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  • #665230
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Good job NY Mom!!

    #665231
    NY Mom
    Member

    Thanks for the support, SJS 🙂

    #665232
    question
    Member

    3 cheers for ny mom!

    #665233
    question
    Member

    in many heimishe stores in boro park there are signs hanging in the dressing room (from bnos melachim i believe) very nicely reminding the buyer to check if the item they are trying on is truly tzniusdig. i recall one sign reminding you to sit down to make sure the skirt covers your knees at all times.

    #665234
    NY Mom
    Member

    question: Thank you and welcome to the CR! Enjoy!

    Yes, I have seen those signs too. If I recall, they also remind you to have in mind that you are fulfilling the mitzvah of tznius when you are buying a tzniusdike garment.

    #665235
    yoshi
    Member

    NY Mom, That is seriously awesome, You are an inspiration.

    #665236
    Jewess
    Member

    If this is the place to get support for trying to be tzniut, I have something to share. I know my size and I usually just buy clothes without trying them on, but today I actually tried on a dress to see if it will reach my knees. It was so pretty. Yet short. 🙁 And I didn’t buy it. I don’t plan on getting it. But it was so pretty. 🙁 I’ve bought short dresses in the past and added material to the bottom, but this wouldn’t work with the style of the dress. I really liked it. 🙁

    #665237
    neatfreak
    Member

    good for you jewess!!

    #665238
    NY Mom
    Member

    Jewess: I know that was a real nisayon and I have so much respect for you. To quote someone we know, “seriously awesome”.

    Yoshi, Thanks so much! 😉

    #665239
    haifagirl
    Participant

    Jewess, keep up the good work!

    #665240
    Jewess
    Member

    Thanks. You guys are so sweet. I’m far from a saint, but I’m trying to wear clothes as close to my knees as possible. 😉

    #665241
    NY Mom
    Member

    Jewess: May it be a zechus for you.

    #665242
    NY Mom
    Member

    Come on, ladies! Anyone else want to share their difficulties or struggles?

    You may really help others who are just reading (you lurkers know who you are!) by describing your problems and issues.

    BTW, mepal, you really made me think when you wrote about your frustrations when shopping for clothes. I am sure there are so many others that share those same feelings. I know that I do! If anyone does speak up to the shop owners about this, please let us know how that went, and what the reaction was to your comments.

    #665243

    jewess, the next step is to get rid of the 🙁 and make a 🙂 because nobody is forcing you to leave the dress on the rack, YOU made the choice, and imo you made a wise choice. You go girl!

    so you really deserve to 🙂 Be happy with your choice!

    #665244
    question
    Member

    what do you ladies feel about slinky skirts. any problems with those?

    #665245
    Bemused
    Participant

    “Come on, ladies! Anyone else want to share their difficulties or struggles?”

    Hi NY Mom,

    I don’t feel comfortable discussing these personal issues in a forum that is almost certainly read by men, so please don’t feel I (or others, if this applies to them) don’t support such an important topic and your (and others’) powerful contributions. I’m cheering all of you on in the background!

    #665246

    ya know what question, I happen to be wearing a slinky skirt right now – and asked myself the same question this morning.

    It is safe to assume that the answer at least for me is yes. Is this skirt tziusdik? I think so – Do I look professional to go to the office? I think so –

    My skirt while slinky is not so form fitting and clingy, and yet not so loose to look sloppy.

    Before I worry so much about the clothes I wear I had to get more comfortable in my own skin, ya know? I also don’t care anymore about what the other women in the community are wearing.

    #665247
    neatfreak
    Member

    i personally find 2 problems with slinky skirts. i do have a friend that has a slinky type skirt, however, it is made from a thicker material ( though still light weight) and therefore doesnt hang the same way or stretch out so fast.

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    #665248
    NY Mom
    Member

    question: If you are talking about the long straight stretchy skirts (often black), it really depends on how it fits you. As any other article of clothing, if it’s too tight, of course there is an issue. If it’s looser-fitting, I have no problem with them.

    #665250
    NY Mom
    Member

    Hi Bemused! Thank you for your post!

    I do know there are others out there who, while they may not contribute themselves, appreciate and gain from this thread. I was getting a little lonely, though, and I don’t want to be the only one writing, because then it may seem that this is a one-woman deal.

    So thanks again for speaking up!

    #665251
    NY Mom
    Member

    Mod 80: I really would like if this thread could remain open. Have we written anything improper here?

    #665252

    Nothing intrinsically improper, but what is proper for a group of women, is not necessarily proper when a group of men are onlookers.

    I don’t even want to write this, but do you really want men reading about how clingy skirts are clinging more in this area than that? I really don’t think so.

    #665253

    As a male, and one who is forced to read the posts here in order to keep things proper, I am beginning to feel quite uncomfortable about a discussion that should be open to women readers only.

    I am going to close this thread, unless there are serious objections to this by a number of female posters. If it does stay open, I will no longer moderate it but will leave it to the other moderators.

    I really do think it should be closed though, useful as it is. The other males here should not be reading this.

    #665254
    NY Mom
    Member

    Looking back, I can see what you may have been talking about, Mod 80. Maybe some of us are being a little too specific in our terminology. I am trying very hard to use discreet language when describing things in this sensitive area.

    Ladies: Maybe we can all make an effort to be a little more circumspect in our language? Would that help?

    #665255

    That would help

    Still I would like to hear what others think.

    #665256
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Mod80, I would leave it open. This thread already inspired some better tznius. Arent there any female mods? If not, time to hire one! Also maybe change the title to read women only?

    #665257

    Very glad to hear it!

    There are female mods but that would not solve the problem of the thousands of males who frequent these forums (only a very few actually post)

    #665258
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Hmm…with a warning lik women only, that would keep the men who care out. Really, do they care about material types?

    Is that interesting to them?

    You have to understand the nature Hashem put into men.

    #665259

    If better tznius is being inspired, we’ll keep it open. The moderators will have to become more careful.

    And NY Mom (or anyone else) please email me at [email protected] if you catch something we missed.

    #665260
    tzippi
    Member

    Mod, I get it.

    It’s part of why I have little to no interest in threads such as the CR parties, etc. If I need that kind of camaraderie, input, etc. I get it from women only forums.

    #665261
    NY Mom
    Member

    Thank you, Mod 80.

    I really am grateful.

    And to quote a familiar phrase, “If I see something, I’ll say something!” – er, I mean, let you know via email.

    #665262
    Be Happy
    Participant

    Does anyone have opinions on open necks? I think it seems to be a big problem.

    #665264
    haifagirl
    Participant

    Collar bone (and everything below) should be covered.

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    #665265
    Bemused
    Participant

    I’m with Tzippi.

    Mod80, I do see things that are not appropriate for open viewing, but do not feel comfortable emailing it to you. I know my husband would be horrified to know I am discussing these things on an open forum. Is there a female mod who can serve as a contact?

    #665266
    NY Mom
    Member

    Esther: Thank you so much for bringing this up! I agree that not everyone seems to be so aware of the fact that some tops are a little too open at the collar.

    There is a handy little invention for just such a situation. It’s called a safety pin. I sometimes make use of it and it works very well! 😉

    Or sewing a stitch on either side of the collar is also a very useful trick.

    Or another possibility is a shell. IMO, that is a good use for a shell.

    #665267
    haifagirl
    Participant

    Okay. Let me rephrase that. Is the problem open collars that show the collar bone, or do you object to any buttons unbuttoned?

    #665268
    anon for this
    Participant

    NY Mom, one can also buy a dickie (blouse or turtleneck collar) to wear under tops like those.

    #665269
    NY Mom
    Member

    anon: Yes, that is true. I haven’t seen a dickey (just looked up the spelling) in a loooong time. Do they still sell them?

    Another option is buying sew-on snaps. This more applicable to button-down blouses in which the buttons are spaced too far apart or needs a little more closure at the top. You can get them in any store that sells sewing products or even at local we-sell-it-all pharmacies (like CVS or Duane Reade). It’s just a little tricky sewing it on if you’ve never done it before. The first couple of times I did it, I had to re-do for different reasons. If anyone wants any tips regarding this, I can elaborate.

    #665270
    Chops
    Member
    #665271
    Be Happy
    Participant

    You are right chops, However, keeping the top button open of a blouse may look with it but one is oiver a lav

    #665272
    Chops
    Member
    #665273
    thinking jew
    Member

    by the way a great idea for open necks is a bobby pin! you make a seam at each side and stick in a bobbby pin to hold it, I’m not sure how clear that is but if you get what i mean it’s much neater than a safety pin and it’s not a problem with getting the shirt on and off

    #665274
    Jewess
    Member

    NY Mom, I never thought of having snaps added between buttons. I usually just wear a cami under blouses that don’t stay closed.

    Estherh which “lav” are you “oiver” when keeping the top button of a blouse open. Am I “oiver” on two if I keep two buttons open?

    #665275
    haifagirl
    Participant

    If the top button is high enough, then leaving it open isn’t a problem.

    #665276
    NY Mom
    Member

    Estherh: That is a new one for me.

    Why should it be a problem if the top button is open, as long as your collarbone is covered? I can understand if the 2nd button is not high enough and it makes the blouse too open, but if everything is covered properly, are you still saying there is an issue? For me it is sometimes uncomfortable to keep the top button closed, so that is when I get out the good old safety pin.

    #665277
    shaatra
    Member

    I think it EVERY women should wear a shell/under shirt under ANY shirt. Whether it be a blouse, t-shirt, ect. To me it seems like common sense but to others it apparently isn’t

    #665278
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    shaatra, why? Even a turtleneck?

    #665279

    Before I went to seminary, I sewed snaps on almost all my shirts. It made things so much easier – I still wore a shell, but I didn’t have to worry about my collar bones.

    Since safety pins are annoying, my new “shtick” now is a necklace – (only works for a collared shirt) underneath the collar – closes off the top of the shirt and doesn’t look bad!! Of course you have to make sure the chain is short enough that it’s actually encircling your neck, but I think (of course, I’m biased….) it’s a very good alternative.

    #665281
    Chops
    Member

    Nobody answered me about the Lav. does anyone know what a Lav is? by the way Shaatra, how shaatra are you? do you wear double shirts while you are making kibbe?

    #665282
    shaatra
    Member

    SJS: I didn’t mean it for color bone reasons! I think ppl should wear under shirts so no one has to see your ‘undergarment’ and how big ur stomach is, and what ur belly button looks like! NOT for tzniut reasons, I am talking about goyim as well! Next time u wear ur turtle neck, put a shirt under, you’ll see how nicer you look.

    Chops: I seriously have no idea what u mean. Please explain your self

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