What is normal English?

Good question,
but you missed Leil Hasseder …..

English itself is a creolized West Germanic language that originated from Anglo-Frisian dialects brought to Britain around the mid 5th to 7th centuries AD by Anglo-Saxon settlers. Norman and French also influenced its development. Shakespeare incorporated many Latin and Ancient Greek words, as well as from other European languages.
The language you presumably prefer — modern Hebrew — although probably largely based on Lashon Hakodesh, is itself an amalgam of European languages, BTW including many Yiddish words, and of course plenty of Arabic. And today’s spoken Hebrew often seems to contain more English words than Hebrew. Scores of English words have becomes “Hebraized” (creolized?) and so, if you pronounce them with an Israeli accent, everyone considers them to be Hebrew words.
Bottom line: all languages today are creole versions of earlier languages. Having said that, many comments, and even published articles on the website could occasionally use some editing…..

Creole Hebrew, which the Zionists call Ivrit, is much more objectionable as it is a corruption of Loshon Kodesh. And L”K should not be used as an everyday street language for speaking the most mundane and low forms of speech.

And the millions of Israelis who speak grammatically correct Ivrit (including some gadolim who are resident in EY speak beautiful Ivrit in their daily lives) are engaged in “low” forms of speech while segments of the Chareidi population who are intelligible only to one another are morally superior?? I guess in “Joes world” that makes perfect sense.

In Britain, “normal” English is well defined as being the accent taught to the upper class. In America there are regional accidents, though mid-western (mid-Amerca) became standard as a result of the civil war (when someone from Illinois accepted the surrender from a Virginian). Of course, America has been very open to absorbing words from a variety of languages (and to a lesser extent, British English as well), including Yiddish. One can argue that whatever people are using is by definition “normal”. So normal English includes that spoken in Brooklyn.

Note that some countries (France and Israel come to mind) have government agencies defining what is “normal”, though it should be noted that real people tend to speak without regard to bureaucratic requirements as to what is normal. To most Americans, the idea of an official “normal” English is laughable.

Correction – ONE of your identities on that screen name…..

akuperma,

” In America there are regional accidents, though mid-western (mid-Amerca) became standard as a result of the civil war (when someone from Illinois accepted the surrender from a Virginian)”

I don’t think this is quite accurate. Lincoln himself spoke with a distinctive Kentucky twang. I think the “American Standard” dialect developed conceptually more in the 20th century with suburbanization (middle class whites eschewing regional accents perceived to be associated with poor inner city areas, and favoring accents more similar to Anglo-Saxon residents of the interior Northeast and Midwest), and television and radio broadcasts that adopted the same. A possible Civil War connection may be the association of Southern accents with stereotypes of poverty and slowness, due to the extensive poverty in the South following the war. Regional accents in the Northeast were likely associated with poverty due to the high number of new immigrants in the early 20th Century.