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June 6, 2011 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #597298TheGoqParticipant
I was in a bagel shop recently and the slogan on the stores cups and bags said “the best kosher bagel shop in the world”, is this allowed? i would be highly doubtful that this owner has eaten in every kosher bagel shop in the world and as such it is very likely false advertising, it’s all well and good to be proud of the business that you run, but to have such hubris in claiming that no one does it as well as you do is boastful.
June 6, 2011 3:53 pm at 3:53 pm #775231Pac / ManMemberAgreed!
June 6, 2011 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #775232bombmaniacParticipantwas tha bagel any good? 😛
June 6, 2011 4:04 pm at 4:04 pm #775233TheGoqParticipantit happens to be a very good bagel store
June 6, 2011 4:07 pm at 4:07 pm #775234am yisrael chaiParticipantnow bomb’s subtitle should be teh=tha=the 🙂
June 6, 2011 4:08 pm at 4:08 pm #775235bptParticipantThat’s because you’re taking it global instead of personal.
Think: B’shvili nivrah olam, so in “your” world, that is THE best bagel!
Or: Kol hamikayaim nefesh acah b’yisroel.. k’ilu olam kulo. The person you bought that bagel for could have been challishing for a bagel, and by coming thru, you saved the “world”
(See how much you can accomplish for 80 cents?)
June 6, 2011 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #775236WolfishMusingsParticipantDo you likewise have similar complaints against Chock Full of Nuts since they don’t really know if their coffee is served in Heaven.
Have the folks at Maxwell House really tasted every drop?
Do you have complaints against Coca Cola since I highly doubt they truly wanted to buy the world a Coke?
Do you have complaints about the Army since they advertise “Be All You Can Be” when there are things you cannot be if you join the Army (a civilian, for one)?
How about Exxon since they obviously don’t put a tiger in your tank?
Or John Deere, because I’m pretty sure that other things do, indeed, run like a Deere?
I have yet to hear a cat ask for “Meow Mix.” Yet they say cats ask for it by name. Do you have similar anger towards them?
Contrary to what Morton Salt says, it does not always pour when it rains.
Do all (or even most) champions really eat Wheaties for Breakfast?
Or is it possible that a certain amount of hyperbole is acceptable in advertising?
The Wolf
June 6, 2011 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #775237☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantit happens to be a very good bagel store
Who knows? Maybe the best in the world!
June 6, 2011 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #775238I can only tryMemberThe Gemorah specifically says that when a seller swears he won’t sell for under two, and the buyer swears he won’t pay more than one, the sale may take place for $1.50.
Even though they both are violating their oaths, it was understood that this was just normal mekach u’memchar hyperbole.
This type of advertising seems to fall within the same understanding – it’s understood to be hype, not a factual statement.
(p.s. I don’t recall the actual amounts in the Gemorah)
June 6, 2011 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #775239BSDMemberWolf-LOL! How about America runs on Duncan donuts or Top of the World Cleaners?
June 6, 2011 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #775240Pac-ManMemberWolf, yes, there is a taaina against those too.
June 6, 2011 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #775241☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWolf,
I do think that we, as Torah Jews, should have a higher standard (but your post gave me a chuckle).
June 6, 2011 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #775242real-briskerMemberThe Goq – Were you fooled by it?
June 6, 2011 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #775243minyan galMemberWolf – I am really dating myself, but here goes. If you have a lot of hair do you really think that just a “little dab” of Brylcream will “do ya?” And does Bosco really give you energy and sunshine vitamin C? And does Kraft peanut butter really stay fresher in the jar than peanuts in the shell? I think not.
June 7, 2011 2:13 am at 2:13 am #775244I can only tryMemberThe Gemoroh is actually the first mishna in the third perek of Nedarim.
It states that four types of neder don’t even need a shailoh asked, but can be “broken” without any violation.
One of those is a “neder zairuzin” – a neder made to pressure someone to hurry up and deal.
The case given is that the seller makes a neder that he won’t sell for less than four, and the buyer makes a neder that he won’t pay more than two. It’s explained that since each really meant a price of three was acceptable, they can make the deal.
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