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I still have my etrog and don’t know what to do with it. I can’t throw it out because it’s kedushat shvi’it. Do I just let it sit and rot?
Make a brocho and eat it.
If i’m not mistaken you can let it rot & burn it with the chametz. (If you are not interested in eating it).
If the esrog came from Israel because of shmita it needs to be returned to Israel. This is usually done by returning it to the place where you purchased it. I am not sure of the halachic issues here but a Rabbi will help you out. This is what we were told to do with our Israelie origin Esrogim
Or, totally stud the esrog with cloves and keep as Bisomim.
Make Esrog Jam and eat it on Tu B’shvat.
An idea I had was to stick whole Cloves in the Esrog, so the Esrog is completely covered with the Cloves. Then the Esrog could be used to smell for Havdalah. You could cut up the Esrog and make candied Esrog to be eaten for Tu Beshvat. Also Esrogim Liquor is very nice. I do not know recipes for the candied Esrog or the Esrogim Liquor, but I have eaten the Candied., and drunk the Liquor.
dacht zich mir az der zman biur shoen over. peiros sheviis achar zman biur mai…..
Jfem02 as I said I am not sure of all the halachos regarding shmitta but I do know there are guidlines to follow. Ask your Rav, don’t listen to the advice of some of the idiots here !!!
Why? Do you also have a shmitta esrog that you held on to?
I take back what I said. Apparently, zman biur is not until the beginning of Shevat, which means there is still time.
This is from Degel Yerushalayim.
Don’t put cloves in a Shmitta esrog, it is considered destroying it. Also do not put it in the fire for biyur chometz. The esrog must be made hefker in Eretz Yisroel by the beginning of Shvat, so don’t save it for Tu B’Shvat either. There is a machlokes if making jam is considered normal use of an esrog or destruction. Even according to those who are lenient, it must be finished before Shvat.
Yes, you can let it rot and then discard it as you normally would. Once it is not edible you may discard it.
Return it where it came from? Ridiculus……….
Yanky55 – no, you do not let shmitta esrogim rot and discard them. There are complicated halochos with esrogim as opoose to other Israelie produce
Don’t paskan on shmitta if you don’t know what you’re talking about. As I said above, to Jfem02 call a Rov / Dayan.
When you’ve done that then come back and tell me he said to let a sahmitta Esrog from Israel rot and then discard it
PS don’t use the word ridiculous on something you know nothing about.
If you still have your Etrog, on the box that we all purchased (that contained the Etrog) are written instructions hopefully. My Etrog Box said when the Etrog shrivels up, I should toss the Etrog in the garbage. I think many Etrogim used during Succot were grown in EY. Since this past Succot we all finished a Shmita Year, one cannot push clove pods through the Etrog and use it as basamim.
we always burn ours by bee’or chametz!!!
asdfghijkl-Normally you can burn the Etrogim with the Chametz, but not when the Etrogim were grown in EY during Shmita.
yankdownunder: oh i only read the thread title!!!
Be careful!
Do NOT use it for besomim. You are not allowed to be “mekalkel” a fruit that has kedushat shviis. You’re supposed to let it rot or eat it (entirely – including the rind) before the “zman biur”. The zman biur in E”Y is different than the zman biur in the US. I belive that you would need to eat it prior to Tu B’Shvat, which I believe is past the Zman Biur.
In any event, as our fellow members have suggested, this is a very complicated issue and you should follow the strict psak of your Rav. Please don’t delay asking him. Time may be of essence.
ERRATA ALERT!!
Correction to my previous post. Instead of “follow the strict psak of your Rav”, it should say “strictly follow the psak of your Rav”.
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Lol
simply ask your LOR!!!!
Stick whole cloves in it and leave it in your breakfront (or anywhere) and use it for Besamim by Havdala. It’s a “reyach min Gan Eden!”
Ashreinu- LeiderLeider has the right aitza, because the Etrog was grown during Shmita the Etrog cannot be used for Basamin. It either needs to shrivel up and be thrown in the garbage, or eaten with the rind before it is spoiled and rotten. At that point you also throw it in the garbage. The Etrog is also to not be burned with the rest of the chametz for the above reason. A Rav. should be consulted before you decide to anything with your Etrog.
Ashreinu: It’s a great idea, but not this year unless you have one from Morocco, California, Italy etc. You can’t do that to a Shmitta esrog from EY.
Do NOT stick cloves in it and use it for besamim. Even though the idea sounds spiritually lofty, it is not permitted. One is not permitted to buy or sell (issur schorah) or change the appearance/shape (shinui tzurasah) of something that has kedushas shvi’is. Sticking cloves in an esrog is unquestionably changing its structure.
There is an opinion (the Ramban)that it is a mitzvah to eat peoros shvi’is including the esrog. Since (almost) nobody actually eats one, but many like to make jam out of it, this is permitted. One must make it hefker by the time that it is not readily available in the fields, which is around the month of Shvat.
If one leaves it lying around, it does not “rot”, it just dries up. This is because there is almost no fruit inside, and obviously is also why almost no one eats it, jam making being for the very industrious among us. When it is dried up, it no longer has kedusha as it is no longer a fruit. It may then be discarded in a respectful way, such as we do with all peiros shvi’is.
It is quite sad that in a highly Torah minded community such as YWN, so very little is known about this topic. Whether one lives in Israel or not, it is part of Torah and should be studied, more so than many of the other topics discussed here.
“Blue Shirt”, the second issur you are referring to is “Hefsed/ruining”, and not “shinuy tzura”. One actually may change the form of Shmitta fruit such as to make jam, juice or wine, provided it is considered the “normal” usage of that fruit. Whether or not this applies to an esrog is a machlokes HaPoskim. In any event. sticking cloves in an esrog makes it shrivel much faster and would be considered “hefsed” and is not allowed.
PM, you are correct. Some poskim use shinui tzura and hefsed interchangeably, as a shinui tzurah that is not normally done on a given fruit is essentially being mafsid it. For instance, as you correctly pointed out, making wine out of grapes is clearly a shinui tzurah, but just as clearly a normal use of the grapes.However, this is not the case with an esrog and besamim. You are also correct that not all poskim approve of kedushas shvi’is esrog jam. Yasher koach.
Jfem, I was surprised to discover this, but the Agudah in Blatimore did publish that psak on its bulletin board. Of course, you are far away now so you didn’t read it. Glad you asked for yourself.
The psak that I follow is what I said above, namely eat it or return it. I follow mine and you follow yours and for once, sholom al hacoffee room!
Squeak, do you know someone who says “and shalom al yisroel” a lot? Has an Iranian accent? Talks about how russian fathers have educated their children for centuries?
-did you write Blatimore on purpose?
frum – I’m very surprised that anyone got my reference. I wrote Baltimore because a)jfem is from Baltimore and b)that is where I saw the sign posted. What other city could I have written? That little bit was just a joke I added in.
PS – I am not from Baltimore (if I didn’t say this, the mods would probably expose me anyway)
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