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Better for a malcontent to be on the streets than for him to be shmadded in the army.
“…..The frum ones only yell at people….”
LOLOLOL
Yossel, You typing that with a straight face?
LETZ even say that that’s all they do…. IAre klollos and foul languaged pakshivillin permitted?
Watch him come back with eppes a meimer from somebody.Yeah the shmad of the disciple of the army vs the shmad of the streets with drugs and other Juvenille deliquencies
…. And I’m including the vile pakshivillin that appeared in Jerusalem against Rav Shteinman, zichrono livrocho after his petirah. You don’t have to yell with the mouth, you can yell just as vulgar & obscene , even rachmono litzlan ,in Loshon Kodesh.
Folks, these are shomer mitzvos yidden and you have to be dan lchaf zchus, judge for the good. The problem is you are judging another culture. You sit in nice, polite America – the President aside – and judge them. But this is Israeli culture. If you think these guys are crude, you should see the chilonim. Israel has a very crude, rude culture. It’s not the fault of the Charedim. They get caught up in it even as they try to resist it.
zahavasdad “Yeah the shmad of the disciple of the army vs the shmad of the streets with drugs and other Juvenille deliquencies ”
Do you want everyone drafted of just the ones on drugs ?
Your whole argument against the draft is that those who learn torah should not go to the army as they are protecting Klal Yisroel, Since these people are not learning and may even be doing danger to themselves or others.
The charedi Oilem seems not to want to take responsibility for these people “They arent charedim and they wont listen to anyone anyway” , so someone needs to take responsibility for them and save them from themselves
“Your whole argument against the draft is that those who learn torah should not go to the army as they are protecting Klal Yisroel”,
No, that’s only one of several arguments. Another is that the Israeli army purposefully attempts to shmad every inductee. This is their official policy to be a melting pot. Additionally the behavior between male and female soldiers has always been very immoral.
The Israeli army has always been designed to tear religion from Jews. It destroys people, particularly as its chief function has become to lock the Palestinians in a prison. It is the furthest thing from Judaism.
“some of the chardim hashkafa about the army and you turned the whole Isreal into rude crude people by”danim them lkaf zechus”.sorry this is not called dan lchaf zechus”
Rude? They are fighting for the survival of Yiddishkeit in Israel.
“The charedi Oilem seems not to want to take responsibility for these people “They arent charedim and they wont listen to anyone anyway” , so someone needs to take responsibility for them and save them from themselves”
Who are these people ? The people that protest against chilul shabbos or again gezeiros geyus ?
Or is it the Drug addicts thats disturbing you?“”lol were you telling us before we need to Dan lchav zechus lol”
don cchof zchus applies to proper frum jews. You don’t have to be dan l’chaf zchus on apikorsim. Brothers means brothers in mitzvos.
<I was quoting Mtab that said the chardim are rude b>
i did not say charedim are rude, i’m saying that chilonim are psychotic and some of that rubs off on some charedim, the culture is a crazy culture, zionism from the outset was intended to rid jews of torah, and the result of jews without torah is madness, so israel is a mad culture, so if you see charedim calling soldiers names that’s where it comes from, and also the society, which worships soldiers, is threatening to destroy charedi life with the draft
“It says “hevi Dan es kol hudum lchaf zechus” it doesn’t say anything about brother”
it’s poshut, judge on the scale of merit means he has merits and you could judge him either way
if he is not frum he doesn’t have meritwe cut the non-frum way too much slack
you want to keep shabbos, we’ll help you
but if you don’t you have no credibility
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