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December 25, 2012 3:16 am at 3:16 am #607562rebdonielMember
Among our less-observant brethren, there is a long-standing custom to eat Chinese food and go to the movies on Kretchmas.
Personally, I am looking forward to going to the Hakhel Yarchei Kallah, after which I will be eating Chinese food (probably at ShangChai) and catching the opening of Les Miserables.
What are others doing?
December 26, 2012 2:11 am at 2:11 am #916761mewhoParticipanti do shopping so that i have less running around to do on thusday eve
December 26, 2012 3:29 am at 3:29 am #916762147ParticipantWhat Yidden do on December 25th?
Last year and in 2016 & in 2019 I observe Chanukah, and recite full Hallel in praise of the wonderful day, as I do on Yom ha’Atzmaut & on Yom Yerusholayim.
In 2001 & in 2020 I observe Assoro b’Teves, and mourn the Johrzeit of Charly Chaplin who was Niftar on December 25, 1977.
December 26, 2012 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #916763nishtdayngesheftParticipant147,
So you say whole hallel in honor of “the day” on December 25th? Like you do ion Yom Hatzmaut and Yom Yerushalayim? I can see the congruence.
Do you trim a bush for all three as well?
December 26, 2012 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #916764rebdonielMemberNisht,
Don’t start attacking Religious Zionists. This forum cannot and will not become a forum to attack people who think differently from you.
December 26, 2012 2:34 pm at 2:34 pm #916765WIYMember“reb”doniel
You shouldn’t advertise on Yeshivaworld that you watch movies especially the likes of les miserables which is quite filthy.
I hope the people who come to you for “psak” are aware of your shmiras eynayim standards of which you will find zero heter for.
December 26, 2012 3:12 pm at 3:12 pm #916766DaMosheParticipantI drove my kids to school, and my wife to work.
Then I washed dishes, put away laundry, and did some other cleaning, so that my wife could relax when she got home.
Then I picked the kids up from school and spent time with them until they went to bed.
December 26, 2012 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #916767tzaddiqMemberwent skiing and spent quality time with my kids. Other than that, I had a regular schedule of Daf Yomi (morning) and Night Seder (evening). Of course I enjoyed driving through the empty streets around the neighbourhood. I must say, that everyone is so cheery and in a happy mood, that when I went shopping at the super market, everyone (the Goyim) was either humming a tune, singing, and wishing each other well. It’s a very positive, happy and enjoyable atmosphere wherever I go (especially in contrast to the 2nd and 3rd week of January) and it makes my outing that much more pleasant.
Is this wrong??
December 26, 2012 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #916768🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantDaMoshe – that’s the most heart warming thing I’ve read all day!
December 26, 2012 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #916769PBTMemberI spent the day learning, working on some personal finances, and went out to a Chinese buffet at Denver’s East Side Kosher Deli. I thought the blat scheduled for December 25, which discusses the tumah of Avodah Zorah, was particularly poignant for that day. Talked to my son in Yeshiva, where he was making phone calls for his Yeshiva’s raffle campaign.
December 26, 2012 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #916770rebdonielMemberLes Miserables is a fantastic novel and a classic story. And my love of French literature has little bearing on my ability to learn halakhic texts and render psak.
December 26, 2012 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #916771R.T.ParticipantDavening, learning, laundry, dishes, swept the floor, organized odds and ends, vacuuming the carpets, answered Shailas.
December 26, 2012 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #916772mewhoParticipantwe visited my shviger and food shopped for her . this way she doesnt have to go out in the cold or snow
December 26, 2012 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #916773apushatayidParticipantI was at work from 9-5.
December 26, 2012 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #916774WIYMemberrebdoniel
“my love of French literature has little bearing on my ability to learn halakhic texts and render psak.”
No but your utter lack of Yiras shomayim does!
December 26, 2012 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #916775Rav TuvParticipantsame here APY.
December 26, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #916776Rav TuvParticipantReb Doniel, I’m sure it relaxes you so you can render psak better.
December 26, 2012 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #916777rebdonielMemberLes Mis has nothing to do with yiras shamayim.
Being deficient in bein adam le chaveiro has a who lot to do with a lack of yiras shamayim, though.
December 26, 2012 11:10 pm at 11:10 pm #916778nfgo3MemberTo rebdoniel: Your fluency in French, in addition to your fluency in English, Hebrew and Aramaic, probably enhances your ability to understand Halachah.
December 26, 2012 11:29 pm at 11:29 pm #916779R.T.Participant“…utter lack of Yiras shomayim does”
I’m sorry, but I think that statement is uncalled for.
December 26, 2012 11:33 pm at 11:33 pm #916780popa_bar_abbaParticipantI think it is called for.
Also his am haaratzus.
December 27, 2012 1:57 am at 1:57 am #916781rebdonielMemberThank you, RT.
Those who disagree with the status quo are often attacked here, especially by the likes of Popa, who at least has the honesty and self-awareness to call himself “incorrigible.”
And Popa, having an opinion other than yours does not constitute am haratzus. Rabbi Norman Lamm called people like you “cavemen.” Ad hominem attacks on either side serve no toeles, and I am against personal attacks. Remember: Eleanor Roosevelt said that small minds discuss people, but great minds discuss ideas. I would hope to be able to take this to heart and keep my postings and real-life conversations focused more on ideas than petty gossip and lashon hara, which is not manly, nor constructive.
And regarding French. Knowing French helps when it comes to coming across “laz” comments that Rashi and Tosafot make in many different places. In the same spirit, I would like to learn Ladino, since many Ladino references are in the Shulchan Aruch (even knowing gastronomy helps learning halakha, like when the ShA talks about pashtida, a dish still made in the Near East and Maghreb), and Meam Loez is a Ladino work. Likewise, knowing Yiddish would be helpful in decoding Chassidus, and knowing Arabic would help me with some works of Rishonim. And German would help with Rav Hirsch and also academic texts.
December 27, 2012 8:16 pm at 8:16 pm #916782apushatayidParticipant“my love of French literature has little bearing on my ability to learn halakhic texts and render psak.”
I bet it helps with all those “LAZ” words Rashi keeps mentioning.
December 27, 2012 8:45 pm at 8:45 pm #916783shmendrickMemberOn the issue of Secular Studies (which are not tomeh) Rav Avraham Yitzchok Bloch in response to Rav Shwab’s question about
this issue:
“This that you asked me to clarify the halacha concering secular studies and the nature of the curriculum of the German schools. However it is extremely difficult in these matters to provide a clear halachic response. Because these matters are largely built upon hashkofa and principles which are derived from aggada….are so strongly influenced in the specific nature of the people involved as well as the particular circumstances they are living in and other sociological and psychological issues…”
The Minchas Elozor z’l in his sefer Divrei Torah is also meikel
on the subject of secular studies for German Jews.
This is not a “blanket” heter for everyone to just go waste their precious time on secular studies!
Those who study Torah have been rebuked for even spending too much time davening (see chazal: manichim chayay olom v’oskim b’chaya shaah – how can they give up time from their eternal life (Torah study) on matters that are temporary (davening for gashmiyus)).
But those who would spend time speaking loshon horah or c”v other avoros MIGHT be allowed to waste their time on “parave” secular studies. Although, the secular studies cause a timtum a’lev v’hamoach, as is evident from many comments from members that contradict da’as v’hashkofas Torah.
December 27, 2012 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #916785rebdonielMemberI don’t need or ant any advice from a self-dubbed shmendrick. I don’t subscribe to Lakewood hashkafot; don’t proselytize.
December 27, 2012 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #916786shmendrickMemberNot proselytizing – being mochiach as commanded in Hochayach Tochiach for those encouraging bittul torah, and being marbitz the great or hatorah of da’as torah to dispel the darkness of Hellenistic views propagated by the Enlightenment Movement, the Maskilim who later became the reform.
December 28, 2012 4:02 am at 4:02 am #916787mi puebloMemberPoor hocheiach tochiech. Its a good thing the lav of lo sisa doesn’t apply to it.
December 28, 2012 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #916788NaysbergMemberOn Dec. 25, Yidden mourn the rivers of Jewish blood spilled in the name of a false god. We mourn the suffering we had on this accursed date throughout 2,000 years. We remember the galochim inciting the masses at mass to kill Jews. The Jews who they accuse of deicide. And we are repulsed by the bloody holiday lights prevelent in our midst celebrating this bloody history.
December 31, 2012 3:31 am at 3:31 am #916790147ParticipantWe study Avodo Zoro Daf 8a, which discusses the winter solstice of the Northern Hemisphere in conjunction with Adam hoRishon, and all the various light festivals which have ensued in honor of the days commencing to get longer again.
If you are behind in this Gemoro, needless to say, you finish it off at Times Square whilst waiting for the ball to drop. Learning Gemoro is a sure way to keep you warm, because of becoming so involved in the study of Gemoro.
We lucky people get to finish off this Daf in the warmth of Sydney Harbor as we await the fireworks, some 16 hours before the ball shall be descending in Times Square.
December 31, 2012 3:37 am at 3:37 am #916791rebdonielMemberNaysberg,
Tisha b’Av is the proper day to mourn antisemitism.
I don’t find the lights to be “bloody.” I think it’s admirable that in this day and age, people have a conviction in something.
January 1, 2013 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #916792shmendrickMemberSome of us commemorate nitel and others commemorate Yom Ha’Atzomos. To each his own!
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