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  • #2293646
    Lostspark
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    The democrats want Trump to win.

    As soon as he’s in the next four years of reaping democrat policies will be blamed on Trump.

    Let’s get four more years of Biden to drive this beast into the ground completely.

    #2293784
    ☕️coffee addict
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    If by beast you mean America then I sure hope it doesn’t get driven into the ground

    #2293918
    SQUARE_ROOT
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    Jonathan Pollard said this on 2024 March 19:

    “The Biden Administration IS an enemy
    of the Jewish people and State of Israel.”

    SOURCE: Youtube video titled: “Jonathan Pollard:
    The New American Pier and Rescuing Gazan Refugees” by Machon Shilo

    #2293999
    wackyway
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    It sounds to me that the reason you are voting for Biden is because you are a Tipesh just like him

    #2294000

    It sounds like you are more concerned about Trump’s reputation than about America’s success.

    #2294182

    Surely we can more reliable sources that Mr. Pollard. As we see now that US-Israeli military is so important and very fragile, his contribution is duly noted.

    #2294313
    👑RebYidd23
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    Look, Biden’s critics claim he’s a bad person, untrustworthy, with bad ideas. They also claim he’s old and weak. Well, if the former is true, the latter is a good thing.

    #2294320
    lakewhut
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    There isn’t much of a Republican ruling class to begin with. There was a primary and it showed the weakness of the party overall. Republicans are always going to be blamed for years.

    #2294463
    Gadolhadorah
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    Square Root:
    Johnathon Pollard betrayed America and took money and gifts in return. He lied under oath. His actions made life difficult for yidden working in national security jobs or trying to get security clearances. Whatever one thinks about Biden’s policies in relation to Gaza and Netanyahu, I could care less what this lowlife has to say about anything.

    #2294703
    ☕️coffee addict
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    You just have to look at spies from other countries and how their sentences were a lot shorter than Pollards to see the fallacy of GH’s statement

    #2294753
    Lostspark
    Participant

    Better yet they should run a Hillary Hunter ticket.

    #2294790

    coffee, just because GH is saying something, does not mean tht he is necessarily wrong.

    Just look for a crooked pattern: you see posters trying to defend Biden resort to saying “even dead Biden is better …”; you defense of JP is similar – alleged lower sentence than other spies is not a proof of innocence.

    #2294806
    The little I know
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    The reason to not vote for Biden is that his advisers and controllers are immoral evil people with dangerous ideologies. His decline suggests greater odds that he might not survive the full term. Kamala is precisely what the Dems say about Trump – a threat to democracy. Firstly, she is a menacing and mean boss. Secondly, her political views are radical and a serious threat to America. Thirdly, she is completely unreliable. Check what her progress was on the border issue. Fourthly, she is nowhere close to genuine. Fifthly, she is an incoherent babbler. I’ve tried in vain to hear her express something rational and understandable. If she won’t succeed at boring her cabinet to sleep at meetings, she might succeed in doing that to herself.

    No, I cannot think of anything redeeming about Biden. But his choice of Kamala is more dangerous that we can imagine.

    #2294896
    Dr. Pepper
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    @Always_Ask_Questions

    I normally agree with @coffee addict and don’t see eye to eye with @Gadolhadorah but this is a rare exception.

    For many years I was davening for Jonathan Pollards health and for his immediate release. With that being said, when I was in college someone mentioned Jonathan Pollards name during class and our normally soft spoken professor flew into an uncontrollable tirade and started yelling about many things Pollard did which were never publicly published and had nothing to do with Israel. (The professor was working at the Pentagon during the Pollard saga and still held some sort of top level clearance there although I’m not sure at what level.)

    I continued to daven for his release, not that I felt he was being victimized but out of compassion for a fellow Yid who should be given the opportunity to do תשובה. And I think he owes the US a huge thanks for not getting the death penalty.

    I don’t really care for what he says anymore although I’d love to hear his (full) side of the story- they are many unanswered questions out there.

    #2294938

    Right, I am of the same opinion as your professor. JP might have had best (or at least good) intentions, but he did grave damage to US security; to Israel-
    US relationships (and, thus, to Israeli security) and to Jews who work on security issues. One thing to note that, as much as he believed that his contacts were from Israeli services, it is entirely possible that they were not, or that Israeli services were infiltrated. He played the game that was way over his head, did not and still does not admit to what he did.

    #2294940

    And davening for his teshuva and release is ok, I guess, but those who were continuously demanding his release and blaming Regan officials were contributing to the damage caused by him.

    #2294990
    Participant
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    dr.
    you “don’t see eye to eye with sicko”? do you also not “see eye to eye” with sinwar?
    I don’t know what Pollard did or didn’t do but don’t bring up possible crimes that never went to trial.

    #2294991
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “alleged lower sentence than other spies is not a proof of innocence.“

    Pollard had a higher sentence (not sure what you’re saying) spying for enemies is given a lower sentence than spying for allies

    Makes you wonder

    Dr Pepper,

    And what does that have to do with what he was charged for? Spying

    #2295076
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @Participant

    I’m not sure what you’re getting at. If I don’t see eye to eye with “sicko” or “sinwar” on just about anything but they claim that 1+1=2 I’m going to have to agree with them on that even if it means going against a respected person who claims that 1+1=3.

    You mentioned that you don’t know what Pollard did or didn’t do but I shouldn’t bring up possible crimes that never went to trial. Are you familiar with his case? He didn’t go to trial- he pled guilty and then violated the terms of his plea agreement with is probably why he got the maximum.

    @coffee addict

    What does what have to do with the spying he was charged with?

    How does him spying make him relevant close to 40 years after he was caught?


    @Gadolhadorah
    said that what he says is irrelevant. I normally don’t agree with Gadolhadorah but in this case I do. How does the length of his sentence make him more relevant?

    #2295282

    There are articles now how power people around the world are preparing for T presidency, which they didn’t do last time around. Their biggest concern is unpredictability that they don’t like in their nature. Their preparation includes (1) doing things T might like and that they found made sense – increase NATO budgets (2) find contacts close to T (3) try to create defenses against decisions they don’t want in case T goes there – transfer Ukraine support from US to NATO. So, the world seems to learn how to live with T, so I suggest you do too.

    #2295285
    Participant
    Participant

    @Dr.
    The term “normally don’t see eye to eye” is very mild, fitting when you’re talking about your colleague or neighbor, not reshaim who use every opportunity they have to vilify all things sacred. תכלית שנאה שנאתים.

    I am indeed unfamiliar with JP’s case, but either way it seemed you’re saying he deserved his sentence due to additional crimes, not the crime(s) that he was actually sentence for. Sorry if I misunderstood.

    #2295287
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    President Joe Biden recently made a public statement
    in which he said that he was “proud” to be
    “the first black woman to serve under a black president”.

    President Joe Biden confused himself several times in the sentence:
    He confused himself with his own vice president,
    Kamala Harris, and referred to her time
    as vice president under Barack Obama.

    ================================
    None of this surprised me.

    When Joe Biden became USA President 4 years ago,
    I said: “Congratulations!
    You just elected America’s first senile President!”

    Those were my exact words, 4 years ago.

    ================================
    Over the past 4 years, the neo-Marxists and Stalinists
    who dominate the MSM (Mainstream News Media)
    have conspired to conceal and deny the senility
    of President Joe Biden.

    But the recent debates made Joe Biden’s senility undeniable.

    The Mainstream News Media should be held accountable
    for their conspiracy to conceal and deny the senility
    of President Joe Biden.

    #2295447
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    RebYidd23, yeah obviously his incompetence doesn’t actually bother his opponents, and they are just using any tool at their disposal. However, there is something to be said about the fact that it makes it obvious that some unelected people are getting to make important decisions thanks to this incompetence.

    #2295573
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @Participant

    Thanks for taking the time to respond- I’m going to try to better explain my choice of words.

    There are two categories (in my opinion- there may be more) of people who identify as Frum yet vote Democrat.

    1. Those that are clueless and vote Democrat because they are told to but would be horrified if they knew what the party stood for and

    2. Those that are knowledgeable as to what the party stands for but vote for the party anyway (to get free money) and try to justify it.

    I was curious about how those in the second category justify their position so I tried discussing it with posters who seemed intelligent enough to know what the party stands for (unsurprisingly I either get no response, a dodgy response or an incoherent response).

    Out of respect for the clueless posters I’d refer to a difference in opinion as “not seeing eye to eye”. I’d have no problem referring to a difference of opinion with those in the second category as “I’m totally opposed to what they stand for”. I don’t recall discussing anything political with @Gadolhadorah so to be דן לכף זכות I used the former wording.

    As far as Jonathan Pollard is concerned- I probably should have explained my position a little better. The main thing I was trying to convey is that his opinion is irrelevant. He may have provided Israel with top secret information but he didn’t do it with altruistic intentions- he would have sold (and tried to sell) the information to others. This is well documented and public information.

    As far as his sentence goes- he made a plea deal with the US Government (it was in the best interest of all parties as he would have gotten a shorter sentence and the US wouldn’t have had to make public some of the information he disclosed). I’m not sure why he violated the terms of the plea deal by granting an interview with Wolf Blitzer (and I’m not sure why Wolf Blitzer was allowed in jail to conduct the interview) but he did violate the terms and as much as I felt bad for him for the 30 years that he was rotting in prison- he shouldn’t have done that.

    I’m not going to say if someone deserves something or not- thankfully that’s not my job.

    #2295576
    yechiell
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    the little i know – perfect name for you
    “The reason to not vote for Biden is that his advisers and controllers are immoral evil people with dangerous ideologies”.
    really? meanwhile most of trump’s advisers are either in jail or going to jail.
    haven’t heard of a single biden adviser in jail. evil? in what way?
    all poppycock by people who know little, if anything

    #2295986
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    I was thinking about this today

    The reason one should vote for Biden is that if Trump wins in November; Russia, China, and Iran will take it as a time to ramp up things while they have the chance

    If Biden wins in November they have another four years to prepare

    #2295969
    The little I know
    Participant

    yechiell:

    I’m not ashamed of my screen name. I’m much less concerned about the “in jail or gaoing to jail” of Trump’s folks than I am about Biden’s. Fact remains that today’s courts that are involved in bring these cases and the judges presiding are politicized Bidenites. This is a travesty that the Democrats have inflicted on American politics. I am actually worried that Trump, whose first term in presidency was choked by the Dems obsession with finding a crime that they could charge Trump with. They first labeled him a criminal, then set out to find something. That crippled our Legislative branch of government. They finally managed to fabricate a dossier, and make a case that was eventually proven a hoax. When Trump returns to office, will he allow the government to be obsessed with retaliation? I would feel bad if he does, but I wouldn’t blame him a bit.

    No, Biden’s crew are getting away with murder. The prosecutors and judges are Democrats, and they will never charge them with anything. The Bidens have been corrupt for years, with Hunter being the symptom that finally emerged. There not being Bidenites in jail is not because they are not crooks.

    #2296000
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @yechiell

    You Leftists/ Libs/ Laszlos never cease to crack me up 😂 .

    Even with (according to you) “most of President Trump’s advisors in jail or going to jail” he still managed to be the best president the country has ever been lucky enough to have by a huge margin while you “haven’t heard of a single biden adviser in jail” yet he still managed to be the undisputed worst president ever, even pushing Obama into second place and Carter into third!

    Keep em coming!

    #2296026

    I will not go as far as Dr Pepper to consider every D voter an ignoramus or pasul, but I am very confused when people reject reasonably clear facts, whether they are Ds or Rs or Is. It seems to me that Ds suffer more from this, but I could be biased.

    Some of such things include things that were good under T (economy, support of Israel, pressure on China, Russia, NATO payup) and things that are not so good under B (inflation, illegal immigration, Afghanistan, Ukraine).

    It also includes wild manipulation of data. During the infamous debate, B showed clear mind when “quoting” statistics, conflating results of Covid disruption with normal economy. He was in clear mind at those moments, those were well-prepared and well-remembered mis-representations, not memory lapses. I understand why a politician will do that. But I am at a loss when a fellow Yid says similar things. Maybe this is cultural assimilation where we use “freedom of speech” to try to convince our brothers instead of following Jewish values of following the truth and staying away from falsehood.

    #2296027
    yechiell
    Participant

    Hello Dr pepper
    Your problem is, doc, that you take an opinion, yours or someone else’s, as a fact
    Facts and opinions must be separated.
    “Best president”? On whose say?
    “Worst”? On whose say?
    Grow up.

    #2296028
    yechiell
    Participant

    T he little I know
    “Judges are politicized Bidenites”
    Pure a nd simply a LIE.

    #2296180
    Dr. Pepper
    Participant

    @yechiell

    You’re correct, my opinions are not facts.

    “Best president”? On whose say?
    “Worst”? On whose say?

    I should have explicitly written “for those law abiding US Citizens who take responsibility for themselves but not for illegal aliens, shoplifters, carjackers, murderers, terrorists… and those who want the government to pay for everything for them”.

    I thought it was obvious but apparently not.

    #2372068
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    During the 4 years that the USA was led by ex-President Joe Biden
    and ex-Vice President Kamala Harris, the USA government
    spent taxpayer money on these things:

    $2 million for Morroccan pottery classes
    $2 million for promoting tourism to Lebanon
    $20 million for a “Sesame Street” show in Iraq
    Sending Ukrainians to Paris Fashion Week
    $1.5 million for DEI in Serbia
    $70,000 for a DEI musical in Ireland
    $47,000 for a transgender opera in Columbia
    $32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru
    $2 million for sex changes in Guatemala
    $6 million for promoting tourism to Egypt
    $1 million to help disabled people in Tajikistan become “Climate Leaders”
    $15 million for contraceptives and condoms in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

    During the 4 years that the USA was led by ex-President Joe Biden
    and ex-Vice President Kamala Harris, none of these wicked and wasteful
    projects was ever criticized by ANYONE from the Democratic Party,
    including:

    Bill and Hillary Clinton, ex-President Barack Hussein Obama,
    Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, Dr. Anthony Fauci,
    Kathy Hochul, Gavin Newsom, Dianne Feinstein, Andrew Cuomo,
    Adam Schiff, Al Franken, Cory Booker, Maxine Waters,
    and Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez and “The Squad” that she leads.

    Even after this unbelievable stupidity and wickedness,
    the majority of American Jews continue to vote for the Democratic Party.

    #2372326

    Actually, Sesame Street in Iraq may be not bad. During Reagan times, we subsidized radio propaganda towards the Soviet Block and it was a great source of information there and presumably contributed to their downfall . Maybe, you want some edgier than Sesame Street, but maybe that is the level that works for current generation …

    #2372363
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    During the 4 years that the USA was governed by ex-President Joe Biden
    and ex-Vice President Kamala Harris, the USA spent many millions of dollars
    of taxpayer money to give Social Security payments to
    more than 130,000 people more than 160 years old,
    with thousands of Social Security recipients over 300 years old.

    These wicked wasteful payments were NEVER criticized by ANYONE
    from the Democratic Party, including: Bill and Hillary Clinton,
    ex-President Barack Hussein Obama, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi,
    Bernie Sanders, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Kathy Hochul, Gavin Newsom,
    Dianne Feinstein, Andrew Cuomo, Adam Schiff, Al Franken,
    Cory Booker, Maxine Waters, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
    Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, and “The Squad” that they lead.

    Even after this unbelievable stupidity and wickedness,
    the majority of American Jews continue to vote for the Democratic Party.

    #2372426
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    “Actually, Sesame Street in Iraq may be not bad.“

    Aaq,

    I don’t think it was funding American Sesame Street I think it was geared towards Iraqis ( with big bird having a suicide vest)

    #2372375

    Under an international standard called ISO 8601, a missing value for a date is coded as May 20, 1875, because that was the date of an international standards-setting conference held in Paris, known as the “Convention du Mètre.”

    For that reason, under some coding systems, a missing value for a date will default to 1875 — which in the year 2025 produces a round figure of 150.

    “Some people, particularly some immigrants, really don’t know their exact birthday, so there would have to be some alternative means of verification,” said C. Eugene Steuerle, a fellow at the Urban Institute, a think tank, and a former deputy assistant secretary of the Treasury Department during the Reagan administration.

    As a percentage of all payments, improper Social Security payments account for 0.84% of the total, the inspector general has found.

    That’s “better than any private insurance company in the nation,” and with a lower cost of administration, said Henry J. Aaron, a fellow with the Brookings Institution think tank and a former chair of the Social Security Advisory Board.

    #2372612

    Of course sending monthly checks for the same amount should have lower overhead than a real insurance.

    1% known error? So if you pay 20 bills monthly on autopay, you will somehow miss 2 payments every year? Those two mosdos will not be happy.

    #2376805
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    The new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)
    discovered a man in the state of Louisiana with
    34 different names & 34 addresses & 34 Social Security numbers.

    He was collecting $1,168,646 per year in Social Security payments.

    Why was this never discovered by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

    Why was this never discovered by Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer?

    Why was this never discovered by AOC or Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib?

    Why was this never discovered by ANY member of the Democratic Party?

    It seems that the members of the Democratic Party do not care
    how much money they waste, because they laugh at the taxpayers!

    #2376838
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    Square root,

    The same could be said of the republicans (including trump’s first term)

    #2378154

    You can’t legally vote for Biden any more (unless he is running for the dogcatcher), so time to retire this thread.

    #2380364
    SQUARE_ROOT
    Participant

    Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency [DOGE]
    canceled a $600,00 grant to Southern University and A & M College
    that funded studying the menstrual cycles of transgender men.

    It seems that the members of the Democratic Party do not care
    how much money they waste, because they laugh at the taxpayers!

    #2380745
    commonsaychel
    Participant

    Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency [DOGE]
    canceled a $6,000,00 grant to Chanyana Weissman to study why short men and fat women get ignored by shadchonim

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