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December 16, 2018 11:24 am at 11:24 am #1645404assurnetParticipant
Obviously most chedarim in Yerushalayim don’t focus so much on chol, but of the ones that do which do the best job teaching it? Especially math?
I’m familiar with Beit Rabban but want to know about any other ones out there that take it seriously.
December 16, 2018 12:49 pm at 12:49 pm #1645466The little I knowParticipantWho are the best moderators for correcting spelling goofs in thread titles?
December 16, 2018 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #1645485GadolhadorahParticipantThere are some affiliates of the Mathnasium network of after-school math programs in EY but no sure if they are located in Yerushalayim….(and some of them have really good hashgacha). If you really wanted to focus on math and not compromise on limudei kodesh, supplemental tutoring of one sort or another might be your best option.
December 16, 2018 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #1645493JosephParticipantWhat kind of foolishness is it to choose a Cheder based on which is best in chol?!
December 16, 2018 2:04 pm at 2:04 pm #1645524Reb EliezerParticipantJoseph, I don’t consider Math chol. The GRA wrote the sefer Ayil Meshulosh because he recognized that Math is necessary to understand many misnayis and gemoras. The Rash Kilaim 5,5 under חכמי המדות אמרו quotes the Pythagorean Theorem.
December 16, 2018 2:26 pm at 2:26 pm #1645560JosephParticipantOkay. Send your kids to Stuyvesant. They’re tops in mathematics.
December 16, 2018 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #1645579Reb EliezerParticipantJoseph, Why can’t you have your cake and eat it? Limudei kodesh and math.
December 16, 2018 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #1645592Levi YitzchokParticipantThe cookie monster ate them.
December 16, 2018 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #1645578Takes2-2tangoParticipantWhich chadarim in yerushalaim are best in math and kosher sports
NONE!
Its virtually none exsistant.
This same machla has rubbed off on american chadarim too.Soon coming to america
December 16, 2018 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #1645610JosephParticipantBrisker mathematics — Eating your cake.
December 16, 2018 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #1645629hujuParticipantThe thing that ate the chedarim that were best at teaching math was a giant godzilla-like fire-breathing dragon. It didn’t actually happen – it is based on a movie with a cult following, called “The Thing That Ate Chedarim in Jerusalem.” The movie is on a lot of lists of the worst movies of 1954. One of the supporting actors was Bernard Schwartz, who later changed his name to Tony Curtis. How bad was the movie? Jerry Lewis turned down a chance to play the lead because he thought it was stupid.
December 16, 2018 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #1645726ndslgmParticipantchafetz chaim
December 16, 2018 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #1645738iacisrmmaParticipant“tLIK: It is not the moderator’s responsibility to correct misspellings.
December 17, 2018 3:41 am at 3:41 am #1645785Jerusalem observerParticipantThey don’t teach in Yerushalayim chadorim; they learn.
December 17, 2018 4:30 am at 4:30 am #1645796assurnetParticipantok ok… yes you got me. It was a funny typo.
Not as funny is the reason I didn’t double check my spelling is because I was in a rush to leave the office to get home to watch the other kids so my wife could spend time trying to teach our son basic arithmetic of which he has learned none at school and his rebbe instructs him to just copy off the other boys’ sheets.
The reason I would like a place that has a good emphasis on some basic chol like math is twofold. One, basic math skills are pretty essential for life. Secondly I feel like if they take teaching the chol seriously, then they should take kodesh seriously as well. I didn’t send him to a place that takes chol seriously… and in the end they aren’t even doing a great job teaching kodesh. The whole thing is just glorified babysitters with beards.
If limud haTorah and proper Jewish chinuch are supposedly such important values in our community, why is it so acceptable for our kids to just be hefker at school? Anyway… that topic as painful and pertinent as it may be is not what I’m looking for right now. I’m just trying to find a tachlis way to try and salvage my personal child’s education.
December 17, 2018 8:50 am at 8:50 am #1645801leah2330ParticipantAssurnet, you are asking a million dollar question and touching upon a source of pain for many parents in this parsha. As far as we are concerned, I just accept the situation as it is right now.. and am very proactive for my own family.. and yes it takes a lot of time and money too.. So, with math, I have been teaching my boys, just simply from the secular education curriculum (check out education.com) because although they make attempts to teach something in chedomrim, bderech klal in my experience it does not really happen, at least many children dont really learn math properly. There is hardly clear explanation and many times it causes more confusion and fear of math then leads to actual solid knowledge. Some kids can develop a complex and fear of math until you take over the controls in this area… I personally don’t care about calculus or anything higher, but plan to teach algebra, geometry.. etc..too and go as far as my own very very limited knowledge can take me (I am not a math person at all). I can also always find teachers if I cant in the future handle the level. In addition. I have also always supplemented with chugim of all types.. by finding professionals in the field who are willing to teach kids… Music.., electronics.. woodwork.. My husband is the science and geography guy.. It is obviously not simple but we have a solid secular education and can’t see our children not having access to knowledge, especially since it is kosher and only enhances your understanding of the beauty of Hashem’s world. Also our kids are the curious types. This is a tough reality and I don’t have any easy answers. I find certain things just are and if you bang you head against that wall, you can only get a concussion. Still, despite the challenges, learning kodesh in Yerushalaim and breathing the air of kedusha ultimately leads to the true goal… The system is not perfect yet, but ultimately what we want for our children can be achieved, with lots of tefillah and siyata d’shmaya. And anyway, it is not easier anywhere else..
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