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  • #601195
    Duggie
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    Ok- I’m sorry but this was WAY over the line.

    NBC and YBC. They may rhyme, but they have no business being on TV- what in the world? It is Jewish music, little Jewish boys, and it’s cuz jewish music is SUPPOSED TO MAKE US SEPERATE from the goyim. It’s OUR music, not THEIRS and has no business being on TV.

    yeshiva boys choir and NBC do not mix- what in the world????!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    Why is everyone trying to be the next one-hit-wonders like ‘candlelight’? Is this what jewish music is about? trying to be viral on youtube or get a spot on a TV show? there is a reason why there is such a concept of jewish music, and I feel like since ‘candlelight’ everything has gone so downhill.

    Agree? I want to hear.

    #836289
    Sam2
    Participant

    If Goyim like what Jews do is that a problem? What makes Jewish music special is that it’s appropriate and follows Halacha. Being on Youtube or TV won’t change that. It’s the best Pirsumei Nisa possible and it’s a Kiddush Hashem that is viewable to the whole world. How can you complain about that?

    #836290
    WIY
    Member

    Duggie

    I was going to start such a thread myself. You beat me to it. Its very very wrong and I think a Chillul Hashem.

    How can you put yeshiva boys on tv? (Not to mention that many of these boys had to probably miss yeshiva for this)

    I really hope that some Rabbanim address this. The music business is literally like a runaway train. They do what they want and there’s no Daas Torah involved.

    There’s no way any Rav would have allowed this.

    This isn’t kiruv. This is Yavan. This is Hashem telling us, you want to be like goyim? Go ahead I won’t stop you. How apropo that this occurred the week of Chanukah.

    For anyone who wants to dismiss it with a wave of the hand, don’t you SEE what is happening?! Every time something happens we dismiss it with a wave of he hand. We keep falling and keep making excuses why its ok or not a big deal. Its not ok and it is a big deal and I think this is a huge eye opener of where Jewish music is headed and what is the intentions of the people behind YBC the producers…they want fame and glory. Look how proud they are to be on TV. Its mamsih disgusting.

    This is what happens when you produce music that idolizes goyish music and try to get the goyish rocky techno disco sounds.

    #836291
    Duggie
    Member

    To sam2;

    and appropriate is being on TV???? To me that does not follow what constitutes Jewish, separate music.

    you know how it goes, first they embrace us and then it’s a knife in the back. I know i just made a little ybc show on tv extremely melodramatic but this is how it starts.

    As I’ve said before on CR I love candlelight, and do think it is a kiddush Hashem to have the world view us in a better light. what I don’t like is all of these music videos competing to get viral and be and tv etc.. don’t get me wrong- I love all of them, and have seen all of them and like ’em all just like the next guy, it’s just principle of the matter.

    #836292
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Just a thought. Perhaps if people would pay for music instead of copying it from their friends and family, groups like YBC wouldn’t have to reach out beyond their core target audience to try and generate interest in their music.

    #836293
    Macherish
    Member

    NOT A KIDDUSH HASHEM WHATSOEVER!!! Im sorry, but this is WAAAAAY over the top!!! What are they thinking?!!?!?!

    #836294
    tzaddiq
    Member

    Duggie -that’s how i felt precisely. i turned to my wife and said, what’s next?

    you said it first. this is just the beginning, who knows what this will spiral into. i hope it stops right here. i hope.

    #836295
    Anonym613
    Participant

    Actually, the TV show was on CBS, not NBC.

    But I agree with everyone who is against this performance.

    It does not belong on TV.

    #836296
    apushatayid
    Participant

    I tried to google this appearance on NBC. Are you sure you dont mean FOX?

    #836297
    passfan
    Member

    Can someone please explain what these abbreviations (nbc, cbs, fox) refer to?

    #836298
    ✡onegoal™
    Participant

    I found it a little weird that they were on television. It was a big mistake that they will probably pay for.

    #836300
    Sam2
    Participant

    Can someone give an actual Halachic and non-emotional reason for being opposed to this? Until you can, why are you criticizing this?

    #836301
    yentingyenta
    Participant

    i thought it was on CBS

    cbs-central broadcastng stations

    nbc-national broadcasting corp

    #836302

    Yenta, CBS stands for Columbia Broadcasting System

    #836303
    apushatayid
    Participant

    FOX as in well, FOX. I watched a clip of YBC on FOX 5 NY. Perhaps they are making the rounds of all networks?

    #836304
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I just found the video on youtube and there was nothing wrong with it.

    What about the Persume Nissa. Imagine a secular jew watching this , and the only holiday songs he knows are related to christmas and now he sees a bunch of jewish boys singing about Chanukah.

    Now he feels good about lighting the Menorah and maybe doesnt put up his Chanukah Bush this year.

    If one person did not put up a Chanukah Bush beause of this appearence it was One thousand times persume nissa than a Menorah on 13th Ave

    #836305
    yentingyenta
    Participant

    Oh. My mistake.

    #836306
    littleapple
    Member

    Sorry, but we would need a Mordechai to tell us this was an Achashverosh party and chillul H’ lacking that although I did not see it just how do you know it is not a kiddush H’? Have you forgotten or perhaps you are not aware of how badly and deeply our Father in heaven misses the millions of children who are trapped in non jewish mind sets and who this kind of thing just might touch in a good way through the medium they have access to? In Eretz Yisrael Hidabroot has a tv channel that broadcasts 24/6 and results in a spreading of Torah and teshuva, they would like to expand here as well.

    #836307
    real-brisker
    Member

    Mods – Peerimsameach, Duggie = :::Half::: – Troll

    #836308
    Duggie
    Member

    huh?

    #836309
    Duggie
    Member

    yoysh I’m so confused…….

    #836310

    What’s the big deal…A lot of fear mongering, a lot of people calling it wrong, a lot of people who aren’t backing up their statements with a clear halachic argument on why it’s wrong…and saying it goyish or it’s just wrong is not good enough….

    #836311
    Duggie
    Member

    Sometimes things are wrong even if it is not explicitly written in halacha, the spirit of the law, people call it.

    I’m not a halachic expert so I have no idea which halacha it is but at the end of the day, the whole thing is fishy.

    #836312
    YBC rocks
    Member

    so there thats why they did it

    #836313
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    FYI YBC not all the Holiday songs on the Radio are christmas songs, The Adam Sandler hannukah Song is played almost as much as Santa Claus is coming to town

    I dont know if they play Matisyahu Miracle on the radio alot..

    #836314
    Jothar
    Member

    The song itself was meant to be somewhat secular- it is about someone who used to celebrate hannukah but no longer does. If it works to get people sentimental about hannukah, kol hakavod. But the song isn’t geared for frum people.

    #836315
    cinderella
    Participant

    I’m with Sam2 and zahavasdad on this one. What makes it a Chillul Hashem? It’s a Kiddush Hashem and Pirsumei Nisa.

    #836316
    kapusta
    Participant

    I didn’t understand the live performance thing, or why 50,000 views made it a viral but other than that I thought it was great.

    (As for the taking off thing, maybe they had younger kids who don’t have school on Sunday?)

    *kapusta*

    #836317
    passfan
    Member

    Boys that age have Yeshiva on Sunday.

    #836318
    cinderella
    Participant

    Seriously?? You care about the fact that they missed school?

    #836319
    ✡onegoal™
    Participant

    RB- You really think so? I can hear Duggie, but Peerimsameach?

    #836320
    passfan
    Member

    cinderella: Missing Yeshiva means missing Limud Torah. What is the justification for skipping Limud Torah?

    #836321
    gefen
    Participant

    Um – sounds like a lot of you who are so against this, actually saw it on TV! do you have TV? why is that ok- and ybc singing one song not ok?

    #836322
    real-brisker
    Member

    onegoal – Yup.

    #836323
    plumba
    Member

    Am I the only person here terribly bothered by the inherent lashon hora contained in both the original comment and in the comments? Even if it is wrong, what toeles is there in discussing this? This is a mans parnassa you are adversly affecting!!!

    #836324
    yentingyenta
    Participant

    gefen, matzav had it on their website yesterday. thats where i saw it.

    #836325
    cherrybim
    Participant

    What’s next, chassidic Chazzanim appearing with symphony orchestras with women musicians in way untzniusdic low cut sleeveless dresses?

    Hey y’all; get a life and enjoy. The kids were terrific and they don’t need your yapping off. They work hard and we shep nachas.

    #836326
    Think first
    Member

    If u don’t understand what’s wrongs with what they did the fire inside u has got to reignited!!!

    #836327
    cinderella
    Participant

    passfan- I don’t think it’s that big a deal.

    And if you’re so concerned about Bitul Torah, why are you here? Get off your computer and go learn.

    #836328
    passfan
    Member

    You seriously think skipping Yeshiva for a choir or TV show is no big deal?

    #836329
    koillel101
    Member

    I’m surprised at how many of the parents allowed their sons to go on the show. I really don;t think its appropriate.

    #836330
    commonsense
    Participant

    first of all, no is complaining about the video or the song they are complaining that these boys were performing them on television. This song is geared to a religious audience because YBC sell pretty exclusively to the frum world and usually does not try to market to the outside world.

    Personally I highly agree with all those who think it was inappropriate to have these yiddeshe neshomalach perform on live TV.

    #836334
    mylogic37
    Participant

    What makes you think they missed yeshiva? Look at the video. It was 7:55AM when they did their bit. So lets say they finished at 8:05. All they need to do is go back to Brooklyn from Manhattan. At worst they were a few minutes late to Yeshiva!! All of you seriously need to get a life and stop hating everyone and anything that you do not agree with.

    #836335
    oomis
    Participant

    Personally, I think it’s great for the public to see well-dressed menschlech kids who are not doing drugs, who are not walking, talking or singing like bums, representing Yeshivah youth in a musical rendition of OUR winter chag.

    #836336
    Mayan_Dvash
    Participant

    Why are you complaining? You have a problem with YBC going on a morning show on TV? If that’s where you “set the bar” why do you even watch TV?

    ;

    #836337
    cherrybim
    Participant

    Hey, hypocrites! The Internet, which you are on right this minute, is infinitely worse than a frum boys group on TV. The same goes for most cell phones. You are wasting more time with your blogs complaining than the nine year old kid’s batala.

    #836338
    TheGoq
    Participant

    Oomis +1

    #836339
    passfan
    Member

    If “X” and “Y” are both bad, if someone does one of the bad things he cannot point out that the other thing is bad?

    If someone smokes cigerettes he cannot point out smoking marijuana is bad? Or even moreso, a smoker can’t tell a non-smoker that smoking itself is bad??

    #836340
    Bowwow
    Participant

    I think it’s refreshing to see jews in the media without being associated with Bernie Madoff, illegally segregated bus lines, welfare fraud…. list keeps going

    #836341
    Mayan_Dvash
    Participant

    passfan, in your case it’s the pot smoker saying that cigarettes are bad.

    ;

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