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Esp. in the summer. No one would be able to see my hair. I’d have no hair to cover.
Who said you can’t?
Just curious, but who says you can’t? It would draw attention, but aside from that issue (assuming you hold that’s not inherently Assur except where discussed by the Poskim) why couldn’t you?
You could.
Intresting idea…
Wandering Chana- many people on chemo Nebach have bald heads and need to wear a sheitel not to frighten anyone.
Don’t say you want a bald head please!
If your a male, go for it, just leave your peyos.
Don’t some chassidishe women shave their head after the chasuna (or is that an urban legend)? What do their poskim hold about an obligation to cover their head after they do so? This might be “Boich svara” but, is it possible that the “fuzz” still has to be covered since chazal didn’t specify a length to hair that must be covered?
I once joked about that with a Chassidich friend about that. After all, the hair is the ervat davar, not the head. He gave me a good reply. He said that since the head is part of the body normally covered (at least for a married woman) it also becomes a davar ervah to expose.
Many chassidishe women shave their head after they are married; it is no urban legend. In some chassidusen it is left to the individual to decide but in others, Viznitz for example, all the women shave. This is often one of the first issues discussed in a chassidishe shidduch.
Idk I think the Poskim discuss it may not be tznius, as it may come to bring a large amount of attention.
I think i’d rather have a wig…. yes even in the heat of summer
The whole thing that I understand about hair and covering it is that a woman’s own hair is a very beautiful part of her and it is something to be saved just for her husband. Covering it with a shaitel or other head covering does not have to make her ugly, she’s not allowed to make herself ugly in front of her her husband, but the hair is still to be saved for him.
I once heard that it is a bigger mitzvah (not sure about a scale of big/little mitzvos, just mentioning for relativity) for a woman to have hair and cover it than to take off her hair. What’s left to share with her husband?
As far as the women who shave their heads, that comes from the Chasam Sofer who indicated this for Hungarian women due to issues at the mikvah. I can say as a woman who has had long hair and also shaved my head, that going to mikvah without hair is thousands of times easier than dealing with their hair, but I probably got more schar especially in sholom bayis when I had hair. I only shaved when it became clear that I was past childbearing age but not through menopause yet and dealing with the hair issue once every month or two was not the same as a couple of times a year or until the next time I got pregnant.
If ur too hot put on a snood:)))
It could be that fuzz isn’t long enough to be Halachically considered hair.
You can’t.
The halacha is primarily that a woman cover her head, not her hair.
The prohibition is for a woman to go out ???? ???? – “her head uncovered” (this is the translation of the Rishonim). The Gemara in Kesubos which introduces this halacha does not mention the word hair.
See my posts here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/hair-covering-and-married-women
Your husband may not have a choice in the matter, but why subject us to such a sight?
yitayningwut,
Maybe that Gemara,in Kesubos, means that the hair of the head must be covered, as the Gemara in B’rachot (24a) says that the hair is the Ervah. If you are telling me that the head is the Ervah, then I could say that wearing a burka would be obligatory to cover the whole head. Clearly, covering the head (as mentioned in in Kesubos) means to cover the hair OR the hair & scalp. I think that it means to cover the hair.
MDG-
The head is not ervah, and the requirement to cover the head is not primarily because of ervah. This is a common mistake.
See my posts on the thread I linked to above. Also see my lengthy post here: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/how-tznius-are-todays-sheitels
Why?! Cuz you’d freak the living daylights out of the rest of us.
Please keep your shaved head under wraps.
From all of us,
Thank you!
Nothing.. if you’re Vin Diesel.
Or Lieutenant Ilia.
No, its OK for guys to be seen that way in public. (In fact, its better, IMHO, than a comb-over)
But its NOT ok for women to be seen like that.
It is, outside of your fiefdom of Boro Pahk.
your telling me that out side of BP women walk around with shaved heads?
Do you live in India?
“It is”
I mean tznius aside; you really have no problem with a shaved head on a woman? Are you talking a close shave like the one Grace Jones had in the Bond movie? Or the buzz Ms. Spears had in one of her fits of insanity?
Gosh, Squeak, who’da thought? I guess some like chocolate, others vanilla.
Definitely Ossur because of Baal Tshaktsu!
forget this issue about you yourself. but if you want your daughters to stand a chance in shidduchim you better not!
We always tease each other, if I grow a beard my wife will shave her head! (my beard is scraggly and spotty)
My wife of 10 yrs always says the shaitel is the hardest mitzvah for a girl. I always remind her of the schar she will reap for adhearing to it.
And finally, after all these years my wife STILL asks me, when will the chachamim of our generation pipe up and exclaim, whooooops! we made an error on the shaitel thing. our bad. sorry. hair is muttur, afterall!
It’s a machlokes in the Mishnah in Nedarim (28a) if a shaved head is considered a ?????.
yitayningwut -See I was Mechavin to the Mishnah, even though I never learnt it.
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