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October 31, 2011 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #600264lemaysaMember
my dire was sprayed with rotten fish juice over yum tov because we had a leibdig simchas bias hashoeva to give chizuk to of the derech bochurim… whats the proper response and has anybody else ever been attacked??
October 31, 2011 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #833342happiestMemberDon’t know if it was the sikkrikim that did this but when I was in seminary a couple of years ago, girls would come back from meah shearim after having their clothing bleached. They were bleached because apparently they weren’t dressed tniuzsdkily, except I know they were. Whoever it was (sikrikim or not) did not like the invasion into “their” territory.
October 31, 2011 3:31 pm at 3:31 pm #833343gavra_at_workParticipantNathan Bedford Forrest
October 31, 2011 4:12 pm at 4:12 pm #833344chocandpatienceMemberI’m often in Meah Shearim, without seeing anything untoward. I’ve more than once noticed trouser-clad (female) tourists sauntering through the area – though they are rare – without anyone doing or saying anything to them.
It’s obviously a group of minority extremists
October 31, 2011 4:20 pm at 4:20 pm #833345soliekMembersomeone asked what the definition of chillul hashem was in another thread. in a word: sikrikim
October 31, 2011 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #833346aries2756ParticipantWhen people have nothing to do, they usually make trouble.
October 31, 2011 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #833347ZeesKiteParticipantaries2756: You know me personally???
October 31, 2011 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #833348🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantI beg to differ aries – when people have nothing to do they usually sit and post on the CR!
October 31, 2011 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #833349zahavasdadParticipantI had a co-worker who was in Israel over Succoh and she said , she was dressed ok, but up to certain standards (She was wearing Sandles)
A man with 2 children came up to her and cursed her , her husband was angry, but she thought it was funny
October 31, 2011 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #833350YehudahTzviParticipantThey must be addressed in a meaningful way that they will understand. If they damage property or cause loss, they should be detained and arrested and take to Beis Din. If they cause injury, they should be dealt with physically. This, of course, is my own opinion. But in my eyes these are not Jews. They are Eruv Rav thugs who are nothing but a Chilul Hashem.
October 31, 2011 9:59 pm at 9:59 pm #833351minyan galMemberzahavasdad, I can just imagine what kind of “pisks” these children will have when they are older (if not already). Then the parents will say “where are they picking up such foul language and bad habits from – it must be coming from their school.”
October 31, 2011 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #833352Sam2ParticipantSyag: Hal’vai that the people who cause trouble posted here instead.
October 31, 2011 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm #833353ItcheSrulikMemberThe sikrikim are a sect that has abandoned all pretenses of religious zeal and “kannaus l’shem shamayim.” They are a group who’s shita is to physically attack Jews aka antisemites.
November 1, 2011 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #833354Yserbius123ParticipantThey’re not in Yerushalayim, the recent attacks stemmed from a group centered in Ramat Beit Shemesh Aleph. There was an article in Ami magazine over Sukkos that discussed it.
November 1, 2011 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #833355lemaysaMemberbais is not the answer as u see by the incedent with manny’s book store because they all look out for each other they may be a small group but suprisingly alot of people from there respect what they do..
November 2, 2011 8:28 am at 8:28 am #833356m in IsraelMemberYserbius 123 — They most certainly are NOT in Ramat Beit Shemesh Aleph! The Beit Shemesh group (which is connected to the group in Yerushalayim) live at the edge of Ramat Beit Shemesh Bais, at the side bordering Sheinfeld — not even the side of RBSB that is near RBSA. The individual interviewed in the Ami article didn’t even live in Ramat Beit Shemesh at all, but in the Kiryah Chareidi of Beit Shemesh proper, which is actually pretty close to the area where these nuts live. Ramat Beit Shemesh A is quite a distance (over an hour walk) from there, and is actually a very normal place with a majority Anglo population.
I’m not sure what “recent attacks” you are referring to. The attacks on Manny’s as well as the recent beatings back and forth were carried out by the Yerushalayim people, not the Beit Shemesh ones. The Beit Shemesh nuts are involved in a fight with the Orot girls school at the border of the neighborhood, and have been protesting, calling names, throwing rocks, etc. there.
November 9, 2011 6:29 am at 6:29 am #833357Menachem101ParticipantYou guys are missing the whole point of this thing
November 9, 2011 2:54 pm at 2:54 pm #833358zahavasdadParticipantWhat IS the point?
I saw a dvar torah from someone quoted on this website Project (something) I forgot the rest
He said he was in Jerusalem and a chiloni saw he was a charedi and wanted to ask him a question, and he agreed, he wanted to know why charedim throw stones, He was an american so he wasnt totally on top of this. He was upset by the question
Later he saw a woman talking on a cell phone (on Shabbos) and when she saw him , she asked him if he was ANGRY, he said not angry but sad.
He said he NEVER heard of anyone who became religious because they had stones thrown at them, Nobody became religious because someone cursed at them
November 10, 2011 4:29 am at 4:29 am #833359just meParticipantLemaysa, was your leibidike kiruv keeping other people up? They weren’t right for spraying your dira with stinky stuff, but can you honestly say you didn’t do anything wrong?
November 10, 2011 7:20 am at 7:20 am #833360lemaysaMemberMenachem101
its about trying to clarify the issue of a small group claiming to represent religious jews and not behaving like that..and just me if u were ever in meah shearim succos you know that everyone up to late hours of the night going to toldos aron etc..plus the sikkrikim live a few blocks away in the neighborhood…the translation of sikkrikim actualy means gangsters which i think realy sums them up
November 22, 2011 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #833361Menachem101ParticipantYo Lemaysa Im there all the time getting cholent from Yoelis.
You know that place. Hes got awesome cholent. Anyway I think your just wrong!!!!
December 6, 2011 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #833362lemaysaMemberthats bec yoeli’s has security … but if u leave there theyll aqttack u in other stores
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