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November 21, 2012 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #606318caleeforniaMember
What do i wear on first date?
Its for a shidduch date,but not super yeshivish (i’m not dating a kollel or BMG boy)
High heels? Nice dress that is only for shabbos but is classy and not to wedding? or nice sweater and wedges???
help. it’s tonight
November 21, 2012 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #910395caleeforniaMemberanyone?????
November 21, 2012 8:37 pm at 8:37 pm #910396HealthParticipantQ: What do i wear on first date?
A: Clothes, not a gorilla suit.
Seriously, it really depends on the guy. The MO crowd – the couple dresses casual, but nice. The Yeshivishe crowd – the couple dresses like on Shabbos.
November 21, 2012 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #910397popa_bar_abbaParticipantWear a nice shabbos outfit. Most girls don’t wear fancy like wedding.
Wear heels only if you know he’ll still be taller. You remember that because heel sounds like he’ll.
November 21, 2012 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #910398caleeforniaMemberA few hours to go. Any suggestions, please please
November 21, 2012 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #910399more_2MemberMaybe if he’s on here he should have the pick of what you should wear.
Chill it’ll all be fine!!
Hatzlocha
November 21, 2012 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #910402caleeforniaMemberHealth: Im not MO and not yeshivish…so what do i do??
do any other girls have advice? im a meohr type girl, if that helps any!
November 21, 2012 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #910403tbrr123MemberWear a nice shabbos outfit. Something dressier than everyday. Makeup of course, do your hair. You can wear nice flats or heels. Just wear something you feel comfortable in and won’t feel like you have to adjust like the whole night or worry about.
November 21, 2012 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #910404Mimah nafshachMemberas a guy from personal experience, not too much makeup
November 21, 2012 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #910405caleeforniaMemberBut all my Shabbos stuff are reeeaally nice (and expensive)…is that too much?
November 21, 2012 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #910406popa_bar_abbaParticipantThe general practice is that your skirt should be just long enough that it covers your knees when you are sitting, but needs to be “tugged” about every 5 minutes. You should practice while sitting on the couch at home to ensure this precise length.
Since this is your first date, we’ll also be nice and give real advice.
Relax, it is no big deal.
It is not awkward if there are silences for a few minutes. That happens in normal conversation with even friends.
Don’t think about whether it is going good, until you are back home.
Smile, be nice to him. He’ll be nice to you.
Be a good listener. People tend to think you are good at conversation if you listen to them.
You’re going to be fine; you will be the same good person tomorrow no matter how awkward it can be, no matter how much you dislike spending time with him, no matter how much you thought it was good but he didn’t want to date you anymore.
And most of all: give us a full report when you get home (jk).
November 21, 2012 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm #910407caleeforniaMemberHaha PBA all my skirts are exactly like that (besides for a few which are long enough)
And im not worried about the date or anything, only about what to wear (I’m a girl afterall)
November 21, 2012 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #910408tbrr123MemberWear your Shabbos stuff. If you regularly dress well, then do that on a date too.
November 21, 2012 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #910409WIYMembercaleefornia
Wear something with color. Black is soooooo boring, and you will come off as boring and yeshivish like all those boring yeshivish girls that always wear black.
November 21, 2012 10:19 pm at 10:19 pm #910410batsevenParticipantCaleefornia- as a girl in the shidduch parsha, my personal opinion is that you wear shab. def. but not wedding. I would wear heels if you r comft. walking in them.
Good Luck!
November 21, 2012 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #9104112morecentsParticipantWear whatever you have that you think make you look the nicest and makes you comfortable, then forget about it. If the choices of clothes and words you speak work, then the shidduch is still a go for potentially a 2nd date. If things don’t fly, then the shidduch isn’t a go and you guys call it quits. It’s really very simple so don’t worry about it. There’s no right or wrong here. Just relax and basically the date will go in one of 2 directions.
Take 2 or 3 minutes to say 2 perakim of tehillim before you go out. I know you have a million things to do now but tefillah for a couple of minutes is a wise thing to do as well. You’ll get all the help you need from shemayim and won’t have to reach out to the coffee room for help if you do.
If you do go out again, you might want to print out all these answers and read them to the boy for fun on a future date.
November 21, 2012 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #910412caleeforniaMemberWIY I was actually thinking of wearing s/t dark (navy or black) or neutral colored. I have a lot of color in my wardrobe (orange purple pink blue) but not first date clothes or even second date for that matter
November 21, 2012 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #910413caleeforniaMemberI guess ill have to risk looking yeshivish. classy can sometimes be mistaken as yeshivish (companies like kate spade and jcrew and those names. their obviously not yeshivish, because kate spade is not even jewish! but sometimes can look very yeshivish)
November 21, 2012 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #910414caleeforniaMemberoh the reason i want to know what to wear is because im not sure where he is taking me. if to a hotel lounge then dressy and heels is fine, but what if we go to starbucks? ill look like a clown
November 21, 2012 10:37 pm at 10:37 pm #910415tbrr123Memberbeen there… and you won’t look like a clown. you’ll just look good.
November 21, 2012 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm #910416farrocksMemberpopa: “Wear a nice shabbos outfit. Most girls don’t wear fancy like wedding.”
Off topic, but why do girls dress nicer for a wedding than they do for Shabbos Kodesh?
November 22, 2012 1:10 am at 1:10 am #910418No One Mourns The WickedMember“But all my Shabbos stuff are reeeaally nice (and expensive)…is that too much?”
There is something so inherently annoying about that sentence.
“because kate spade is not even jewish!”
Most designers aren’t, even the ones that design ultra religious styles..
Hope you made the right choice of outfit!
November 22, 2012 2:28 am at 2:28 am #910419popa_bar_abbaParticipantNu?
November 22, 2012 2:44 am at 2:44 am #910420HealthParticipantWIY -“Wear something with color. Black is soooooo boring, and you will come off as boring and yeshivish like all those boring yeshivish girls that always wear black.”
Now I was always under the impression that the reason they wear black is because it’s slenderizing. In other words they look thinner than they are. We all know that in our day and age -obesity is a big problem in both genders.
November 22, 2012 2:45 am at 2:45 am #910421WIYMemberPopa
Shes on a date give her some space!
P.s. That nu can have multiple meanings depending on how much of a yenta you are.
November 22, 2012 2:54 am at 2:54 am #910422popa_bar_abbaParticipantShes on a date give her some space!
Well, I assume she ducks into the bathroom at some point to check YWN on her iphone.
November 22, 2012 3:45 am at 3:45 am #910423more_2MemberAre u guys engaged yet?
November 22, 2012 4:37 am at 4:37 am #910424locaMemberLet me simplify it for you- look good. Seriously, it doesnt matter all that much what type of outfit you wear, it matters if it looks good on you. Thats all.
November 22, 2012 11:37 am at 11:37 am #910425MurphysLawMembercaleefornia:
As we have not heard from you for 13 Hours, I guess the date failed.
Better luck next time.
Perhaps, you should not be getting your dressing tips from YWN coffee room!
November 22, 2012 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #910426twistedParticipantFarkert, Health, she should go for the gorilla suit. It makes a statement, is definitely style, and think how easy the conversation will flow. Some of you folks just can’t think out of the box.
November 22, 2012 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #910427mommamia22ParticipantPopa
GREAT advice and well written!
Loca
I totally agree
November 22, 2012 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #910428oomisParticipantSome of you folks just can’t think out of the box. “
Yeah, the crackerjacks box!
November 22, 2012 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #910429oomisParticipantOff topic, but why do girls dress nicer for a wedding than they do for Shabbos Kodesh”
Do a kallah and chosson not dress up more than for a typical Shabbos? Clearly the chassunah has a certain sartorial status that begs the wearing of a certain type of clothing. Nonetheless, people SHOULD dress up for Shabbos in their best clothing, even if not wedding style.
(Also, some girls want to make Shidduchim, and they will be seen by and converse with more people at the wedding than on a typical Shabbos at Shul)
November 22, 2012 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #910430HealthParticipanttwisted -“Farkert, Health, she should go for the gorilla suit. It makes a statement, is definitely style, and think how easy the conversation will flow.”
I hear your point, but would YOU go out a second time if your date showed up in a gorilla suit?
November 22, 2012 6:41 pm at 6:41 pm #910431ChulentMemberWear a nice shabbos outfit. Most girls don’t wear fancy like wedding.”
Off topic, but why do girls dress nicer for a wedding than they do for Shabbos Kodesh?
Do a kallah and chosson not dress up more than for a typical Shabbos? Clearly the chassunah has a certain sartorial status that begs the wearing of a certain type of clothing. Nonetheless, people SHOULD dress up for Shabbos in their best clothing, even if not wedding style.
A Choson and Kallah are a Melech and Malka. So it is clearly justifiable that they dress up.
But a person should certainly dress up on Shabbos Kodesh more so than for a wedding. Certainly not the reverse.
(Also, some girls want to make Shidduchim, and they will be seen by and converse with more people at the wedding than on a typical Shabbos at Shul)
This is wrong. They shouldn’t be conversing with guys. And they certainly shouldn’t be dressing up for guys. That is as wrong as it gets. And Yeshivish girls are not shopping themselves to men at weddings, G-d forbid. And if they are conversing with other women at the wedding reception who may know someone for them, they certainly do not have to dress to the hilt, or dress to kill, for other women. Dressing as nicely for a wedding as they do for Shabbos Kodesh is certainly more than sufficient. More than that is very wrong.
Clearly these girls are dressing up as they do for all the wrong reasons.
November 22, 2012 7:26 pm at 7:26 pm #910432L. NormansonMemberI feel very intelligent reading all these comments…
November 22, 2012 8:53 pm at 8:53 pm #910433Torah613TorahParticipantThe responses in this thread were very entertaining.
Shabbos vs. Chasuna – I’ve heard that your best should be for both, is there a halacha about it?
November 22, 2012 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #910434icedMemberThere’s no halacha that you need to dress your best for a wedding. Only Shabbos.
November 22, 2012 11:50 pm at 11:50 pm #910435more_2MemberNo Halacha. For shabbos you are walking around in the streets so it’s best not to dress to kill’ but for a wedding considering the fact that there are separate entrances you can dress as gorgeous as u like… Like dressing to kill or wtvr… I’d say shabbos if you over dress you are selling yourselves to guys more than weddings.
November 23, 2012 12:35 am at 12:35 am #910436icedMemberDressing to kill is pritzus and always assur.
November 23, 2012 6:22 am at 6:22 am #910437Veltz MeshugenerMemberDressing to kill likely involves camouflage and would be inappropriate for a date unless you were in the deep south. Also, it raises questions of chukas hagoyim and pikuach nefesh.
November 23, 2012 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #910438WIYMemberIced
Well unfortunately many frum females today dress to kill mens (and their own) neshamos. Sad reality.
November 25, 2012 9:03 am at 9:03 am #910439interjectionParticipant“Well unfortunately many frum females today dress to kill mens (and their own) neshamos. Sad reality.”
They don’t give enough hashkofa for it in the Bais Yaakovs. All they give is the rules.
November 25, 2012 10:13 am at 10:13 am #910440more_2MemberInterjection- sounds like you’re out to change the world IMHO !!
November 25, 2012 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #910441Veltz MeshugenerMemberInterjection, considering the way they present the rules, I don’t think we ought to trust them for the hashkafah.
November 25, 2012 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #910442WIYMemberInterjection
I never attended a BY so I dont know. I find that hard to believe but if its true then these BYs are wasting their time…But I dont see why the girls arent strongly encouraged to read up on it on their own. There must be a few good sefarim in English or Hebrew that talk about it…
I mean really there arent that many mitzvos asked of a girl to perform….
November 25, 2012 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #910443Torah613TorahParticipantDoes dressing to kill refer to wearing cockroach killers?
November 25, 2012 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #910444twistedParticipantI am long past the parsha Health, I was just offering some sage contrariness. The second date would of course depend on the response of the other, to, humor aside, respond to the challenge and judge by pnimiyus, and not focus on the externals however contrived they may or may not be. As the thread has take a turn to the serious, consider this: as Interjection says, (tip of iceberg) there is no hashkofo in the modern curriculum, only rules. The rules have been distilled down to two: not tzamud, and not attention grabbing. So the gorilla suit excels in one and fails the other.
November 25, 2012 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #910445OneOfManyParticipantNo, I think the convention for “dressing to kill” is more commonly all black, which makes sense – I hear frum women have gained some notoriety for that. But what with the black ski masks and etc., I can’t imagine why anyone would have objections on grounds of tznius…
November 25, 2012 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm #910446ToiParticipantDont wear a sheitel.
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