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November 7, 2019 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #1798564klugeryidParticipant
I was in the Mikva there, and I met a guy with goggles
November 8, 2019 12:36 am at 12:36 am #1798571anonymous JewParticipantJoseph. you’re in a dream world. Hate crime assaults against Jews totalled 17 in 2017 , 33 in 2018 and 19 in the first 6 months of 2019. And that doesn’t include assaults and muggings not classified as hate crimes
November 8, 2019 9:08 am at 9:08 am #1798608JosephParticipantAJ: Those numbers are mostly things like a punk graffiti spraying a swastika on a car, street or building overnight. IOW, in large part stuff like non-violent property defacements that are counted as anti-Semitic hate crimes.
November 8, 2019 9:10 am at 9:10 am #1798611JosephParticipantAJ: (to continue my other comment…) Unless you’re excluding non-violent property crimes in those figures. About wo crimes a month in a city of over eight million citizens, including two million Jews, seems rather very low. Many other cities with a much lower population, and an even lower proportion of Jews as part of the population, have higher crime figures. NYC has the lowest crime figures of any big city in the United States, per the FBI crime statistics.
November 8, 2019 9:53 am at 9:53 am #1798637anonymous JewParticipantMy numbers came from Levi Yitzchak Leifer, head of the Boro Park shmira patrol in an interview in Tablet magazine. And these are violent assaults, not property damage.Not a week goes by without reports of men being assaulted on way to shul on Shabbos . So, 19 assaults ( again only those defined as hate crimes; the 19 doesn’t include “routine” muggings ) makes them extremely safe neighborhoods?
November 8, 2019 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #1798646PhilParticipantAJ,
NYC is really quite safe and friendly to Jews but only if you bury your head in the sand and ignore the numerous incidents which have occurred just since the end of the summer:
HATE CRIME INVESTIGATION: Jewish Man Brutally Assaulted In Crown Heights Park
MORE HATE: Another Hasidic Man Assaulted With A Rock In Crown Heights
HATE IN FLATBUSH: Jewish Man Attacked On Avenue J, Hit With Belt, Anti-Jewish Slurs Used
HATE IN BELLE HARBOR (QUEENS): Swastikas & White Supremacist Messages Found On Beach
HATE IN FLATBUSH: Jewish Man Assaulted While Walking To Shul
HATE IN BORO PARK: Swastikas Found By Holocaust Survivor Inside Residential Building On 44 Street
MORE HATE IN BORO PARK: Swastika Scrawled On Hatzolah Volunteer Vehicle
HATE IN BROOKLYN: Suspect Set Fire On Steps Outside Park Slope Jewish Center
HATE IN CROWN HEIGHTS: Jewish Man Slapped In The Face By Black Suspect, Called “Dirty Jew”
Brooklyn: Hasidic Jews In Vehicle Attacked For Filming Violent Man [SEE THE VIDEO]
Don’t worry though, the mayor is on top of things, tweeting and promising gifts to criminals.
November 8, 2019 2:56 pm at 2:56 pm #1798648RachamimParticipantHi, I’ve lived in Baltimore for 40+ years. From the majority of comments here, it’s clear that many of the posters have either moved to Baltimore recently or have only visited Baltimore but don’t have a real knowledge or understanding of the community.
So to address some of the misinformation, there are 3 main areas where the frum yidden reside. Park Heights, Greenspring, and Dundalk.
Greenspring is the very upscale, posh neighborhood. Most homes sit on a minimum of 2 acres. The houses are all 7-8 bedrooms and every family has live-in help. The men in that neighborhood wear top hats to shul on Shabbos and the women all have a different sheitel for each day of the week. Many of the families there speak with a sort of upper-class, British accent.
Park Heights is pretty much the opposite of that. Most of the families there live in wooden shacks or tents without running water or electricity. They speak in somewhat of a “pidgin” English and they rarely go on vacations. Baltimore also has a thriving coal mining industry and the majority of frum Jews who live in Park Heights work in coal, either as miners or shift leaders.
Dundalk is the neighborhood that is probably most similar to Brooklyn. Huge thriving community. Shuls on every corner. Multiple minyan factories and pizza stores open till 3 AM. When you walk around on Erev Shabbos, its rare that you would even see non-frum yid. Everyone there wears the newest fashions, drives nice cars, and goes on upscale vacations. Most NYers who settle in Baltimore end up feeling most comfortable in Dundalk.
Happy to share additional info for anyone interested.
November 10, 2019 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm #1799000yehudayonaParticipantRachamim, best post of the decade, maybe even the century.
November 10, 2019 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #1799063GadolhadorahParticipantRachamim: You left out Baltimore’s single most significant attribute…..The Ravens are HOT….the Giants/Jets are NOT. Why would any self-respecting Yid want to continue suffering the busha of another losing season where the only reason to ever step foot into MetLife stadium is a siyum .
November 10, 2019 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #1799105BaltimoreMavenParticipantSo it’s an opportunity for 13 close friends or relatives to move all together and be close neighbors.
November 10, 2019 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #1799104BaltimoreMavenParticipant13 houses are right now for pre-sale on Fords Lane. Very Chareidi neighborhood right next to Bnos Yisroel. They will be custom built for under $300k each with granite Kosher kitchen, deck and 5-6 bedrooms. The development is called Maple Glen. 3 minutes walk to a bunch of Shuls.
November 10, 2019 8:59 pm at 8:59 pm #1799115yid38ParticipantI moved to Baltimore from Brooklyn 25 years ago. Don’t believe most of the negative stuff that people are posting. Sure, there’s unflattering occurrences now and then, but, all told Baltimore is a special place where everyone can fit in nicely. No machlokes, affordable housing, etc. This community has been growing for decades (especially young couples). Find out for yourself by spending some time here. Certain posters here have nothing to say but negative things. Let them come and see for themselves. Having lived in Brooklyn for over 40 years I know how special Baltimore is.
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