Westboro baptist church?

They are whackos who scream at mourners at military funerals.

Think of them as the neturei karta of christianity.

” they mean well” I assume

I’ve never made the comparison, but it seems there are similar aspects in both NK and WBC. Both protest against entities and individuals the mainstream portion of their respective religions typically leave alone.

One thing is certain. They don’t like us as evidenced by their demonstrations at yeshivot a few years ago. Just a handful of bigoted wackos.

The two are completely different

That’s true.

Westboro’s vendeta is at least about a real mitzva–albeit blown out of any recognition, while NK’s is stam narishkeitin.

Right, from the shoresh of naar–having to do with children

NK go to our sworn enemies, like Iran – who have said that they want to destroy us, and hug them. The embolden our enemies. NK makes our enemies think that we are a scattered and splintered nation (quote from Haman). WBC never did such a thing. NK is worse.

What NK needs to understand is that if Iran had no need for NK as useful idiots, the Iranians would just line them up at a wall R”L.

Ahem……

@ pops,

what about the other half of your naarishkeiten?

Well, so there are two elements of “frum jew”. Frum, and jew.

I sincerely doubt they are jewish, since they do not display the middos of zerah avraham avinu. They are neither rachmanim nor bayshanim. Instead, they spend most of their time doing achzarius and azus. I have no information regarding chessed, but avraham avinu’s descendants have all 3. Perhaps they are the erev rav? The gra says you can find the erev rav in each generation because they have azus.

As for frum, you say they keep taryag mitzvos. I don’t know if they keep shabbos or not, or if they keep kashrus or not. But I do know they have distanced themselves from the community of the shomrei torah umitzvos, and so should not be surprised to find themselves reciprocally distanced.

I certainly hope they are not Jews because if they’re not that may save them from the great amount of Gehhenim that will be bestowed upon them.

How do you know it as a fact? Even so, that still doesn’t prove they are jewish.

I liked the way that story came right under the one about the Druze. Hallalu Ratzim Vehallalu Ratz(ch)im.

There, more frum, then us!

We think they’re a bunch of lunatics who have nothing to do with our community. Basically, the exact same way regular Christian Americans view Westboro Baptist.”

I have to agree. They are not frum Jews. The Chillul Hashem alone, that they commit by embracing our sonim publicly, puts them in a whole different category.

“Think of them as the neturei karta of christianity.”

One of the sharpest (not sure how to spell seicheldik) posts to appear on YWN, ever.

Ivory, do you call this a normal conversation?

Bp,

Arabs are worse than animals. They aren’t going to be like, “several jewish men came to be menachem avel us? Wow I guess we were wrong about the Jews! Let’s publicize that we’ve made a mistake- Jews are awesome people! Let’s ignore the centuries of hatred toward them in our history and make peace.”

That’s absolutely ridiculous! You’re making the same mistake as the international community in assuming that Arabs are people that can be reckoned with. They’ve been raised with the ideology that they will merit paradise if they kill Jews. That ain’t gonna change! They are subhuman beasts, for heavens sake!