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My husband would never, ever agree to send our children to a Chabad school.
Why not?
He doesn’t agree with Chabad hashkafos OR halachos…he won’t eat their shechita, believes that their mikvaos are not kosher, etc. (Probably bedieved, if I got stuck in a place where only a Chabad mikvah were available, he would allow me to use it. But lechatchila not.)
He does, however, agree with me that Chabad is to be greatly admired and respected when it comes to kiruv. And since we travel often, we have seen firsthand the generosity and hospitality that Chabad is known for, and we will always be grateful to them for that.
Mikvas, Chabad has a rather unique shitta regarding, so it might be understandable if someone held l’chatchila to use another mikva based on his shitta. But regarding shechita, I see no logical reason why anyone wouldn’t use Chabad. Care to explain the halachic reasoning?
Joseph: My unscientific numbers say that 10% of Lubavitchers are Meshichisten, although I don’t know if that’s
what JF husband’s qualms regarding shchitah (hence Lubavitch Shoctim may be suspect) are about. But you probably are just baiting her again…
Not that my opinion matters, but this is my observation
But it seems the Meshicsten’s are more in Crown Heights than elsewhere. You will see them in Crown Heights or nearby, but you not see them elsewhere.
I can hear someone not accepting the shechita of a meshictsan. But why reject the shechita of the majority of Lubavitchers who aren’t meshictsan, especially if you know that a particular Lubavitcher shochet isn’t a meshictsan.
On top of that, the major kashrus organizations, including OU, certify meat that is produced by various kosher meat producers that employ Lubavitcher shochtim. Do you therefore reject meat from the major kashrus organizations and non-Lubavitcher meat producers that employ Lubavitcher shochtim? I guess you’d have to stick to Kiryas Yoel meat or Badatz Eida Chareidus.
Solid three weeks conversation.
Your premise is totally wrong.
And, Many of the posters here prove total ignorance to cultures other than their own and I find it funny that they would share their ignorance so blatanlty in public.
I don’t see anything discriminatory about an Ashkenaz school not taking Sephardic kids. A religious school is intended for those who follow the same religious practices. Sephardim have their own halachos, their own poskim, and even their own derech halimud.
As far as Chabad, that’s a very involved discussion. The reality is that many Litvish gedolim have a very big problem with them.
And, Many of the posters here prove total ignorance to cultures other than their own and I find it funny that they would share their ignorance so blatanlty in public.
So, instead of just belittling other people’s ignorance, how about pointing out where they are wrong, so that they (and the rest of us) can learn something, rather than just perpetuating the ignorance?
The Wolf
“Care to explain the halachic reasoning?”
It’s not my own, it’s my husband’s, so I don’t know. I’ll try to remember to ask him. I’m 99% sure it has nothing to do with meshichists, though.
He won’t have any good halachic explanation then.
“My unscientific numbers say that 10% of Lubavitchers are Meshichisten”
The real number is almost 100%. And I can prove it.
Joseph:
Why not? Because it’s impossible that a feminist could be married to someone who understands halacha? Or because it’s impossible that you could ever be wrong about something?
jf02, you completely misconstrued my comment. Of all things we’ve argued about this is the last one I had any feminist connotations in mind. To break it down in simpler terms, other than the meshichist issue, to whom it is applicable, there is no other plausible halachic differentiation between a non-meshichist Lubavitcher shochet and your local reliable Orthodox shochet.
But to settle this point, instead of arguing with me, why don’t you ask your husband for his reason and report back.
Never mind. He said it is because of meshichism.
Ah, so he’ll eat from non-meshichist Lubavitcher shochtim.
Cherrybim: I’d love to hear your proof. Are you talking about when the Rebbe was alive or now as well?
Yes, he would, in theory. The problem is that when you pick up a package of meat at the grocery store, you have no idea who the shochet was.
Both, while alive and after p’tirah.
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