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Is there an actual reason, or is this just another way for kashrut agencies to extract more money from the public?
Who is giving a hecksher to raw chicken eggs?
Unlike milk (in some places, non-kosher milk is sold commercially), there are no non-kosher animals whose eggs are commercially available, or are customarily eaten by humans.
According to the Torah, regular ol’ chicken eggs don’t need a hashgacha.
According to *daas* torah, eggs do need a hashgacha.
So it depends which religion you buy into. I personally lean towards the former. But then again, that’s just personal preference.
Good question. I am unaware of any commonly eaten eggs that come from non-kosher birds. A corollary is the issue of gevinas Akum. The kashrus issue with cheese is the coagulant used. Chalav akum is not an issue because cheese can only be made from the milk of kosher animals.
The same reason why water has a hechsher. It does not need it but if someone feels it will sell more they pay for it.. What gets really meshuga is when these types of products have multiple hechsherim. Is there really anyone out there that says I don’t trust that guy for a a hechsher on my seltzer but him….
It all comes down to marketing
Given what we’ve seen this week regarding what can be hidden in a pager, who knows what might have been put inside an egg. You need to find a good chassideshe hashgacha with the requisite expertise in hun hoyzen and avionics.
Who says they do?
Some people here have a chip on their shoulder requiring them to find fault with anyone too religious for their likings.
My Ruv (& noted Posek) has been having a very difficult time with this issue. After much research & discussion with other major Poskin he made a compromise ruling.
Men in our Shul that eat eggs without a Hashgacha may still be given Aliyah’s but the Tzibur should not answer Amen to his Brochos.I might be mistaken, but is there a possibility of eggs being sold from non mesorah chickens?
Who is selling raw chicken eggs with a hecksher? What company is paying for such a hecksher?
If some “dairy” company has a contract with a hecksher that all their products get the hecksher, the eggs frequently sold by that dairy company would technically get a hecksher, but the marginal cost of that hecksher would be de minimis (the fee for the hecksher would be on products that require supervision). Processed food such as powdered eggs need a hecksher but the discussion is over raw chicken eggs sold with unbroken shells.
Non-chicken eggs that occasionally get sold commercially, which is rare, are from kosher birds such as turkey and duck. Almost all eggs sold anywhere are from chickens, largely since chickens have been genetically modified to produce eggs roughly once a day and even when they are not fertilized.
Some people here have a chip on their shoulder requiring them to find fault with anyone too religious for their likings.
Hard to disagree when someone makes an issue out of a non-issue
According to the CRC, they don’t need a hechsher, as long as they’re in the shell. If you’re buying liquid eggs (and obviously cooked eggs!), it does need a hechsher.
Joseph,
While laughably extreme positions are the cornerstone of your made-up NK religion, for true Jews, “Frum is a Galach, Ehrlich is a Yid”.
The huge flaw on your shoulder requires you to find fault with anyone not pledging allegiance to your myopic outlook.
I think hashgaha on beitzim is definitely in order right now, I heard three are counterfeit ones coming from lebanon.
Not too long ago, no one, anywhere, required a hechsher on eggs. However, recently, questions have been asked about the lineages of hens used to commercially produce eggs. Whether many of these suspicions are well-founded or not, I have my doubts. But there are also doubts about whether forbidden species have been interbred into otherwise kosher poultry – again, a somewhat contentious subject if it’s at all possible. But some support this claim through genetics. That’s why Orthodox hasgochos require hechsher for both live poultry and eggs. Those who don’t identify with those hashgochos, or the Rabbonim standing behind them will probably spurn these new chumros, like their forebears spurned chumros like a hechsher on milk and bread etc.
WRT water. some companies transport water in tankers, which are regularly used to transport other liquids, sometimes not kosher. Water bottled at source with dedicated machinery, does not really require a hechsher – save to state that it is bottled at source.No one has ever bred a chicken with a different bird. The genetic engineering of chickens, which had already taken place by the periods referred to in the Talmuds, was done through natural means (preferring those that lay eggs even when infertile, and eating the rest).
Please list the Hechksherim giving heckshers to unprocessed chicken eggs, and the companies producing them. I can’t seem to find them in any kashrus guides, leading me to think discussion is a HOAX (probably be a non-frum Jews trying to annoy us).
I once heard from a mashgiach that when one sees eggs in an ingredients list on a product to not automatically assume that there is no issue with the eggs. There is an issue called ova eggs (I think that’s what he called it), which is eggs found in the body of a chicken after it was killed or slaughtered. These eggs are an issue and that’s why one has to be sure that the product has a hechsher.
Eggs in a carton probably don’t have this issue.There is a Rema that says that a test for bird kashrus is to put the bird on a wire, and see if it splits its claw with 3 toes on one side, and one on the other, or two and two. Modern egg laying chickens sometimes walk with two toes in front, and two in back. That’s where the shayloh comes from.
Whether or not eggs need hashgacha (they don’t), the more products carry the hashgacha, the better it is for the Yidden. This is common sense. For one, if I am opening a food related business and I see that 75% of the market carries a particular certification then I will want it too. Second, if a hashgacha company can charge an egg distributor a half of a penny per carton for the hashgacha then the money that comes in from something like that can offset the high cost associated with a hashgacha on a product made in Peru or Indonesia that receives a hechsher from that same hashgacha. So we can chuckle about it but we only have to gain from eggs having hashgacha.
Has everyone forgotten the Braekel chicken issue already!?!?!
why don’t we say, as many other cases when we are inconvenienced – Hashem saves peshayim? If this works for smoking, it should work for eggs also. We ate eggs for centuries without any halachik problems.
“Has everyone forgotten the Braekel chicken issue?”
Who can forget those pashkevilim insisting that all contemporary chickens are treifus, invoking a number of chashuvah rabbonim including R’ Wosner’s Beis Din etc. Some were machmir to the point of not only foregoing chickens or eggs but also anything made with egg derivatives (such as mayonnaise). In reality, I suspect that all commercially available chickens on the market today have been hybridized with unknown types.. Fortunately, virtually all hashgachos relied upon today, including the gold-standard chassideshe hashgachos, have no kashrus concerns with chickens on the market.
GH,
Why do you always insist on publicly and irrefutably demonstrating how utterly halachically uninformed you are? You do not even have the slightest concept of what you repost from google or gather from ne of AI sites.
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