Why No Michitzah at Chuppa Ceremonies?

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    jewishness
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    Why is there never a michitza by a chupa? I am certainly not advocating for one 🙂 just wondering. We seem to put up the blockades at all kind of events, yet during a chuppa, which is such a holy moment, its down. Is that moment so holy that it knocks out the need?

    #971466
    eclipse
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    I was at a chuppah with a mechitzah, I just can’t remember which shul (maybe the bsmt of Young Israel) but I can’t remember which side they (Chosson and Kallah) walked down on.

    #971467
    lebidik yankel
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    maybe because its not prayer – just a legal ceremony. Just as there is no mechitza at a levaya

    #971468
    Nechomah
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    There are extremists who put up a mechitzah between the chosson and kallah, but we don’t put a mechitzah at a chassanah possibly because nobody except for the C&K are engaging in any religious ceremony. Their kedushah comes from joining together, so I would imagine that a mechitzah would be unproductive to this. You don’t need to separate the kahal watching the ceremony because that’s all they’re doing – watching. When there are activities that require separation, such as when the men daaven mincha or maariv or during the dancing, then there is a mechitzah. I would probably personally not object to optional mixed seating during the meal except for the fact that the dancing is in the same room and all of the men sitting around the women’s dance floor have front row seats, which I do not think is appropriate.

    #971469
    SaysMe
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    perhaps because everyone is (should be?) focused on the chupa and not the other side of the room? Many chuppas i’ve been at have had no mechitzas, but a rope/ribbon/drapery down 1 side of the aisle to prevent women mixing into the mass of men dancing the chosson n kallah out. That’s something i’d love to see more often

    #971470

    “I would probably personally not object to optional mixed seating during the meal except for the fact that the dancing is in the same room and all of the men sitting around the women’s dance floor have front row seats, which I do not think is appropriate.”

    It doesn’t have to be set up symmetrically. I have been to weddings that had the (mixed) reception tables on the men’s side of the mechitza for dancing, so there was no reason for men to be on the women’s side.

    #971471
    TheGoq
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    I would appreciate a mechitzah just so i dont have to see anyone covered in enough makeup to cover a car filled with clowns.

    #971472
    rebdoniel
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    Mechitzot being used for the sake of tzniut and preventing kallut rosh is very acceptable. A wedding seems to be the type of event where kallut rosh can be a real concern, and as such, I wouldn’t think a mechitza would inherently be a bad idea in these contexts.

    #971473
    oomis
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    It’s not davening. it’s a ceremony in which brachos are recited. The men and women sit separately, so there IS a mechitzah of sorts.

    #971474
    LevAryeh
    Member

    Do any women on the other side of the mechitzah feel discriminated against? If not, why the need to remove it? There happens to be an issur (d’oraysah) of Lo Sikrav, explained at length in chapter 11 of Mesilas Yesharim. Hope that didnt sound too preachy.

    #971475
    LevAryeh
    Member

    On a completely opposite note, a guy I knew once said that he loves Jewish weddings, because all the girls are in one place 🙂

    #971476
    WolfishMusings
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    A wedding seems to be the type of event where kallut rosh can be a real concern

    There’s usually very little kallot rosh during the ceremony itself (which is what we’re talking about).

    The Wolf

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