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February 10, 2011 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #594910miritchkaMember
We just bought window guards and I’m very nervous to install them cuz they seem like fire hazards. My children are young and i dont want to take that chance of not having window guards but after a huge fire in our neighborhood where they couldnt get one family member because of bars on the windows, i am afraid to put them on…
February 10, 2011 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #739788m in IsraelMemberThey sell window guards that are easily removable by an adult or older child, but sturdy to prevent a young child from falling, for this exact reason. They are more expensive, but are probably worth the money if you have young children. (They won’t serve the purpose if you are putting up bars for security from a break in, but they are great if your concern is a child falling.)
February 10, 2011 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #739789real-briskerMemberThats one way of looking at it, but does the downside outweigh the benifets? Window guards can prevent someone from falling out of the window c”v. And also can prevent theft, which can also be dangerous.
February 10, 2011 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #739790apushatayidParticipantI dont know if this is the technical name, but when we installed window guards, we were concerned about the same thing. We bought, what the installer called a “fire department approved” window guard. they are made for buildings with a fire escape and they easily open from inside to allow someone to get out in case c”v there is a reason to get out.
I dont know if you live in NYC, but if you do this may be helpful.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/fire_prevention/fire_escape_window_gates.pdf
If outside NYC, at least this will help you if you want to change what you have.
February 10, 2011 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #739791HealthParticipantOnly get the guards that can be opened easily. Get an alarm to prevent break-ins.
February 10, 2011 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #739792bptParticipantWindow guards can easily be pried open by the FD, if chas v’sholom they need to get in. Unless you live in a basement, put the window guards on each window. Even a fall from the 1st floor 6-8 feet) can be a real trauma to a toddler, if they land head first. From the 2nd floor and higher, ask a hatzoloh member what that can mean (I don’t even want to think about it)
The horror stories you hear about are iron bars, like the ones that are all over BP. Those are a death trap. Worried about a break-in? Get insurance for $500/year. Your family’s safety is worth more than that; don’t risk the iron bars.
February 10, 2011 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #739793rescue37ParticipantI installed them in my house in all 2nd floor that needed them. They are basically installed with 4 screws to keep them in place. Any adult should be able to kick them with enough force to dislodge them in necessity. I fireman should be able to pull the off with his ax. Did you purcace actula window guards or safety guards?
February 10, 2011 9:05 pm at 9:05 pm #739794abcd2Participantyou can get strong window guards that are attached to the window but the middle bars can swing out like a door leaving the whole area open for easy escape. The bars are locked in place with a padlock and you keep the key near bye nailed onto the wall in case of emergency for a quick exit
some examples http://www.securitywindowbars.com/Window-Security-Bars/window-security-bars-expandable-removable-swing.html
(but you can get even stronger and cheaper by locksmith probably)
February 10, 2011 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #739795real-briskerMemberHealth – How does a burgular alarm prevent a break-in? The alarm only goes off AFTER the break-in.
February 11, 2011 2:28 am at 2:28 am #739796HealthParticipantRB – Actually they can. If the Ganiv has a choice between a house with an alarm and one without, guess which one he will pick.
February 11, 2011 3:54 am at 3:54 am #739797real-briskerMemberHealth – How Is a thief supposed to know if the house is alarmed or not?
February 11, 2011 3:59 am at 3:59 am #739798wanderingchanaParticipantI highly recommend these. We had these on the 2nd floor of the house we lived in when my kids were between 1-9 years old, on dormer windows with window seats.
February 11, 2011 4:02 am at 4:02 am #739799deiyezoogerMemberThats the reason they put an alarm notice on the window, to tell the intruder not to botter.
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February 11, 2011 4:28 am at 4:28 am #739800real-briskerMemberDZ – So no need to actually have an alarm, just a sign is needed.
February 11, 2011 5:16 am at 5:16 am #739801wanderingchanaParticipantI highly recommend these. We had these on the 2nd floor of the house we lived in when my kids were between 1-9 years old, on dormer windows with window seats.
February 11, 2011 6:55 am at 6:55 am #739802HealthParticipantRB – Some thieves are professional -they can tell if you have an alarm and they can tell what type and so forth.
February 11, 2011 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm #739803real-briskerMemberHealth – So only some, what about the rest? For that is why bars are needed.
February 13, 2011 6:01 am at 6:01 am #739804HealthParticipantRB -Read my first post! I didn’t say not to get bars, just to make
they open easily.
February 13, 2011 7:00 am at 7:00 am #739805always hereParticipantHealth~ from another thread.. I MUST set the record straight! my daughter was over for lunch today, & I found out she only takes her meds 2x a day.
February 13, 2011 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #739806HealthParticipantAlways – Like I posted before management of chronic pain is one of the hot topics in medicine.
In my Primary Care handbook it says “Addiction to narcotics are rare; dependence is common.”
I don’t think low doses have anything to do with this.
It also says – “Chronic back pain is treated with CBT & education & exercise & weight loss (if needed) & meds.
Meds to be considered are SSRI’s, NSAID’s, Tylenol, Tricyclics, Gabapentin, and Ultram. The last one to consider is Narcotics.”
Being that opiates have certain problems with their usage, they are only used as a last resort.
I gave you recommendations in the other post and now you have more. Please feel free to make use of them and all your family can get off the opiates (if possible).
February 13, 2011 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #739807always hereParticipantty for ur response. subrex
February 13, 2011 10:00 pm at 10:00 pm #739808HealthParticipantalways here – Did you mean Subutex, or Suboxone?
Suboxone is the one I have the most experience in.
February 13, 2011 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #739809always hereParticipantyes, sorry.. writing fast & whispering cuz I wanted to keep this hijack on the DL, but wanted 2 acknowledge ur reply. selicha. plan 2 mention this 2 my dghtr b4 her next app’t. ty again.
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