oomis -“but a treif hotel is still a treif hotel, and bars are still bars, and most lounges DO have people coming and going who are up to something our kids should not be witnessing on a date.”
The picture you are painting is far from the reality. Almost every hotel that Charedim frequent aren’t some seedy motel. Most people going to these places are not the low-life type. Yes, once in a blue moon you might see something that is Pritzus, but on the whole it’s much less than a pizza shop.
All I can say is within the last year, I went to two pizza shops that were hangouts. I normally buy pizza in normal places, but once I went to one on Ave. J and one in Monticello. I couldn’t stand what was going on with the mingling and I was just taking out pizza, not sitting down – and I honestly am not the type that is a Machmir. After all, I’m on the Net. It really churned my stomach all the socializing – I just wasn’t brought up like that, even though many Shomer Shabbos people were!