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Hey guys, haven’t been here for a while I’m back on for an extended off-shabbos.
As someone who lives in E. Israel here is What really needs doing in E. Israel
Let’s forget about the Norwegian Law and Deri – obviously it’s very good but it doesn’t really help the average Joe.
The first thing that needs doing is to BUILD. But like really. really BUILD. Maybe 50000 apartments. maybe more. This is undoubtedly the simplest thing necessary for the average guy.
The second thing that needs doing is serious improvements in transport. Which other OECD country has traffic lights on the main roads between the biggest cities? one lane roads leading to major towns?
Here is what needs doing
a) building and OPENING a TWO or THREE lane road from Har Chotzvim to Ramat Shlomo. [This alone will immediately affect the exorbitant rental prices in the main part of Yerushalayim.]b) building a TWO or THREE lane road direct from Yerushalayim to Bet Shemesh and the South. At the present moment one has to first travel NORTH-WEST on highway 1 to reach Beit Shemesh, Ashdod, Beer Sheva etc …. [besides for saving time, gas, travel expenses, and making houses in these places far more attractive to live, a side benefit – this will have a major influence on traffic at the current entrance to Yerushalayim.]
c) building and OPENING a TWO or THREE lane road from kiryat Sefer to the Highway 443 – instead of the current one lane road
d) getting rid of the traffic lights, and inserting SOLUTIONS by the entrance to Givat sha’ul -which will include the option for one to go directly from Givat Sha’ul on to the Begin Road in either direction. Ditto by Shmuel Hanavi Bar Ilan, and all the further intersections leading to Ramot and along the entire 443 highway. Ditto for Sderot Eshkol /Eretz chaifetz, the entrance to B’nei Berak/ Givat Shmuel, and in Beit Shemesh by the junction of the 38 and 3855 – and many mnay other places
e) the Highway 90 – expanding to two or three lanes in each direction. [this will enable access to Beit she’an and Teverya which both offer far cheaper housing options, offer people who are prepard to travel more options of competition and better prices, and will take a small amount of the traffic to Karmiel and Tzefas off the highways 1 and 6]
f) installing a trolley system in the Israel train services. At the present time there is no way to take a luggage cart from the airport to the train or in the Jerusalem station. Simply installing such a system will make life much easier for international travelers and cut back on the traffic on the Highway no 1.
g) increasing public trasport options between Kiryat Sefer and Beitar and the tows which are further. [This will benefit everyone tremendously, and allow businesses in these places to attract customers etc … encourage their children to be able live in the north or South]
all these ideas, if implemented would be of literally UNLIMITED toi’eles harabbim
If anyone is ready to meet up with me with a few spades and start digging we are set. Alternatively maybe someone can simply publish this in a more formal think tank …..
You seem to be under the illusion that only chareidim exist
Zushy: Really good ideas. Several of these projects (some in slightly different configuration) have been included in the long-term capital budget for years, but have been deferred over and over for lack of funding and then Covid. When a project is finally given the NIS and authorization to proceed, they then have to navigate multiple obstacles from (i) nutcases on the right claiming the construction will traverse through an area with kevorim (even though the rabbonim and secular experts have concluded the opposite) and the nutcases from the left claiming that the surviving population of some nearly extinct bug is living in the path of the new road.
You seem to be under the Chareidi that only illusions exist.
Zushy, what I don’t understand, and perhaps you or others can explain, is that the Chareidi parties of UTJ and Shas have been in almost every Netanyahu government. And Netanyahu has been running the Israeli government for the last 11 straight years, except for about one year.
With the Chareidi parties part of the Netanyahu governments, why haven’t the Chareidi parties have gotten all those issues you mentioned above fixed under Netanyahu?
And if they haven’t, why do they keep supporting and joining Netanyahu?
Zushy, I’m curious. Where is all the money coming from to implement your plans?
Why all the paranoia and self righteous indignation? I never said anything anti chareidi or even brought up the subject. I myself identify with chareidim.
I just thought that the OP’s post seemed to be focused only on chareidi related infrastructure, and it appears to be oblivious to everything else. Chareidim are not 20% of the country, it is about 12% so it’s a little weird to be expecting all thisTwo things: first of all, there are currently TWO light rail stations in close proximity to zhvill-mir, namely the shimon hatzadik and shivtei Yisrael stations. Adding another station at the midway way point would cause a tremendous time waster for everyone.
Second: your whole thing is that the Israeli government should take the transportation needs of chareidim into account. But they are currently trying to build a light rail line through bar Ilan, which would make transportation in a predominantly chareidi area exponentially easier, and they have been met with nothing but anger and protesting throughout the process. So why would they go out of their way to try and make transportation easier for a community that clearly would rather not have it?
They need to bump their speed limits up—the highest it gets, on a freeway, is 110 kmh. An average city street is 40 kmh.
Some streets should certainly have such limits–the two-lane curvy roads with space for one car and maybe a pedestrian–but many streets could be higher.
And the ridiculous speed bumps every 3 meters, which breaks the wheels unless you’re driving half the speed limit……We read in another thread that charedim do not need no state and no taxes, and in another thread that charedim do not need no education because they are successful businessmen. So, just call your baalei tzedoka and start these worthy infrastructure projects.
sorry zushy, but most people who live in the rommema part of yirmiyahu dont have their own cars
Zushy, while I appreciate the effort it took to answer my question, like a politician, you didn’t answer my question: where is all the money going to come from to pay for all this?
And Participant, there’s no need to raise the speed limit on Kvish 6, because nobody drives that speed anyway. I drove to Yerushalayim and back today, and my cruising speed on Kvish 6 from Beersheva to Soreq was 120, and there were many cars passing me.
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