What is the English word for 'fargin'

I don’t remember, but Rabbi Reisman had a shiur a few years back called “Fargin, Farkook, Fargess” where he tried to define them in english.

Antonym: Begrudge.

As ‘msseeker’ hinted…

The English would be to ‘NOT begrudge’.

There is no such word in German. Yidden made the word.

Haleivi: Yiddish is mostly derived from German. It makes sense therefore that ‘fargin’ does too in some way. Are you an expert in Old German to be able to refute this?

Shlishi: So what – the point still is that no such word exists in Hebrew/ Loshon Hakodesh.

It certainly has a Germanic equivalent, though i do not care to opine on whether thisis in fact its root. The word in German is vergonnen (with an umlaute on the o) which is a compound of the root word gonnen.

Fact; there isn’t a word for “fargin” in English or in Hebrew. It was disscused here in the past.

from Ohr Samayach –

What does it mean when an Israeli says lefargen?

Perhaps the lesson of Korach will alert our people to the importance of fargining others and bring peace and harmony to Israel forever.

Well, modern Hebrew took the word “LeFargain” (?????) from the Yiddish…

Fargeenen goes much farther than merely not to begrudge what your fellow man has. In addition to the Ayin Tov, there is a connotation of Lev Tov in “fargeenin yennem”.

Squeak, thank you. I didn’t find anything during my search.

Moshe, it seems that people use it more as a passive I-don’t-mind-that-he-has…, then an active I’m-so-happy-for-him.

i’m not sure, but it’s the opposite of ‘closegin’.

I don’t believe there is one word in the english language that describes it. That’s the beauty of yiddish.

Accept no imitation. Takeh!

The winner is to “not begrudge”!

squeak, I find web translators often to be quite helpful.

Zeeskite: By your logic there is no musag of it in essence at all as there is no such verb in Lashon Hakodesh which is the essence of all that exists.

By your logic too the musag of NOT farginnen – jealousy – only exists by Yidden ch’v. That is obviously untrue.

How do you know only Yidden do it anyway? Goyim may not have a specific verb for it but they can still express it e.g. ‘Hey Chris, I’m so happy for you that your business got off to the right start.’

If we want to be smug about our superiority over the Umos HaOlam let’s at least stick to those things that Chazal tell us we excel at e.g. Rachmonim, Bayshonim, Gomlei Chasodim instead of making up things based on a verb in Yiddish corrupted from German circa 1000 years ago.

While we have a word “farginin”, which is to delight in someone’s good fortune; it is actually very rare that someone truly fargins another person, no matter what he expresses verbally to the contrary. And instead of the ayin tova which was mentioned in an earlier post, it is an ayin hara that is actually created.

This observation is from a gadol.

on the ball

Our ‘Fargin’ing is a combination of all three middos Chazal said about us! (do you fargin us?)

btw, I humbly beg to differ with you. I think there are a lot more positive character straits that are unique to us. I think there’s a Gemarah somewhere that says about umos haolam ???? ??? ??? or ????? ?????? and the like. About Yidden I think it says ????? ?????? ?? and many more. So there’s more than just those three. – just my humblest opinion.

I don’t remember his name right now, but he quoted the g’mara in babba m’tzia that that 99 out of 100 people die before their time due to Ayin Hara. Chazal have said that Ayin Hara causes destruction from Above even without bad intention from the parties involved.

Like I said above, ‘overlook’ is the best and most proper definition for the word ‘fargin.’

For example: “I am willing to overlook the fact that you smashed my car with a tire iron.”

OnTheBall, I think ZeesKite is right, based on observation. You might several Yotzei Min Haklal, but we are one family and there is no comparison out there. There are jealosies among us, unfortunately. But there is also a unique feeling of oneness, that we witnessed recently, and that shines through very often. When a Yid wins a Nobel prize or a lottery, we all rejoice, much more than people of the same nationality. We are actually happy for him. This is a trait mentioned in Sefarim.

The Ben Ish Chai writes a story about a king who punished two advisers, a Jewish one and a non Jewish one, by taking away a little boy from each, both being the same age. After a couple of years the king allowed them to take home their child. The king knew which is which, but he told them to pick their child. The Yid brought two trays of grapes. One had a cluster and the other had loose grapes. He brought it to the children and each took from a different tray. Instantly, he pointed to the one who took from the cluster and proclaimed him to be his son. The king said, “you are right, but how did you know?” He answered that Yidden are one people, we are all part of one. Therefore, my son associated with the cluster. Others are each on their own, and therefore gravitated toward the situation he identified with.