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April 23, 2023 12:12 pm at 12:12 pm #2183022ZetruthParticipant
After seeing how he fiercly defended our most basic rights during the ‘pandemic’ I’m just wondering why he’s not getting the honor he deserve? I was not involved in politics before but this time I am getting involved!
April 23, 2023 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #2183036moishekapoiehParticipantI know you r not talking about president jfk, but I’ll tell anyway my opinion of him. We were all in awe of him, but when he said ‘ich bin ein berliner’ , a mere 15 years after the holocaust, he turned me off
April 23, 2023 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #2183050ujmParticipantYou didn’t hear about the curse the Rov put on the Kennedy family?
April 23, 2023 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #2183056commonsaychelParticipantMy thoughts about Kennedy?, traffic clogged, a pain to get to, layout stinks, I prefer Newark
April 23, 2023 5:39 pm at 5:39 pm #2183096ZetruthParticipantI heard about that story but it made me wonder, “Rabbi Kotler allegedly asked Kennedy to offer visas to immigrants Jews and his request was denied, then he would have cursed him”
1) First of all I don’t believe in curse 2) Something like this will never cross a sage mind. Don’t we say in the shema ” And may no person be punished because of me. ”
(ג) לְשֵׁם יִחוּד קֻדְשָׁא בְּרִיךְ הוּא וּשְׁכִינְתֵּהּ, בִּדְחִילוּ וּרְחִימוּ, וּרְחִימוּ וּדְחִילוּ, לְיַחֲדָא שֵׁם אוֹת יוּ”ד אוֹת הֵ”א בְּאוֹת וָא”ו אוֹת הֵ”א, בְּיִחוּדָא שְׁלִים בְּשֵׁם כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל, לַאֲקָמָא שְׁכִינְתָּא מֵעַפְרָא וּלְעִלוּי שְׁכִינַת עֻזֵּנוּ:
הֲרֵינִי מְקַבֵּל עָלַי אֱלָהוּתוּ יִתְבָּרַךְ וְאַהֲבָתוֹ וְיִרְאָתוֹ; וְהֲרֵינִי יָרֵא מִמֶנּוּ, בְּגִין דְּאִיהוּ רַב וְשַׁלִּיט עַל כֹּלָא, וְכֹלָּא קַמֵּהּ כְּלָא.
וַהֲרֵינִי מַמְלִיכוֹ עַל כָּל אֵבֶר וְאֵבֶר וְגִיד וְגִיד מֵרַמַ”ח אֵבָרִים וְשְׁסָ”ה גִידִים שֶׁל גּוּפִי וְנַפְשִׁי רוּחִי וְנִשְׁמָתִי, מַלְכוּת גְּמוּרָה וּשְׁלֵמָה. וַהֲרֵינִי עֶבֶד לַשֵּׁם יִתְבָּרַךְ, וְהוּא בְרַחֲמָיו יְזַכֵּנִי לְעָבְדוֹ בְלֵב שָׁלֵם וְנֶפֶשׁ חֲפֵצָה. אָמֵן כֵּן יְהִי רָצוֹן:Behold I accept upon myself the Divinity of the Blessed One, & His love & His awe. And behold I am in awe of Him because he is the master & decisor over all, & all is before Him
רִבּוֹנוֹ שֶׁל עוֹלָם:
הֲרֵינִי מוֹחֵל וְסוֹלֵחַ לְכָל מִי שֶׁהִכְעִיס וְהִקְנִיט אוֹתִי, אוֹ שֶׁחָטָא כְּנֶגְדִּי בֵּין בְּגוּפִי, בֵּין בְּמָמוֹנִי, בֵּין בִּכְבוֹדִי, בֵּין בְּכָל אֲשֶׁר לִי, בֵּין בְּאֹנֶס בֵּין בְּרָצוֹן, בֵּין בְּשׁוֹגֵג בֵּין בְּמֵזִיד, בֵּין בְּדִבּוּר בֵּין בְּמַעֲשֶׂה, בֵּין בְּגִלְגּוּל זֶה בֵּין בְּגִלְגּוּל אַחֵר, לְכָל בֶּן אָדָם, וְלֹא יֵעָנֵשׁ שׁוּם אָדָם בְּסִיבָּתִי:
יְהִי רָצוֹן מִלְפָנֶיךָ ה’ אֱלֹקַי וְאֱלֹקֵי אֲבוֹתַי שֶׁלֹא אֶחֱטָא עוֹד וְלֹא אֶחֱזֹר בָּהֶם, וְלֹא אָשׁוּב עוֹד לְהַכְעִיסֶךָ וְלֹא אֶעֱשֶׂה הָרַע בְּעֵינֶיךָ, וּמָה שֶּׁחָטָאתִי לְפָנֶיךָ מְחֹק בְּרַחֲמֶיךָ הָרַבִּים, אֲבָל לֹא עַל יְדֵי יִסוּרִים וְחֳלָיִם רָעִים:
יִהְיוּ לְרָצוֹן אִמְרֵי פִי וְהֶגְיוֹן לִבִּי לְפָנֶיךָ, ה’ צוּרִי וְגֹאֲלִי:
Master of the Universe:
Behold I forgive & pardon anyone who has angered me or antagonized me, or who has sinned against me, whether in relation to my body, or my money, or my honor, or anything that pertains to me;
whether done compulsively or willingly; whether accidentally or deliberately; whether through words or through actions; whether in this present incarnation, or in another incarnation – any human being. And may no person be punished because of me.
May it be Your will, my G·d, & G·d of my ancestors, that I not sin again, and that I not be remembered by these sins.
May I never again return to behavior that angers You, nor do what You perceive to be wrong.
And any ways I have sinned before You, with Your abundant mercies please erase — though not by means of suffering or terrible illnesses.
May the expressions of my mouth & the thoughts of my heart find favor before You, G·d, my Rock & my Redeemer.I trully admire Kennedy courage and I believe the hardships his family went through perhaps have occured because their actions wouldn’t serve the tyranical DEEP STATE!
April 23, 2023 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #2183099ZetruthParticipantRegarding ich bein berliner, interestly enough, he made a mistake and said ich bein ein berliner which apparently has a different meaning. I also believe that his intention was to spread a message of peace. Let’s not forget that the real berliners patrons during WW2 were RockFuhrer and Bush grand father, not Kennedy.
April 23, 2023 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #2183101ZetruthParticipantThis guy doesn’t let the deep state nazis messing around him, he exposed them, very often at his own expense and quite francky, I respect that.
April 23, 2023 5:50 pm at 5:50 pm #2183125☕️coffee addictParticipantCommonsaychel,
How do you know he wasn’t talking about the RFK?
April 23, 2023 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #2183140Ex-CTLawyerParticipantAnother spoiled rich kid who should keep his mouth shut
April 23, 2023 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #2183160n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
Just because he let himself believe there were people out to get him that did not actually get him, it doesn’t mean I have to believe he did anything worth honoring him.
April 23, 2023 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #2183163n0mesorahParticipantHey, I’m not rich!
April 23, 2023 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #2183166GadolhadorahParticipantHe did some good work decades ago on water quality and other environmental issues. Then, somehow, he went off the deep end with all sorts of conspiracy theories, aside from just the anti-vax meshugaas.
April 23, 2023 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #2183169Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantYeridas hadoros, the old ones really knew how to party (Nazi or otherwise). Current one is stum a meshugane.
April 23, 2023 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #2183176ZetruthParticipantWhat was honorable was to speak the truth about the pandemic like no one else did. Can anyone explain me why people in general get more interested in those who are mocking them, hurting them, destroying their lives etc?? Maybe they know the phenomena and this is how they get elected, the more scandals, tve more attention and et voila! You are now president.. Stupidity at its height!
April 23, 2023 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #2183191n0mesorahParticipantWhen and where did he speak the truth?? [How was it true before he spoke of it?]
April 23, 2023 8:11 pm at 8:11 pm #2183195commonsaychelParticipant@Coffee, The RFK is even worse, the traffic backs up for miles
April 23, 2023 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #2183207Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantZetruth, emes is Hashem’s signet, please don’t assign you to your favorite kook, just because Hashem and authorities dared to inconvenience your lifestyle
April 24, 2023 1:17 pm at 1:17 pm #2183420akupermaParticipantWhich Kennedy? John (reasonable), Joseph Sr. (not so nice but his kids tried hard to make up for it), the airport, the Senator from Louisiana, Robert and Teddy, the subsequent generations (poster childen for why nepotism is a bad idea), etc.
April 24, 2023 2:24 pm at 2:24 pm #2183573AviraDeArahParticipantZetruth…where to begin…
Cursing is something chazal say not to take lightly, the curse of a simple person, or his blessing. (Megilah 16, a, statement pf rebbe eliezer in the name of rebbe chanina)
All the more so the curse of a tzadik.
And we see clearly from chumash how yaakov was worried about being cursed by yitzchok. There’s also a lo saaseh to curse another jew in chumash.
So that premise is wrong.
Now we get to your other premise, that we are supposed to forgive everyone and pray that no harm comes through us. B’nfol ouvecha al tismach, do not rejoice at the fall of your enemy, etc..
That applies to yidden. When it comes to the umos haolam, we daven for our enemies downfall. Kel nekamos Hashem, etc… it’s all over our davening.
We will never forgive hitler, for instance. I think you’d agree with that.
And failing to save Jews is something that would definitely warrant a curse.
April 24, 2023 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #2183589ZetruthParticipantGagola dora it wasn’t a conspiracy, he’s the real deal
April 24, 2023 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #2183595ZetruthParticipantHashem told defend him regardless of all the lachon hara they will do on you and him
April 24, 2023 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #2183598ZetruthParticipantAnd america treating Jews the way they are being treated you now you think its some sort of gift? Perhaps he told him that Jews shouln’t move to America for a reason…
April 24, 2023 5:06 pm at 5:06 pm #2183666yaakov doeParticipantThis Kennedy running for President a kook
April 24, 2023 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #2183742ujmParticipantThis Kennedy is a lot better than Ted Kennedy ever was.
April 24, 2023 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #2183748Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantZetruth seem to be nuying lots of theories, mostly describing how bad America is bad to Jews restricting his, Zetruths’ freedoms, while presumably pining for some better times at other empires where we prospered. Can I ask you a question – did you have a world history class in the yeshiva, and if yes, what was your grade?
April 25, 2023 10:46 am at 10:46 am #2183883ZetruthParticipantA world history class? It’s best to travel the world and witness the reality of this world, dont’ you think so always ask questions?
April 25, 2023 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #2183884ZetruthParticipant@ujm He’s the best ever.
Kennedy: “Fox fires TuckerCarlson five days after he crosses the red line by acknowledging that the TV networks pushed a deadly and ineffective vaccine to please their Pharma advertisers. Carlson’s breathtakingly courageous April 19 monologue broke TV’s two biggest rules: Tucker told the truth about how greedy Pharma advertisers controlled TV news content and he lambasted obsequious newscasters for promoting jabs they knew to be lethal and worthless. For many years, Tucker has had the nation’s biggest audience averaging 3.5 million — 10 times the size of CNN. Fox just demonstrated the terrifying power of Big Pharma.”
KENNEDY 24 !!! Bezrat Hashem!!!April 25, 2023 1:10 pm at 1:10 pm #2183945commonsaychelParticipantWhat are your thoughts about Van Wyck?
April 25, 2023 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #2183957jackkParticipantWhy would a political nobody run against an incumbent President? Just because of his last name?
April 25, 2023 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #2183975commonsaychelParticipant@jackk, that never stopped the Kennedy’s before, why start now?
April 25, 2023 2:49 pm at 2:49 pm #2183983ZetruthParticipantJackk maybe because he wants to make a change?
April 25, 2023 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #2183994ZetruthParticipantWhile RFK Jr.’s previous anti-vaccine remarks have stirred up some backlash, Tucker Carlson embraced Kennedy’s statements, even echoing them sometimes.
During an episode of his show earlier this year, the now former Fox News anchor compared the vaccination campaign during the COVID-19 pandemic to “what the imperial Japanese army and the Nazis did in their medical experiments.”
April 25, 2023 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #2183996Yserbius123Participant@Zetruth I don’t understand your comment. Carlson was fired because he said the same thing all Fox News opinion anchors have been repeating unending for the last 2.5 years?
April 25, 2023 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #2184008n0mesorahParticipant“It’s best to travel the world and witness the reality of this world”
So how much did you travel?
April 25, 2023 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #2184017emes nisht shekerParticipantNot even sure what this thread is about but see someone praising some Fox News personality for speaking some truth… Just want to point out that Fox News has been outed as not caring about truth only about views. They will literally say anything to get you to watch even if internally they all admit it is outright lies. That you should even suggest anything out from them can be assumed to be truthful without fact-checking everything properly is so incredibly naïve.
April 25, 2023 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #2184071ujmParticipantJackk: Hilary was a bigger political nobody when she used her last name and husband to run for the Senate.
April 25, 2023 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #2184062Dan TheParticipantWas the Zionist, Illuminati, Rothchild, Deep State, Big Pharma also controlling Israel? Come on, Kennedy is a crazy conspiracy theorist grifter who started with the RMM vaccines and then continued his grift during Covid. There’s no basic rights in a pandemic to infect and hurt people. This is an utter disgrace!
April 25, 2023 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #2184107AviraDeArahParticipantA broken clock is right twice a day
A nutjob who touts innumerable conspiracy theories will get one right every few decades… So what?
April 25, 2023 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #2184118Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantIs it interesting how certain people accumulate multiple weird opinions along their travels. Maybe RT has a travel show or something.
April 25, 2023 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #2184132☕️coffee addictParticipant“What are your thoughts about Van Wyck?“
Depends which way and which time of day
But how is it pronounced wick or whyke?April 26, 2023 12:28 am at 12:28 am #2184136ZetruthParticipantAlways ask questions and nameSarah: let’s open a different topic on how well traveled we all are, always ask questions but try to stay relevant to the subject, I can tell you this tho: history classes must be corrected, it’s should be forbidden to lie to children by telling them ” a british landed with a parachute in Normandy and by doing so, hitler was defeated” What a shame. This evil was defeated by the russian army and not because one guy landed in a parachute in north of France.
April 26, 2023 9:28 am at 9:28 am #2184197☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantCoffee Addict,
“Agnes Treuren, an officer in the Dutch Consulate in New York, insisted that both pronunciations were emphatically wrong. “It is ‘Fon Weig,’ with the last syllable pronounced like leg or beg,” she said”
From an old NYT article
April 26, 2023 9:58 am at 9:58 am #2184235n0mesorahParticipantDear Ujm,
I think Jack is incorrect. But your statement is not any better.
April 26, 2023 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2184240n0mesorahParticipantDear Ze,
Can I assume that you are less traveled then I am?
Your right it wasn’t just one paratrooper. It was over ten thousand drops.
It is really hard to stay relevant to a subject that never happened.
In your oddball opinions, what are the basic human rights?
April 26, 2023 12:00 pm at 12:00 pm #2184340Yserbius123Participant@DaasYochid I knew a Dutch guy in Yeshiva in Israel once who would always correct everyone’s pronunciation of New York names, from Catskill to Harlem.
April 26, 2023 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #2184420Avram in MDParticipantAlways_Ask_Questions,
“authorities dared to inconvenience your lifestyle”
Oooh, you’re teaching a masterclass in gaslighting and emotional invalidation. If you think the pandemic response was merely an inconvenience for most people, then the only person who thinks we reside on the same planet is Avi Loeb over at Harvard.
April 26, 2023 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #2184424Avram in MDParticipantn0mesorah,
“In your oddball opinions, what are the basic human rights?”
Based on the posting patterns, the “oddball opinions” may well be false-flag trolling.
April 26, 2023 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #2184429n0mesorahParticipantDear Avram,
Possible. But look at the comments on the main site.
It’s familiar. I can’t place the old username.
April 26, 2023 4:31 pm at 4:31 pm #2184463jackkParticipantWeloveourMesorah,
What do you find incorrect about my post?
Regarding ujm,
Hillary ran for Senator from NY and was immediately the party nominee. She knew she was going to be nominated from the start and was drafted by the Democrats.Only after being the first lady for 8 years where she was active in many parts of the administration including healthcare overhaul, Senator for NY for 8 years, Secretary of State for 4 years, did she run for President.
Only the republicans will nominate a non-politically experienced person for president and expect that it will turn out good.
April 26, 2023 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #2184487ZetruthParticipant@Avram in MD thank you for bringing more decency to this topic, those are sensitive subjects, and I’m going to answer to always ask question, a law maker said that disrupting our lives the way rhey did, it’s called modern terrorrisme. It seems like some people don’t allow themselves to think.
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