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  • #594910
    miritchka
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    We just bought window guards and I’m very nervous to install them cuz they seem like fire hazards. My children are young and i dont want to take that chance of not having window guards but after a huge fire in our neighborhood where they couldnt get one family member because of bars on the windows, i am afraid to put them on…

    #739788
    m in Israel
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    They sell window guards that are easily removable by an adult or older child, but sturdy to prevent a young child from falling, for this exact reason. They are more expensive, but are probably worth the money if you have young children. (They won’t serve the purpose if you are putting up bars for security from a break in, but they are great if your concern is a child falling.)

    #739789
    real-brisker
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    Thats one way of looking at it, but does the downside outweigh the benifets? Window guards can prevent someone from falling out of the window c”v. And also can prevent theft, which can also be dangerous.

    #739790
    apushatayid
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    I dont know if this is the technical name, but when we installed window guards, we were concerned about the same thing. We bought, what the installer called a “fire department approved” window guard. they are made for buildings with a fire escape and they easily open from inside to allow someone to get out in case c”v there is a reason to get out.

    I dont know if you live in NYC, but if you do this may be helpful.

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/fire_prevention/fire_escape_window_gates.pdf

    If outside NYC, at least this will help you if you want to change what you have.

    #739791
    Health
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    Only get the guards that can be opened easily. Get an alarm to prevent break-ins.

    #739792
    bpt
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    Window guards can easily be pried open by the FD, if chas v’sholom they need to get in. Unless you live in a basement, put the window guards on each window. Even a fall from the 1st floor 6-8 feet) can be a real trauma to a toddler, if they land head first. From the 2nd floor and higher, ask a hatzoloh member what that can mean (I don’t even want to think about it)

    The horror stories you hear about are iron bars, like the ones that are all over BP. Those are a death trap. Worried about a break-in? Get insurance for $500/year. Your family’s safety is worth more than that; don’t risk the iron bars.

    #739793
    rescue37
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    I installed them in my house in all 2nd floor that needed them. They are basically installed with 4 screws to keep them in place. Any adult should be able to kick them with enough force to dislodge them in necessity. I fireman should be able to pull the off with his ax. Did you purcace actula window guards or safety guards?

    #739794
    abcd2
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    you can get strong window guards that are attached to the window but the middle bars can swing out like a door leaving the whole area open for easy escape. The bars are locked in place with a padlock and you keep the key near bye nailed onto the wall in case of emergency for a quick exit

    some examples http://www.securitywindowbars.com/Window-Security-Bars/window-security-bars-expandable-removable-swing.html

    (but you can get even stronger and cheaper by locksmith probably)

    #739795
    real-brisker
    Member

    Health – How does a burgular alarm prevent a break-in? The alarm only goes off AFTER the break-in.

    #739796
    Health
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    RB – Actually they can. If the Ganiv has a choice between a house with an alarm and one without, guess which one he will pick.

    #739797
    real-brisker
    Member

    Health – How Is a thief supposed to know if the house is alarmed or not?

    #739798
    wanderingchana
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    I highly recommend these. We had these on the 2nd floor of the house we lived in when my kids were between 1-9 years old, on dormer windows with window seats.

    http://www.safe-tots.com/window_guards.htm

    #739799
    deiyezooger
    Member

    Thats the reason they put an alarm notice on the window, to tell the intruder not to botter.

    =DZ=

    #739800
    real-brisker
    Member

    DZ – So no need to actually have an alarm, just a sign is needed.

    #739801
    wanderingchana
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    I highly recommend these. We had these on the 2nd floor of the house we lived in when my kids were between 1-9 years old, on dormer windows with window seats.

    http://www.safe-tots.com/window_guards.htm

    #739802
    Health
    Participant

    RB – Some thieves are professional -they can tell if you have an alarm and they can tell what type and so forth.

    #739803
    real-brisker
    Member

    Health – So only some, what about the rest? For that is why bars are needed.

    #739804
    Health
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    RB -Read my first post! I didn’t say not to get bars, just to make

    they open easily.

    #739805
    always here
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    Health~ from another thread.. I MUST set the record straight! my daughter was over for lunch today, & I found out she only takes her meds 2x a day.

    #739806
    Health
    Participant

    Always – Like I posted before management of chronic pain is one of the hot topics in medicine.

    In my Primary Care handbook it says “Addiction to narcotics are rare; dependence is common.”

    I don’t think low doses have anything to do with this.

    It also says – “Chronic back pain is treated with CBT & education & exercise & weight loss (if needed) & meds.

    Meds to be considered are SSRI’s, NSAID’s, Tylenol, Tricyclics, Gabapentin, and Ultram. The last one to consider is Narcotics.”

    Being that opiates have certain problems with their usage, they are only used as a last resort.

    I gave you recommendations in the other post and now you have more. Please feel free to make use of them and all your family can get off the opiates (if possible).

    #739807
    always here
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    ty for ur response. subrex

    #739808
    Health
    Participant

    always here – Did you mean Subutex, or Suboxone?

    Suboxone is the one I have the most experience in.

    #739809
    always here
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    yes, sorry.. writing fast & whispering cuz I wanted to keep this hijack on the DL, but wanted 2 acknowledge ur reply. selicha. plan 2 mention this 2 my dghtr b4 her next app’t. ty again.

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