby Parker glasses.
March 19, 2024 4:47 pm at 4:47 pm #2270313englisherpotzParticipantThank you guys! Keep em coming!
You may actually be right about Chabad but I don’t cross paths with too many, the harry/yeshivish/cool Lakewood crew are cool enough for me.
Brother Rocky, thanks for the info, will check out, would love to see pics.
March 19, 2024 4:51 pm at 4:51 pm #2270317RockyParticipantLospsark_ You can’t be serious. Whatever effort you put into your boots, glasses and hat is ruined when the shirt is half way untucked, and the hat is smashed. Only Slabodka legacy yeshivos have the market on style.
Honestly, if you you want to check out what is in, just walk into any Mesivta in Lakewood, and take some notes. You will find eveyone wearing the exact same thing. If you are so bold you can say “hey dude, nice…. where did you get them?”
March 19, 2024 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #2270339LostsparkParticipantHaha that’s the crowd that wears the brim up hats as far as they possibly can in the back of their heads?!?
I never got that trend, every time I’m in a yeshivish environment the young guys are wearing thier hats literally on the back of their heads, it’s a marvel that they stay on.
March 19, 2024 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #2270347ujmParticipantDear EnglisherPolished: I was wondering if you could help me understand some of the terminologies you threw around in your OP:
1. Why do you think Americans look down on the English? I’ve always had the impression Englishmen are looked upon with sophistication.
2. What are a couple of prominent examples of what you refer to as “most good things come from America”?
3. Can you define in simpler terms what a “circus tent” hat is?
4. Please share what are Cole Hann shoes, Swiss shoes, what is the difference between them and what are Lululemon pants and how they’re different than non-Lululemon pants.
Thank you in advance for the education.
March 19, 2024 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #2270357englisherpotzParticipantDear UJM
I mamesh love you.
1) The only thing that people like about English are our accents, you know when I’m in arzei and this lady asks me directions and then throws out how she loves my English accent. But it’s only those kav people who think that we are actually sophisticated. And by the way, I actually think that a lot of Americans are better spoken than English.
Why do I think you look down on us? Well, clearly not you and when I go to America everyone is super nice but it is more in the American matsav in Israel, there they are not so interested in English coming in and wreaking havoc. I also think that once too many English guys start coming to a American Yeshiva. I’ve also had some disparaging remarks made more than once, but no worries, I still love Americans.
2) Yeshivos, money, tzedaka, music, chessed etc. etc. etc.
3) A circus tent hat are those massive hats that some people still insist on wearing. If you are lucky enough to have a shver and he’s over sixty, he might be wearing one.
4) Cole Hann shoes are what I have on my feet. Swiss are the shoes which look like sneakers (trainers in my language) and have a “q” and epes maybe a “c” printed on the side, and Lululemon are what is now in the UPS delivery depot, I missed the delivery twice, but they are an overpriced pants (trousers) which are actually really cool and stunning fabric and the cool guys wear them.
You should be gezunt un shtark!
March 19, 2024 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #2270359englisherpotzParticipantOkay, I really don’t want to moitzie laaz on the entire Jewish English community, them do not wreak havoc and all the rest…just if you are in a sort of American matsav, often the English are looked a bit…I dunno but I’m sure there are some people who know what I mean.
And Rocky, tell me how I can follow you, you are about to become my new rebbi
March 20, 2024 2:39 am at 2:39 am #2270484ujmParticipantDear EnglisherPolished: Is it at all plausible that all of which you speak may, at best, only be applicable to what might be referred to as the “modern Yeshivish”, to the exclusion of, perhaps, what you might call the “shpitz Yeshivish”?
March 20, 2024 8:20 am at 8:20 am #2270528englisherpotzParticipantFirst of all: my name is Enlisherpotz. If you want to know what that is you’ll have to come live in England for a few years and you’ll find out all too well.
Second of all: Yeah, you are probably right, I don’t mean the shpitz yeshivish
March 20, 2024 9:33 am at 9:33 am #2270564englisherpotzParticipantI went to the optician today, really overbearing woman, claims that plastic are in now and insists that I can’t get too big.
What your thoughts? I want to get massive metal, this was a non jewish optician, no jewish ones where I live
March 20, 2024 10:22 am at 10:22 am #2270591commonsaychelParticipanti Friends
What do you think about this?
I don’t want to give too much details to protect the innocent and the guilty, but suffice to say, I’m in Yeshiva (different shmuz) and I’m trying to study on the side and I need money so I found this remote job working for this guy.
B”H he is a really nice guy (cannot be said at all about some other people I have had the displeasure of working for) and very easy and flexible.
While the work is not that stimulating, I don’t dislike the work.
Problem is payment; we wrote up an agreement and he promised me extremely generous commision for the projects we are working on and I thought that I’d be rolling. The only thing is that nothing at all went through and a few months later I’d still not made a penny.
I sent him a nice email asking him if he’d pay me and he was very nice about it and he paid me a super basic salary for the hours I’d worked, but it seemed from him that it was more like a one-off and he still believes that we’ll make money and all that.
So, while I’m writing this all out, it is becoming more and more obvious to me as it probably is to you that I should probably wish him a lechitigeh tumid and a freilichen peerim, problem is, I’m quite a nice guy and something just fell through and I don’t want him to think that I’m leaving him because of that but the truth is, without giving details, it seemed to me that if any of all the projects we were working on would work out, it would be that one and when that fell through I realised that he does not seem to have much mazal.
I don’t know him personally but he seems to be older and he’s definitely tzefloigen and not very savvy so I’m not very optimistic about anything working out that amazingly going forward.
Also, these things are long term projects and it’ll take a long time for money to come through and either way, I don’t plan on hanging around.
I don’t want to ask him for a regular salary because that’ll make it harder for me to leave and he may not want to, I’d rather work another two months and then ask him for another payment.
I’ve also lost all cheishek for the job.
I really want to leave yeshiva and go back and work and get married, but at the moment I’m stuck in yeshiva, I also feel that had I not been working up for him I would have been able to go veiter with my studying…though I also need money for my studying…
Problem also is that in my situation it is close to impossible to find a job at all, I worked for another business, dishonest people…not nice people to work for…at least this guy is not unpleasant to work for but I mamish feel that I’m wasting my time.
The reason I’m feeling resistant is because my other options are non-existent and I’m desperate for money. Even though I’m not really making any money and I’m wasting time working for him when I could be studying or even learning maybe a bit ( 🫨what??? nisht tzugloiben)
Also, I lack backbone and I find it hard to go ahead even though I know it’s the right thing, and I also feel bad.
Thank you for listening. This has really been therapeutic and writing it out has really clarified things for me.
I would appreciate thoughts, empathy and job offers 😀
March 20, 2024 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #2270839LostsparkParticipantCommon you should spend even more time, even doubling your time learning and the issue will resolve itself.
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