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Say you have an item, like beer or gin, that doesn’t require a hechsher, but one company chooses to get one anyway. Now, say the hechsher they voluntarily get is a non-trusted one like triangle K or tablet K. Would you buy it? Or would you refrain from buying it even if you would normally buy it without a hechsher?
Like water?
Anyways, why is this even a question if you use of without any hecsher?
What is the problem?
Is it supporting a non-reliable hechsher?
Is it Maarit Eyin by having a non-reliable hechsher in the house people may be misled?
Or is there another problem?
“one company chooses to get one anyway”
I would look into why they chose to get one anyway. Companies dont pay for something they dont need. It could be they are adding ingredients that make it an exception to the general rule of “not needing”, or perhaps the manufacturing or bottling process is the cause of a required hechsher, in which case the one they chose is not reliable for you. On the other hand, they might think it “hip” to have a hechsher on the bottle as a marketing ploy to indicate things like “quality” in which case who cares what they put on the bottle label. If this is a serious question, give it the consideration something as serious as kashrus deserves. If you are merely draying a kup then have fun.
Eg. Triangle K being too lenient when it comes to meat or wine does not necessarily have any weight on their ability to certify potato chips
I agree that some products are less problematic than others, but I think there is a relationship between reliability for meat and potato chips. There have been potato chips produced on the same equipment as pork rinds, with a “hechsher”.
Companies dont pay for something they dont need. It could be they are adding ingredients that make it an exception to the general rule of “not needing”, or perhaps the manufacturing or bottling process is the cause of a required hechsher
I don’t think one needs to be choshesh for that on a product which doesn’t require a hechsher. The kashrus symbol is a marketing tool.
It would make me check again if something changed that required a hechsher.
I drink Vintage seltzer. Is there anyone here that wouldn’t, but would drink seltzer with no hechsher (unflavored is said to not require one)?
“As far as I know, it’s entirely unnecessary for them to have it”
why do you assume this? they brew a number of “craft” and “small batch” specialty beers too. why not see what the star k themselves has to say about kashrus of beer. http://www.star-k.org/articles/kashrus-kurrents/2183/beer-halacha-clarifying-the-kashrus-of-beer/
I wouldn’t call a hechsher on beer “entirely unnecessary”. There are some potentially problematic additives which could be (and in some microbreweries, have been) added. True, the agencies all say that domestic unflavored beers from large breweries are fine, and they are right; achazukei issur lo mechazkinan. However, since things can and do change, I think it’s a maaleh to have a hechsher.
beers in america made do require a hechsher because they often add a treif ingredient to make a head. european brewers never add anything to their beers. its against the law to put in anything besides malt and hops and water.
beers in america made do require a hechsher because they often add a treif ingredient to make a head.
Which ingredient is that? I’m fairly certain that you are either (i) wrong, or (ii) saying something as fact that is actually a minority opinion.
european brewers never add anything to their beers. its against the law to put in anything besides malt and hops and water.
And yeast. And a bazillion other additivis, like isinglas.
I think (ii).
(Kosher is a serious marketing point, in case anyone doesn’t know.)
Is there a good reason for bottled water to have a hechsher?
Where have you heard the Domestic beers need a Hechsheer?
I dont think Budweiser or Michelob has one and Ive seen them at Rebbes Tishes (and I mean real Yeshivish ones, not a YCT one)
Joseph, I have heard that there is a reason for bottled water to have a hechsher. Companies sometimes process the water on machinery that is also used to process milk.
Does that mean that it might be preferable for one to avoid water without a hechsher?
“Triangle K being too lenient when it comes to meat or wine”
While all national hashgachos have had major kashrus mishaps, this has never happened to the Triangle K; and no one has ever been able to trip them up. Enough with the motzi shem rah!
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