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Is it a zionist thing or just plain tacky?
Yom Ha’atzmaut is Tuesday if I’m not mistaken
I will. I don’t think has to do with being a zionist necessarily, just showing your support and love for the only place that is really ours. Okay, maybe that sounded to zionistic, but if you know what true love of Eretz Yisroel is, then you will understand how important it is- whether or not you believe in the zionistic formation of the land.
There is no reason why yidden, frum yidden all over the world, who all love Eretz Yisroel, because it is ours can’t do something mildly supportive. Obviously, there is the machlokes amongst the rabbanim about whether or not to celebrate because we it is during Sfiras Haomer- you can still show a little internal pride for having something that took so long for us to get back.
And by the way- so not tacky. Just a little pride.
I know im not. its more of a zionist thing , though we will have a BBQ just for fun ( we WONT be saying Halel!)
1- It’s on Monday
2- Whichever shirt is clean…….
Yes, but Yom Hazikaron (Memorial Day for fallen IDF soldiers) is Monday.
It should be Monday but it is Tuesday. Because if it was Monday then Yom HiZikaron would be Motzei Shabbat and they move it so people are not violating shabbat to get to memorial services (or set them up I guess).
I am wearing a blue shirt today actually
If I owned a pair of blue jeans, I would wear them with a torn white shirt (as in kriah) to express my feelings toward what the supposed day of independence stands for. That is because if I owned a pair of blue jeans, I would wear them only for times when I don’t want to get my dry-clean only clothing dirty. I don’t paint the house or handle repairs myself these days (in Ukraine good tools cost a sach gelt and repairmen work for peanuts) so I don’t need jeans.
If EY were truly independent and truly Jewish, instead of dependent on the US, EU and UN and copying every bit of cheap pop culture from the US, I might feel differently but I still would not celebrate this artificial holiday.
I do, however, listen to music for a few minutes on hey iyar. My copy of Hashem Hu Malkenu is by Ariel Zilber and is set to full instrumental music. The only a capella version available is by the clowns who visit Iran and demonstrate with Muslims.
Why is blue and white tacky? Why does it have to be a zionist “thing”, why can’t it be a political “thing” if one lives outside Israel. If one lives in Israel and chooses to wear blue and white, why is it a zionist thing and not national pride? Is national pride a bad thing?
I’m wearing blue and white.
I’m saying Hallel tomorrow with a bracha.
I’m saying the additions to Ma’ariv tonight that were sanctioned by the chief Rabbinate for Yom Ha’atzmaut.
We have food prepared for a major BBQ tomorrow. One of my daughters is making blue and white cupcakes even as I type this.
(Of course, I live in an area where everyone does this, not just me.)
I davened in a Minyan this morning where the Rov said we should say Full Hallel w/o a Bracha after Davening. What was sad was watching a few people leave the shul to protest this. Clearly I am not one to give a psak regarding the Tefilos to add, etc but I feel if you daven with a Tzibur and the Rov paskened, it looks bad to walk out. Interestingly enough, they were ok with skipping Tachanun, they didn’t go out of there way to say Tachanun! And you also wonder, who are they protesting to? 30 random Balabatim who don’t have a say in the Medinah politics anyway!
I will do a veggie bbq (unless the kids bring the dead protein) as a hakaras hatov, that I am able to live here, that life here is not as hard or sad as it was 50, 70, 100, 0r 150 years ago.
i will iy”H be wearing blue and white, saying hallel(without a bracha though bec thats how i grew up) and maybe ill have a bbq!
I never understood why some do not celebrate this holiday
For thousands of years EY was a dream. Many great Rabbanim yearned to go.
Today all is takes is $1500 for an plane ticket and you are there in 12 hours
Today all is takes is $1500 for an plane ticket and you are there in 12 hours
When we made aliyah I told my kids that they would be able to do things here that their friends in America could only dream about. I said, “If your friends want to come, they have to make plans ahead of time, and spend mucho money, and spend hours traveling to the airport, waiting at the airport, then on the plane. If you want to go to Yerushalayim, you hop on a bus for 15 shekels, and 1 hour later, you’re there. Always be grateful for that.”
I am an unapologetic Zionist. For all its faults I love living In Israel and I love that I met my wife about 3 weeks after I got here.
I try to remember from time to time all the generations of Jews for whom “Next year in the Land of Israel” was a dream that had as much chance of happening as “Next year on the Moon”. I can live here in Israel, in prosperity and health. Yes I am thankful for that. (Even if I do complain about the bus a bit too often)
Who’s going to be wearing blue and white tomorrow?
Easy. The Toldos Aharon-niks will be. With their blue and white garb and knitted kappels, they appear to be the ultimate zionists 🙂
all the generations of Jews for whom “Next year in the Land of Israel” was a dream that had as much chance of happening… I can live here in Israel
Next year in the Land of Israel? That’s not what we say or daven for. We say ???? ???? ???????? ?????-? (Next year in the rebuilt Yerusholayim), ie with Moshiach!
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Why are you bumping up all the Yom Haatzmaut threads?
It’s not til next week.
ETA: Will wear blue and white if I remember, will not say Hallel. My school doesn’t, though some kids say it on their own. There’s usually a big debate about it (just the halacha aspects) right before, but in the end we all live and let live.
ETA again: Eh- HEMMMMM…..
Writersoul,
It was popa’s idea to bump them, and I bumped another three or four.
It should be fun to have seven threads about the same subject going on at the same time. 🙂
I’m happy that I live in a neighborhood that there is no discussion at all of Yom H’Atzmaut. Its just a regular day like all others. Regular clothes, regular davening, etc.
I’m sure my kids have never even heard of it.
The two largest Orthodox synagogues in my neighborhood in the Bronx recite full Hallel, with a blessing, on Yom HaAtzmaut. Last year, after davening Shacharit in my neighborhood, I davened Minchah in Brooklyn and they recited Tachanun.
The two largest Orthodox synagogues in my neighborhood in the Bronx recite full Hallel, with a blessing, on Yom HaAtzmaut.
I am surprised. I did not know that HIR recited any blessings. I assume not to Hashem though?
Today all is takes is $1500 for an plane ticket and you are there in 12 hours
Maybe we should celebrate the 28th of Kislev.
Blue and white on the tzitzis.
“Today all is takes is $1500 for an plane ticket and you are there in 12 hours”
Actually, it’s about $1100 for a ticket booked for now through May 31st or so. El Al’s having a sale.
You’re welcome.
I posted that price a year ago…
Yeah, I know.
Sorry, I’m not trying to correct you. I just wanted to post, in case anyone’s interested, that there IS a sale.
We should say Hallel with two brachos (at least) to commemorate the day Dan’s Deals opened.
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