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August 31, 2011 4:29 am at 4:29 am #599030bombmaniacParticipant
Imagine a world where you are the focal point, the leader. You are the hero who will deliver your civilization from evil. Everyone looks to you for inspiration and salvation. Where you fight epic battles against great and terrible enemies, rescuing your people from almost certain destruction. Now compare that to your real life. You wake up in the morning, rub your groggy eyes, down a quick cup of coffee, and you are out the door to work. You show up late and your boss reams you out about your constant tardiness. Your coffee spills on your favourite shirt as your secretary plops a stack of papers on your desj which require immediate attention. Your car runs out of gas on the way home and you are forced to park it and walk home. When you finally get home your wife starts nagging you about your unpaid bills, and grocery shopping and whatnot. Life can get overwhelming in the real world, and everyone needs an escape.
The internet, for many, provides an entire new society and community as an alternative to the real world. A better alternative. A better reality. Some people I have spoken to have given up on real life social interaction, and instead prefer to focus their social interactions on the internet. For many the internet literally is a second life, a place where everything is happy and pleasant and friendly at all times, with communities and societies for anyone and everyone no matter the interest or social circle. Someone who is, in real life, socially awkward and inept may, online, be the center of attention and popularity.
The purpose of this article is not to advocate the internet, nor is it a general statement concerning every user. Rather its purpose is to give people a deeper understanding of what the internet is and what its draw is. If you understand why it is so enticing then you can try and find an alternative. Perhaps all a child is looking for when they play video games is a feeling of accomplishment and fulfillment. Perhaps all the young adult in his or her twenties is looking for online is recognition of their talent or intellect. Perhaps all the person spending all their time in chatrooms and forums really needs is a friend or a shoulder to cry on. Only by understanding the internet and its allure can one ever hope to win a war against it. Suggesting that a child go play tennis or chess as an alternative is ridiculous because it completely misses the point. The child is not simply looking for a way to fill his time; he is looking for something to fill a very specific void in his life. The same holds true for many who spend hours on the internet. Simply suggesting an alternative is absolutely pointless unless that alternative addresses the reason why the person is spending so much time in the first place.
August 31, 2011 5:12 am at 5:12 am #804004HealthParticipantYou wouldn’t believe some of things I’ve seen due to ignorance.
The net provides a wealth of info/knowledge, enabling people to reject the “absolute truths” of the rumor mill.
This is the main reason that some are scared of it.
August 31, 2011 5:49 am at 5:49 am #804005bombmaniacParticipantnot exactly the point i was getting at…
August 31, 2011 5:52 am at 5:52 am #804006ronrsrMemberThe Intrnet is just a passing fad. It will soon be forgotten.
August 31, 2011 5:55 am at 5:55 am #804007CheinMemberThe point you were getting at is that another name for The Internet is The Great “Escape”.
August 31, 2011 5:56 am at 5:56 am #804008HealthParticipantBomb – That’s why it’s a blog. We all post Different opinions!
August 31, 2011 6:45 am at 6:45 am #804009bombmaniacParticipant“The Intrnet is just a passing fad. It will soon be forgotten.”
teh controversy or the internet itself?
Chein: basically. but its the reason behind teh need for escape which needs to be understood because it goes so much further than the internet. these problems are problems which must be dealt with regardless of an anti internet agenda. so many of these issues are overlooked, but thats another article for a different day. the point is that you can rail all you want about the evils of the internet, but unless you understand why a person wants to spend so much time online youre fighting a losing battle
August 31, 2011 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #804010collegegradMemberThe reason why people have the the internet despite the rabbanim ban is because you can’t function in the year 2011 without it. Yes there is plenty of bad on it but in order to run a functional business you need it.
August 31, 2011 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #804011mikehall12382Memberthis internet thing will never get off the ground…
August 31, 2011 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #804012mytakeMemberI don’t think that everyone who’s hooked on the net is necessarily looking to fill a void in their life, especially young adults. I think many of them started exploring the internet out of curiousity when it was banned. And from there on, they simply became addicted.
There’s so much entertainment available online, so it’s not hard to imagine how someone could get hooked to a point where they stop sleeping/eating/reading/socializing normally and spend most of their time online. It’s addictive and exciting enough, to take over the life of teens/young adults who had pretty okay lives.
It’s true that for many it’s an escape from real life, but I beleive that for many young web-addicts, the cause is not that complicated.
August 31, 2011 2:25 pm at 2:25 pm #804013bombmaniacParticipantnononono…that is NOT what I’m talking about. The rabbonim have since made a pshara of sorts and acknowledged that the internet is needed for business, so they allow it…providing that you have a web filter or covanent eyes installed, and still people vehemently oppose such bans. internet use among the frum world, i can guarantee you, is NOT strictly for business and anyone who thinks so is delusional. that is not to say that there are people out there who DO use it only for business, but for most i would say that its untrue. that was not the issue i was addressing and you know it.
you want proof of sorts? look at YW. (what i am about to say is in no way intended to be offensive, just to make a point) we have someone who grew up as the son of a child molester, we have me who grew up with an abusive bipolar mother, we have people who have serious issues with shidduchim, some people who are on and off the derech…do you think its any coincidence that the people who congregate here have such serious issues? no! of course not! we all come here to get away from our lives…not because our business requires us to use the internet.
August 31, 2011 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #804014bombmaniacParticipant“It’s true that for many it’s an escape from real life, but I beleive that for many young web-addicts, the cause is not that complicated.”
indeed. if you noticed i never referred to all internet users.
August 31, 2011 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #804015MiddlePathParticipantbomb, what a well-written, informative, and absolutely true essay you’ve got here. Many people tend to focus on the negative aspects of the internet without trying to focus on what’s positive and amazing about it. I am one of those people who had to fill a void in my real life with something that would let me feel accepted, valued, and respected, and the internet has helped me with that quite a lot. I am a musician, and in the real world, I would definitely be unnoticed, but online, I have been able to reach over 5,000 people with my music. That’s just one area where I feel I truly made myself a name. And of course, the fact that Iv’e been able to discuss my personal story on this forum, but not so openly in real life tells you that it really does amazing things for us. Everything you’ve written here I can relate to, and agree with. Thanks for such a great article.
August 31, 2011 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #804017Queen BeeMemberBombmaniac,
MiddlePath,
Ronrsr,
August 31, 2011 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #804018digibochurMemberI don’t use the internet.
August 31, 2011 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #804019MiddlePathParticipantQueen Bee, thanks, and I would actually love for people here to be able to listen to my music! I don’t know if the mods will let this through, but here’s a link to one of my songs:
http://soundcloud.com/middlepath-cr/instrumental-song-1
I’ve made my identity completely anonymous.
Hope it works.
August 31, 2011 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #804020bombmaniacParticipantmy point wasnt just praising the net either…it was more that if you ever want to have any hope of marginalizing it you need to understand what it has to offer and come up with a suitable alternative.
August 31, 2011 7:02 pm at 7:02 pm #804021TomcheMemberSo what would be the suitable alternative that, you think, can marginalize the net?
August 31, 2011 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #804022YW Moderator-80Memberthis is not for publication outside the CR but we have been letting al gore use our computer facilities in wyoming. hes working on developing an alternative to the internet as we speak.
August 31, 2011 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #804023apushatayidParticipantwould he by any chance be testing the speed and efficiency of his new algorithm?
August 31, 2011 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #804024TomcheMemberHe is too busy hugging trees.
August 31, 2011 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #804025YW Moderator-80Memberas is well known al gor has no rhythm. more than that i cant say
August 31, 2011 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #804026apushatayidParticipantTrue. He has the rhythm of a robot.
August 31, 2011 7:34 pm at 7:34 pm #804027bombmaniacParticipanttomche: it depends on the person. it depends on the reason. there IS no one size fits all solution which should be obvious at this point.
August 31, 2011 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #804028TomcheMemberSome examples, bomb, please.
August 31, 2011 8:49 pm at 8:49 pm #804030MiddlePathParticipantCool, I see my link was let through! Thanks, mods! Feel free to check out my music, everyone.
August 31, 2011 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #804031bombmaniacParticipantidk…i tried posting a long arichus to answer tomche, but the mods deleted it. im going to keep submitting it until its accepted.
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