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    oilyhair
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    i was wondering if this would be allowed. I found a nice, normal, black crewneck sweater that looked good and fit well but is for men. The reason why i really would like to wear mens sweaters is because the cuts are generally more boxy, making it more tznius. Also, because im planning on wearing crewnecks with blouses underneath, mens sweaters are better because their small neck looks better. is this a problem of beged ish? (i’m obviously speaking of something not obvious that it is for men, not like shirts which have buttons on the other side…)

    #1151573
    old man
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    It is permitted.

    Wear it in good health.

    #1151574
    Shopping613 🌠
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    Wear I live in Israel it’s extremely common. Girls sweatshirts in the malls ussually have hoods and don’t go up to large sizes versus the mens. Since a lot of schools don’t let girls wear hooded sweatshirts a lot of girls by from the mens section.

    I’m sure its fine as long as you can’t tell.

    #1151575
    akuperma
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    What’s the difference between a sweater for a male and a sweater for female? The same goes for a sweatshirt.

    #1151576
    Little Froggie
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    Ask a Shaalah from a competent Rav. Don’t rely on the two word answers you so often find here.

    #1151577
    apushatayid
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    (i’m obviously speaking of something not obvious that it is for men, not like shirts which have buttons on the other side…)

    which side? ever see the buttons on the clothing of some chassidiehe men?

    #1151578
    zogt_besser
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    there certainly are differences between the sweaters of each gender (size, shape, pattern, neckline, etc). The issue is that since a men’s sweater is actually more tznius than a women’s, perhaps the issur doesn’t apply. The gemara says the whole point of outlawing crossdressing is to promote tznius (“kedei shelo teilech bein ha’anashim”). Is it being darshinan taima d’kra to say that if you’re not breaking tznius (and fakert, strengthening it!), then it’s mutar to wear the clothing item?

    #1151579
    apushatayid
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    A woman can dress as a very tzniusdik man and vice versa. Are you suggesting it’s permitted?

    #1151580
    yehudayona
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    Are women allowed to wear chassidishe men’s shirts (which button on the same side as women’s shirts)? What about chassidishe women?

    #1151581

    A woman can dress as a very tzniusdik man and vice versa.

    I’m pretty sure men are not allowed to dress

    as women, no matter how tniyusdik the clothing is,

    and the same goes for women.

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