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    chaplaintzvi
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    Has anyone heard of women not saying hallel on chanukah when they daven all the rest of davening. I thought they did say hallel

    #1116459
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    It’s not obligatory for women. It is discussed by the Sefardic Poskim because they don’t say a Bracha on a non-obligatory Hallel.

    #1116461
    theprof1
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    Hallel is a mitzvo she’hazman gromoh and isn’t required of women. Daily davening is required.

    #1116462
    Meno
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    theprof1

    Why is daily davening required?

    #1116463
    rabbiofberlin
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    theprof1 -and meno- although it is true that “praying” is required even for women, the “seder hatefillah’ that we use is not. A woman can acquit herself of this obligation by just asking or “rachmei shomayim”. Hence, actual “davening” is pretty much like hallel.

    #1116464
    golfer
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    Meno, women have a chiyuv Tefillah. They don’t have the obligation to daven 3 tefillos b’zmanom like men. They do have an obligation to express shevach (praise), hoda’a (thankfulness) and bakasha (request). How they fulfill this obligation is something that not everybody agrees on. Some may consider a woman taking care of small children patur from all but the most minimal obligation, but she still has to daven daily. It would be wise for you, if you’re asking lma’aseh and not just out of curiousity, to learn the relevant Halachos.

    #1116465
    WolfishMusings
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    Hallel is a mitzvo she’hazman gromoh and isn’t required of women

    So what? There are lots of time-bound positive mitzvos that women are not required to do and yet, if they do decide to do them, they recite the bracha.

    The Wolf

    #1116466
    Sam2
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    Why is Hallel Zman Grama?

    #1116467
    Joseph
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    Wolf, why are you changing the topic? The OP asked a question and theprof answered it with the quote you cited. There’s nothing to challenge.

    #1116468
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    ROB, that’s a machlokes, and not the basic halachah according to Mishnah B’rurah.

    Sam, because it’s not said every day (or at night).

    Wolf, for Ashkenazim, but not for Sefardim.

    #1116469
    rabbiofberlin
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    DaasYochid: Shulchan aruch,orach chaim, siman 106, and -as you said- mishne berurah se’if koton 4. You are right to point out the different views, based on the Rambam and the Ramban. However, I must tell you that this minhag for women to “daven’ regular tefillos every day is new. In Europe-certainly, to my knowledge- women did not “daven” on a regular daily basis. On shabbos, when they went to shul, yes but not on the weekdays.

    #1116470
    Matan1
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    Why would anyone not want to sing praise to Hashem on Chanukkah?

    #1116471
    Sam2
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    DY: Not being every day doesn’t define Zman Grama. The night thing is interesting, but I’m not sure why Hallel has to Davka be during the day.

    If you hold like the Rishonim that Hallel is D’oraisa, then it really shouldn’t be Zman Grama.

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    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    The Gemara uses both definitions for tefillin.

    #1116473
    screwdriverdelight
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    Sam2, who holds it’s MiD’oraisa? There are rishonim who say it’s MiDivrei Kabbalah, but who says MiD’oraisa?

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