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Due to the coronavirus I’m been using my mothers phone for zoom classes and there were times that the curiosity got the better of me and i opened up her WhatsApp and I noticed everyone has a picture by their name which I’ve learnt is called a profile picture and is able to be seen by the public. Why is it appropriate to have a picture of you and the wife and family for the public eye to see?
I dont have a profile picture. It is not required.
There’s a heter for trolls mommies in yd 136:15
Different people, different beliefs. If it really bothers you then don’t use WhatsApp.
Mishnayos – totally agree. To the point where i am sometimes a bit surprised at what pictures people choose to post. If i could find a legit way to get rid of my whatsapp i would do it.
I use a message or a logo as a pic. No human photos.
Mishnayosyid
whether it is according to your eye- buds tasting or not, is not really appealing to us!!!
If you want- look at it, if you dont want- dont look. if you want- post a picture of you and your wife to be, if you dont want –dont post.The same way they never asked you about if they should be on whatsapp at all, they are also not asking you what YOU think is appropriate or not.
It really as no נפק”מ to our lives.
Not sure y this is even a discussion and y shouldn’t a lady post pics of her family for her friends to see I hope u don’t have a hava amina men are looking at ladies pics!!?!
Maivin – religion isn’t a live and let live kinda thing. If you see someone doing something you believe/feel/were taught to be wrong than you absolutely should be asking about it. Maybe the answer is that it is wrong but people can’t help themselves. Or maybe the answer is that if is not wrong but many people are machmir not to. Asking isn’t judging. And he didn’t ask you if you enjoy it, he asked why it’s appropriate. Which you didn’t answer by the way. Wanting to do something doesn’t make it appropriate.
Mesivta aliya – of coarse they do. How can you not see a picture on your phone?
I am glad that I washed my hands of whatsapp.
Syag Lchochma.
I think you need to broaden your syag.
My point was that appropriate is relative.Mishnayosyid,
Please don’t take offense, but the issue of whether you agree or disagree with using WhatsApp or what people use for their profile picture is irrelevant. The real issue here is that you invaded your mother’s privacy by looking where you shouldn’t. After your zoom session, you should have given her back the phone without snooping into her WhatsApp and seeing conversations that might have been private.
If you can’t control yourself from looking, then using an alternate method of connecting to zoom (or using the teleconference method) would be in order.Jewish Music – his mistake of looking at his mother’s stuff does not make the issue irrelevant. If i peek thru your window on shabbos and see you watching tv does my peeking make your behavior irrelevant? Am i then not allowed to wonder how you can watch tv on shabbos?
syag lachochma.
נהי that he is right hypothetically speaking, however would you post uh… i watched tv on shabbos is that fine?
The point is that if he looked at his mothers phone, and saw something which he thought is inappropriate, so get on with life as he knows its wrong. and vice versa.
I hope you DO undestand!!
He didn’t post asking if an aveira he did was wrong. He saw something that seemed to be questionable being done by frum yidden so he asked about it. If you have an answer of halachik or hashkofic relevance, post it. Telling him people can do whatever they want is not a torah based response unless yoy are saying its halachically permissible.
I am not a posek, and it says that אחד שפסק ואינו הוה פוסק חייב מיתה.
Secondly, I am not a chashuve mashgiach to be saying all random hashkofik thoughts which fly through my head and is probably no true, and by doing so could חס ושלום lead eventually to a krum hashkafos.
And that is why I am merely saying poshut things, since I dont get the guy who started it why would he ask a bunch of bored poeple in the coffe room for a psak or a right hashkafa.There again, I hope you DO understand!!
mishnayosyid- plenty of frum women use (tzanua) photos of themselves or their families for their WhatsApp, Facebook, etc. It’s entirely your mother’s choice whether or not she wants to use a profile picture.
To mishnayos yid:
You seriously never understood my point.
My point is that I don’t think I am some holtzy shtoltzy yid who has all the right hashkofas.
vehamaivin yavin.Secondly, you don’t use the word “has” when you are talking in singular. ודו”ק היטב
My social media profile picture is a picture of me as a kid. What’s the heter for that?
The Wolf
Unless a picture of you as a cub is of you in blackface, it shouldn’t be a problem.
Unless a picture of you as a cub
I hate to disillusion you but, contrary to popular opinion, I am not *actually* a wolf. 😀
The Wolf
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