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November 28, 2014 2:00 am at 2:00 am #1044727voos epesMember
But who are the gedolim ?
November 28, 2014 2:39 am at 2:39 am #1044728popa_bar_abbaParticipantNot you and ahmadenijad
November 28, 2014 2:56 am at 2:56 am #1044729eekMember1.Robert Wadlow
2.John Rogan
3.John F. Carroll
4.Leonid Stadnyk
8.Vikas Uppal
9.Don Koehler
10.Bernard Coyne
November 28, 2014 3:17 am at 3:17 am #1044730voos epesMemberNo idea who those people are
November 28, 2014 3:59 am at 3:59 am #1044731ChasidishMommyMemberCan you prove otherwise? Terror attacks haven’t decreased last I checked.
Who are the Bnai Yoel *Rabbanim* supporting them?
November 28, 2014 5:22 am at 5:22 am #1044732voos epesMemberSharmash ruv shlita and others and why the quotation marks bnei yoel rabbunim are just as much rabbunim like ahroini rabbunim
November 28, 2014 6:43 am at 6:43 am #1044733Little FroggieParticipantPAA:
Rashi in Chumash ommits the ?????. I don’t know medrash, am not a Talmid nor a Chacham (there’s a reason I don’t join in all the scholarly discussions here…)
November 28, 2014 8:04 am at 8:04 am #1044734Patur Aval AssurParticipantLittle Froggie:
You are correct that Rashi left out the word ?????. I will have to assume that Rashi means that an act of hatred against the Jews is an act of hatred against Hashem or perhaps he means that in general hatred of Jews is indicative of hatred of Hashem. But he can’t mean that if someone hates Jews then he by definition hates Hashem. Here’s the proof: What if Hashem tells someone to hate Jews. He obviously doesn’t hate Hashem – he loves Hashem and that is why he is listening to Hashem to hate the Jews. Now you might know that Hashem would never tell someone to hate Jews. But you can’t presuppose that someone else knows that. Which brings us back to my original point which is that while we can decry Neturei Karta and their practices, I don’t think we can assume that they hate Hashem.
November 28, 2014 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm #1044736RandomexMembereek – 🙂
November 28, 2014 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #1044737Little FroggieParticipantPAA, Am I silly or I don’t comprehend something? Would HaShem tell someone to hate Him c”v?!? Why would he tell someone to hate Jews – and actual part of Him?!?
To hate Jews as a whole (by siding with our murders – FOR THAT PURPOSE) is hating HaShem, in my humble opinion.
November 28, 2014 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #1044738Patur Aval AssurParticipantLittle Froggie:
No, as far as I know, Hashem would not tell someone to hate Him. However, that does not mean that someone else can’t believe that Hashem wants him to hate Jews. Or that Hashem wants him to engage with murderers.
November 28, 2014 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #1044739voos epesMemberNk does not hate most zionists as most of them were born into it and are just victims
Of Zionism also find me a nk sign with the word hate on it I’ve never seen it
November 28, 2014 5:13 pm at 5:13 pm #1044740MDGParticipant“find me a nk sign with the word hate on it”
Hate groups don’t put the word “hate” on their signs. Even in last weeks parasha, Esav clearly hates Yaakov but does not articulate it.
November 28, 2014 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1044741voos epesMemberagain I feel bad for
Most zionists I don’t hate them there victims of hertzl and Ben gurion
November 28, 2014 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #1044742☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI haven’t see the word love on their signs either.
I can’t fathom embracing someone who wants to annihilate us unless there’s hatred in their hearts.
November 28, 2014 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #1044743voos epesMemberI have sign in my house it says Judaism rejects Zionism what’s not true about that?
November 28, 2014 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #1044744MDGParticipantvoos epes,
You need to see and learn about more of the world. You sound to me like a sheltered 16 year old who has a lot of religious fervor but little understanding of how to apply it because of your little understanding of the world outside your daled amot. For example, that’s why I mentioned the whole Farsi thing. Until you understand the way Persians think, you cannot understand their ability to be gracious, yet lie and backstab. There are other examples.
Besides which, you need to learn more Torah.
November 28, 2014 5:49 pm at 5:49 pm #1044745MDGParticipant“again I feel bad for
Most zionists I don’t hate them there victims of hertzl and Ben gurion”
It should be “they’re” bad not “there”.
When a person uses bad language:
1) it is harder to understand
2) the speaker comes across as doltish
November 28, 2014 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #1044746Letakein GirlParticipantI agree with MDG, but I would add “naive” to VE’s character profile. Maybe also “brainwashed?”
November 28, 2014 6:19 pm at 6:19 pm #1044747voos epesMemberI’m sorry professor mdg but I know more then enough about the world
November 28, 2014 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #1044748MDGParticipant“professor mdg” – your snide remarks only further the image of your immaturity
“more then” – it should be “more than”
“I know more then enough about the world” – another comment which show smugness – another sign of immaturity
And like I mentioned before, you need to go learn more Torah.
November 28, 2014 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #1044749voos epesMemberLike they say in English ignorance is bliss
November 28, 2014 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #1044750👑RebYidd23ParticipantEven the difference between “then” and “than”?
November 28, 2014 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #1044751MDGParticipantEnjoy your Happiness.
November 28, 2014 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #1044752voos epesMemberNovember 28, 2014 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #1044753popa_bar_abbaParticipantActually, it would help if you know something about your own.
November 28, 2014 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #1044754voos epesMemberGit shabes
November 28, 2014 8:43 pm at 8:43 pm #1044755MDGParticipant” @mdg how will it help me if I know about other cultures traditions”
If you, or those that you associate with – like NK, have dealings with them, you should know who/what you are dealing with. Furthermore, NK makes a lot of noise for publicity. They should know how the world, especially the Arab world, views them.
Knowing history is helpful to understand where we are at today and how we got here.
I agree that knowing the culture and history of Outer Mongolia is probably of no use to us. But knowing the history of our people, the countries of our exile, and countries that we (as a group or as individuals) deal with will help us understand our present and future.
November 28, 2014 8:51 pm at 8:51 pm #1044756MDGParticipantEven the difference between “then” and “than”?
Then refers to time.
Than is used in comparison.
Using the wrong word distracts the reader/listener from the main point. Using the wrong word consistently make the reader/listener question the speakers education and intelligence.
November 30, 2014 12:31 am at 12:31 am #1044758voos epesMemberMy education is yeshiva bnei yoel satmar so..
November 30, 2014 1:18 am at 1:18 am #1044759oyyoyyoyParticipanteek- The only ones who know how to think are our Gedolim.
Correct me if i’m wrong, but it seems to me like you’re being sarcastic. Correct me if i’m wrong, but it seems i proved that you’re logic was flawed and you actually don’t know how to think.
November 30, 2014 1:36 am at 1:36 am #1044760oyyoyyoyParticipantNovember 30, 2014 1:47 am at 1:47 am #1044761voos epesMemberMy point is don’t hate nk for what they do 5% of their time
November 30, 2014 1:59 am at 1:59 am #1044762👑RebYidd23ParticipantMost murderers spend most of their time not killing people.
November 30, 2014 2:37 am at 2:37 am #1044763popa_bar_abbaParticipantagree with rebyidd.
Sometimes I think rebyidd is the only sane person in the CR
November 30, 2014 2:41 am at 2:41 am #1044764RandomexMember1.
If we identify Jews with Hashem (“Yisrael v’Oraisa v’Kudsha B’rich Hu chad hu”), then Hashem would not tell someone to hate Him/Jews.
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Little Froggie:
By “(by siding with our murder[er]s – FOR THAT PURPOSE),” you surely don’t mean the purpose of murdering Jews?
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RebYidd, you beat me to saying something again!
( http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/westboro-baptist-church/page/6#post-547779 )
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Look, everyone, Voos Epes has declared himself young and (presumably) sheltered. Do you really think you’re going to convince him? (Are you doing this just for fun, seeing as there’s not much going on on the CR?)
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voos epes:
“Ignorance is bliss,” but it’s ignorance (in Torah, “amaratzus”) all the same. Like they say in Hebrew, “Yosif da’as, yosif mach’ov.” The Kotzker said that we have to increase our da’as, even if this causes us pain.
Anyway, does Yeshiva Bnai Yoel Satmar teach that quotation marks
can be used to show that you don’t think of what you’re talking about as real? What about the saying “Ignorance is bliss” – do they teach that?
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P.S. RebYidd23 was asking jokingly if “ignorance is bliss” refers even to “the difference between ‘then’ and ‘than’.” (I’m just noting this because it’s been both misunderstood and misattributed.)
November 30, 2014 3:28 am at 3:28 am #1044766voos epesMemberI think your both on something but whatever
November 30, 2014 3:32 am at 3:32 am #1044767popa_bar_abbaParticipantyah yah, we think you’re a moron also, and a rasha too!
November 30, 2014 4:32 am at 4:32 am #1044768voos epesMember&randomex I’ve learnt things myself
November 30, 2014 5:03 am at 5:03 am #1044769voos epesMember@rebyidd/pba are you implying that your the same person y did u write “we” instead of I
November 30, 2014 5:45 am at 5:45 am #1044771RandomexMemberNo, Popa is just sure that RebYidd thinks the same thing he does.
November 30, 2014 5:55 am at 5:55 am #1044772voos epesMemberNow I suspect that ur also the same person as them because how can you know what someone else is thinking?
November 30, 2014 6:03 am at 6:03 am #1044773👑RebYidd23ParticipantI am flattered that you think I’m Popa, but I assure you that I am not.
November 30, 2014 6:10 am at 6:10 am #1044774voos epesMemberMy theory is that eek is also someone else who made the account just to disagree with me
November 30, 2014 6:11 am at 6:11 am #1044775RandomexMemberThe way I know what people are thinking sometimes is
that it’s obvious from what they’re saying.
Actually, though, Popa might just not have cared
if RebYidd really thought the same thing or not.
(Also, this.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/rav-millers-ten-commandments-of-marriage#post-547717 )
November 30, 2014 6:36 am at 6:36 am #1044776voos epesMemberFirstly I always thought you were a man secondly I always thought PBA is around 16 from the way he posts
November 30, 2014 6:49 am at 6:49 am #1044777RandomexMemberPopa is the badchan here. You should not take anything he says
seriously unless it is either 1) about halacha or 2) believable and sensible. Otherwise, it is only a joke.
I don’t think he’s joking here, though.
November 30, 2014 7:12 am at 7:12 am #1044778voos epesMemberIf he’s ur father in law call him up and ask
November 30, 2014 8:59 am at 8:59 am #1044779RandomexMemberPopa saying that another poster is a member of his family is not what I would consider believable (so if it was true, I wouldn’t say so).
If you look here, you’ll see that he’s been registered for six years, so he’s probably a lot older than 16, especially judging
by how he wrote when he started out:
theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/profile/popa_bar_abba
November 30, 2014 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #1044780voos epesMemberChassidishmommy also disagreed with me and left and what happened to lookingforsem posted like there was no tomorrow and then stopped…..
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