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I am a frum and solid bais yakov girl graduating this year. I am deciding what to do next year. Everyone is going to seminary but I think that might be a waste of time. I don’t think I’m missing any hashkafa being born in a solid frum home…. my parents gave me the option of also going to college like landers for woman in mannhaten or st…I wanna be a teacher but after being in highschool I’m rlly not in the mood of going back to skool again only harder this time…I’m not an acedemoc person. Or maybe I was thinking to get a job in a preschool, I lovekids and used to run a lot of babysitting programs and I worked in a lot of day camps…but I don’t think it will be easy for a girl. Just out of highschool to get a job… I need help! If sem…WHICH ONE???? College????? And I rlly want the job…..but where would I find one????? IF ANYONE HAS AN IDEA OF WHR I CAN GET A JOB OR WHAT SHOULD I DO PLS SUGGUST! Thanks!
Have you been to E”Y? I think it’s worth going to seminary just for the experience of living there, even if you don’t think you “need” the hashkafa or education.
I second JF – a year in sem is not necessarily about the classes, it provides a very good foundation for the rest of your life. Spending a year living in a dorm with other girls is major education of itself.
I was also born in a solid frum home, and I gained so much from the hashkafa I learned in sem. Besides, the very fact that you think you don’t need it shows that you actually do, cause every person has room to grow. Now that I am married, I remind myself of the lessons my teachers gave me on marriage and setting up a home and it helps to keep me focused on what my role in my marriage is. These are the kind of lessons you won’t get by staying at home.
After high school I would usually have a snack and then start on my homework.
I’m a boy so I don’t really have a place on this thread. But I would recommend you to go to seminary. You may think you’re not missing any hashkafa but once you get there you’ll find a whole world out there that you didn’t know about. There are different seminaries for different types of girls. There are ones who are for girls like you who grew up in a solid torah home. There are ones for girls on a less hashkafic level and so on and so forth down to ones for girls who are newly baalei teshuva. Ask your teachers for help on where to go. You can continue to grow. (I also don’t know if you’re thinking about this now but it would do better for shidduchim if you went to seminary than college.)
the pt of seminary is not to get hashkafa you wud be missing otherwise. if oyu think that you should definitely go to sem.
I agree. The point of seminary is to eat ice cream and daven at the kosel and eat ice cream.
I think it’s worth going to seminary just for the experience of living there . . .
A year of seminary can hardly be called “living in Israel.”
The point of seminary is to eat ice cream and daven at the kosel and eat ice cream.
I happened to be heading to a business meeting in Yerushalayim between Yom Kippur and Sukkot. I was on the train, and I overheard a group of sem girls talking. One of them said, “Yeah, I don’t have school until after Succos. I guess I’ll just go to Ben Yehuda everyday, eat ice cream, and get fat.” I had to turn my head towards the window to keep from laughing out loud.
LevAryehBoy: the girls that are eating ice cream, davening at the kosel and eating ice cream are the same ones who come to seminary to learn about hashkafa they would be missing otherwise.
So they go to learn the proper hashkafa with regard to when to go to the kosel and when one should eat ice cream?
i went to the wrong seminary for my needs, hated every minute of the actual sem, and tiyulim taken with sem, but i do not regrret going even for one minute! just being in the right atmosphere can do so much. i am definitely a better person in hashem’s view. its just the land the kedusha, the kosel, being away from most things that make it harder….. and, theres really no such thing as too much hashkafa….. no matter how much you’ve learnt, there’s always more to learn. were put herre on this world to grow, there’s no finish line. you gotta keep changing and becoming better.
and those of you talking about the ice cream, let them its the final year where they can still rely on daddys cc. give them the pleasure, real life starts real quick, and its merciless….:)
Go to Israel for an extended period of time, whether to seminary or not. Even if you do nothing but go to the Kosel and eat ice cream, you will still gain just by being there.
LevAryehBro, you have no idea what you are talking about. It’s frozen yogurt.
Israel is not for everyone!! If you don’t feel like it would be right for you, then by all means, stay home. There are half day and night seminaries if you’d like. Having a college degree would definitely help you for your job later one, but you don’t necessarily need to start college right away. As for schools to work in, many schools take assistants straight from high school. If you’d like to be a teacher there are some schools that might take you. The only name I know off-hand is Ahi Ezer but I’m sure there’s many more. Good luck!
I’d recommend speaking to someone, figure out if you want college, seminary or and work.
You technically can do all three I know there are programs for 1/2 day sem, work /or college (college sundays too).
Good Luck! Take it easy and enjoy your year!! don’t kill yourself trying to make the decision you can always figure it out the next year(s) as well!!
Machon, Bais Yaakov, Machon Basya Rachel are half day. Ateres Naava may also be but not sure.
My sister went to Nachalas, and she’s insane. But she’s not there anymore.
Zislik has the best ice cream. And smoothies.
VM: its Nachlas not Nachalas. And I know 69 girls very well who went to Nachlas and none of them were insane
never even heard of it. cute name
its a great sem that doesnt focus on academics as the main thing. they give the girls very solid hashkafos.
I think you should go to Peninim because they go on trips all the time and only learn half day and from the posts you wrote you sound like a perfect fit! Would you be interested in Peninim?
If we’re talking about sems that aren’t heavy on the academics, you should also look into places like pninim and ateres. I went to pninim and loved every minute of it!
abbybar33, going to seminary is a fantastic experience even if you come from a solid home. There’s so much to learn and if you have the opportunity it can be very beneficial for you even on a social level. If you would like to work part time, or teach or whatever, then you can look into half-day seminary.
You are essentially the only one that can decide what’s right for you. You need to think about it and figure out what it is that would work for you. If you feel that you want to get a head start on getting a degree, then of course you might want to do college instead, or at the same time. But if you were not considering college, and haven’t decided on a job yet, so maybe you should consider seminary.
And in regards to careers, nobody can really tell you. You have to pursue something that you know you would enjoy doing. Good luck.
It’s claimed to be modern but its really a bais yaakov type – mixed – not everyone that goes there is modern especially not the girl i know is going with her best friend the same year as you to there she wants to marry a kollel guy! I know girls that went there that are married to kollel guys! It has trips ALL THE TIME!!! It has half day learning.They also have a course where they teach you how to give haircuts and do sheitels and so that way when you go home you can make $!
Do you want to come back as the following:
1. I love to learn and I want to marry someone learning in Kollel and I want to learn right now:) – go to BJJ
OR:
2. I love going on trips! I love talking to friends! I love having a new skill to cut hair and do shaitels! I love making new friends and having time to do things with them! I want to marry someone who is in Kollel or learns and works!:) – go to Peninim
Not sure about Keser Chaya… My sister didn’t go there, and she’s insane.
Shanifirst – did you go to pninim? What year?
We did have quite a lot of trips, but it’s not really half day learning, it just has a break for a couple of hours after lunch. Some days classes start again at 4pm, some days at 6pm. It has a very wide range of girls, some more modern, some who came from more chareidi families, but we were all girls who didn’t want to go to the ‘typical’ beis yaakov sem. I went there cause I didn’t want heavy academics and medrash reports every week, I wanted to learn about my purpose in life and how to set up my own home with the right hashkafos.
I didn’t go but a bunch of my sisters did and my sister is going there next year! And from what there saying that’s how i feel about Peninim and BJJ and my sister said the same thing like you but they LOVED it there:) I just chose BJJ over Peninim cause i want to learn FULL day:)
just go to half day right here in brooklyn.
PBA everyone knows those are just time wasters.
PBA everyone knows those are just time wasters.
half-time wasters. As opposed to the full time wasters.
For what it’s going to cost your parents, I hope you get something out of it besides getting fat from eating ice cream.
For what it’s going to cost your parents, I hope you get something out of it besides getting fat from eating ice cream.
Hey! There’s children starving in Africa who are dying to get fat. And even some people in America who want to get fatter.
True dat pba! But once you’re wasting your time you may as well do something you might gain from!
Frankly, fkelly, I try not to gain too much even while I’m wasting my time :).
fkelly: Frequent posters burn tons of calories typing posts on yeshiva world.
It seems the general consensus is that seminary in Israel offers a very inspiring, ice-cream-filled year.
I don’t know if the ice cream is worth seminary tuition.
But it’s definitely worth the plane ticket.
seminary is an opportunity to get a year of the college experience (partying) thereby getting it out of your system so you can do and 1 year BA program and have your masters by age 20. It saves a lot of time wasting.
I thinks its great
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