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Why not this one too?
I forgot, who was it?
that is a good point,
why do people call their sons Noach, if he’s not painted in a good light
coffee addict
Noach was a Tzaddik as the Torah testifies, ?? ??? ????, ???? ??? ??????.
The Torah doesnt cover up the sins of the righteous, as we see by Noach, by Moshe and Aharon and others.
hehe, no question ’bout it. Zeide Noach started it. I think I’m his gilgul, but that remains to be further investigated. It’s just these crazy habits I have. Besides the booze of course. Cravings for trips to the zoo, building boats with my kid’s lego and klicks, and paper ones too. And I ALWAYS walk outdoors with an umbrella…
ZK- on the bottom floor of course, beneath Oscar’s room (my pet rhino)
wiy,
thats only according to one pshat, the other was its not so hard to be a tzaddik in a generation full of reshaimm
coffee addict
Thats not exactly what Rashi says, what he says is that if he was in Avrahams generation he wouldnt have been considered of any importance, ??? ???? ??? ????, ???? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?? ??? ???? ?????.
Theres no question that he was a fine person the question is was he a big Tzaddik. He definitely wasnt a bad guy or not so good.
One ????? doesn’t make a ???? into a ???.
i thought this was a thread about baalhabooze’s family tree. lol.
WIY,
I don’t see a difference between what you’re saying and what I’m saying.
In any event I have a lot of people in the Torah that weren’t tzaddikim or reshaim yet we don’t name kids after them (or better yet they were tzaddikim)
In all seriousness, Noachs comparative assessment still sets him light years away from anyone alive in the last few millennia. Noach, even if less than Avraham, still walked where we can only dream. Noach conversed with God himself, Noach was the single person that God chose to be the originator of every human being on this earth. To even facetiously suggest that he was just some old alcoholic is insulting the one who chose him to start off his world. Lot, a confirmed ‘bad guy’ was still graced with an Angelic visit which just demonstrates that even with all his bad, he was leagues ahead of us, the worst that there is to say about Noach is that he might not have been number one in Avrahams world. Please be cautious when mocking the great people of our history.
yeshivish,
im just wondering why we name kids after him?
Because he was an ish tzaddik? Because he walked tomim with hashem? Because he’s the father of everyone on earth?
Because he’s the father of everyone on earth?
that’s possibly the reason, since I’ve heard of people named Adam
They’re both the father of everyone on earth!
coffee addict
from Shemayisrael dot com
In a homily on Parshas Vaera regarding the erosion of religious commitment as a result of overwhelming torture and suffering, the Piazcesner Rebbe, zl, gives the following explanation. He first cites the phrase from Tefillas Shacharis which we recite daily: V’sitneinu l’chein, u’l’chesed u’lerachamim, “Grant us today and every day grace, loving-kindness, and mercy in Your eyes.” We first seek grace, because grace is granted without regard to individual merit. V’Noach matzah chein, “Noach found grace/favor in the eyes of Hashem.”
I think we all want our children to find chein in the eyes of Hashem!
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