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November 12, 2018 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm #1621467whitecarParticipant
They keep saying we should stop harrasing them forbtue sake of ahavas yisrael. What about listening to all poskim and rabbanim? What about putting commuinties in danger? Your self righteousness is causing major chillul hashem and you have mo one to blame but yourself
November 14, 2018 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1623424truthishiddenParticipantMost anti vaxers are parent of children who were harmed by vaccines. I wish you never to know their pain and may your child not be the next vaccine casualty, chalila.
November 14, 2018 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm #1623389truthishiddenParticipantMost anti-vaxers are parents of children who were harmed by vaccines. I bless you all that you should continue to be blissfully unaware of the dangers of vaccines and may it not by your child as the next casualty, chalila.
November 14, 2018 1:07 pm at 1:07 pm #1623438whitecarParticipantThen why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?
November 14, 2018 1:09 pm at 1:09 pm #1623439☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAmen.
It’s not an excuse not to vaccinate, though.
May your child not ch”v contract any of the illnesses which can be prevented by vaccines, nor pass them on to other children.
November 14, 2018 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #1623444👑RebYidd23ParticipantProvide one example of a person who was harmed by vaccines.
November 14, 2018 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #1623448midwesternerParticipantVery, very few of anti-vaxxers are parents of children who were harmed by vaccines. I know many people who are anti vaxxers. Not a single one has a child harmed. (One has a spouse that had allergies to some related issues, and was helped by changing away from conventional medicine. But children? None.)
As is well known, the original research that proved the link between vaccines and autism, that kick-started the entire movement, has been more than debunked. It has been proven fraudulent.November 14, 2018 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1623461Neville ChaimBerlinParticipantIf they insist on letting letting natural selection run its course, why do they have to mingle with the rest of us? Why can’t they move to an island somewhere and build an anti-vaxxer utopia. We’ll go check on them in a hundred years… and give them proper burials…
November 14, 2018 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #1623465truthishiddenParticipantWhitecar: “Then why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?”
Actually there is a choshuva rav that paskened if a parent knows the dangers of vaccines it is assur for them to vaccinate. (I may be slightly misquoting, but that’s the general idea). I didn’t ask the Rav if I can quote him, so I don’t feel comfortable giving a name.November 14, 2018 2:36 pm at 2:36 pm #1623471The little I knowParticipantBecause harassment will not provide immunity or cure any diseases. Yes, anti-vaxxers present a huge problem. But harassing them does not serve as solution. I am all in favor of all steps taken to prevent exposure, to provide vaccinations, etc. Ban when needed. Harassment does nothing except whet the appetite of those who want to take revenge. That is not any more acceptable as being irresponsible with children’s and public health.
November 14, 2018 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #1623506Takes2-2tangoParticipanttruthishiddenParticipant
Whitecar: “Then why are Rabbonim not giving heterim and if there are Rabbonim that are, who are they?”
Actually there is a choshuva rav that paskened if a parent knows the dangers of vaccines it is assur for them to vaccinate. (I may be slightly misquoting, but that’s the general idea). I didn’t ask the Rav if I can quote him, so I don’t feel comfortable giving a name.-
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If you consider this rav as a “dass torah”
Then why in gds name would u or he not want to share it with us.
Since when is halacha kept from the klall.
Either say who authored this psak or dont bother mentioning it.November 15, 2018 12:34 am at 12:34 am #1623820The Great UnknownParticipantdisclaimer: i vaccinate .rav malkiel kotler does not vaccinate and reb chaim says u dont need to (I have no idea why the jewish media ignores this)
November 15, 2018 10:59 pm at 10:59 pm #1624902Doing my bestParticipantYou found two rabbanim, there are many more others who say you have to vaccinate.
Do you know the wording of the question which was asked to R’ Chaim?November 15, 2018 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #1624904Doing my bestParticipantPLEASE CHANGE LAST POST 2ND PARAGRAGH TO “Do you know the EXACT(not really capitilized) wording of the question posed to R’ Chaim?
November 16, 2018 7:15 am at 7:15 am #1624913☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantreb chaim says u dont need to
Dr. Indich says he has seen a video (the owner hasn’t released it publicly) of R’ Chaim saying it is a chiyuv to vaccinate.
It was taken after the letter in which he didn’t allow a school to refuse admission of a child in a specific case (in which there were apparently special circumstances).
You can hear this on the latest “Headlines” podcast.
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