Wearing a Yarmulka in a Movie Theater

Depends what you are going to see. I haven’t been to any movie screening except Ushpizin in a good 7 years, so I have no idea what’s out there. I would see a film similar to the film I last remember seeing (the one about the code breakers in WW2) again with no shame if I had the time and actually bothered to find out when and where it was playing. On the other hand, if you are going to see something knowing it isn’t 100%, better not to advertise you are going to see it.

I’m taking my son to see the film “Winnie the Pooh”…we will both be wearing Yamulkas and Tzisus too!

Thank you mikehall for your post about not having learned anything from the past week. I was about to say the same thing.

And I agree with mewho that those insulting posts should be removed.

Right the Halacha of the IBM pc. Let me look that one up!!!!!!!

Gavra, You know what Deuteronomy says. See Deut 28. It says anyone who does not obey any particular law will be Cursed. That is a fact. It will effect your life and your well being. But the halacha that is continuing to evolve may or may not be exactly the Laws of our Torah that we adhere to. So if someone say refuses to wear tzitzis in public, that is a curse on his life.

My life is better today becuase I obey the laws of Moses.

basket of radishes,

I follow Jewish law that makes sense

Refraining from eating pork makes no sense to the human intellect, so would you throw that out?

Do you honestly think that you can sit in judgement of our Torah and decide for yourself what makes sense and what doesn’t?

You claim to be far from “reform”, but your ideology 100% fits the bill, or perhaps you are a Karaite?

I’d wear one, but it makes the shkotzim I go with feel uncomfortable

Many people use the internet for work.

I know some technical people who are very frum, I wondered if I should send them an article on a topic we were researching. But they often use technical knowledge web sites which have some general advertising as well. And if you start surfing for answers to technical questions you are bound to see something that you should be not be.Anyway the link was something like ‘HTML5 Does not Suck’. I debated if i should send them the link like that.

Maybe I am naive but I decided not to. it happened to be a perfect link for us, but I wasn’t sure.

charlie: The theaters didn’t contain much pagan ritual, but they did contain poetry recital. Can you imagine any Jew — or anyone at all today — going to watch someone recite Catullus with gestures? And speaking of using modern communications tech for Torah, there will be a public hangout on google+ tomorrow night learning Hilchos Beis Habechirah. It will run from 8pm till the end of the fast.

Droid: You seem to be a yodea sefer, look it up yourself.

Zahavasdad – Who is supposed to ban the minyan? The Eida Chareidis of Citi Field? The minyan is “allowed” by the security guards. I am willing to bet that if you ask an Rov where you should daven, game vs Shul, they would say Shul.

I have davened at Busch Stadium in St Louis, but so what? Doesn’t make it right or wrong. And does not have anything to do with wearing a Yarmulka either!

The fact that Jews make a minyan there just shows that they want to have their “Gashmius” while not ignoring their “Ruchniyus”. It just eliminates the issue of missing minyan b/c of a game.

But the Minyan does not make the game/stadium into a “Frum” outing/event at all.

In the winter, there is a ski hill up north (Montreal) that has a minyan…taking three steps back and foward is a bit tricky with ski boots, but it can be done…

So if the game isn’t treif and can have a minyan, then why not wear a Yarmulka?

Or to go back to this topic, how is the game example any contradiction or a proof agaisnt what I said about “being embarrassed” wear it in a place as a sign not to enter the place?

GeshmakMan…I don’t think you have ever been to a ball game. What you describe is not the case as you portray it…

How is this different then daveining is a parking lot at a major rest area, airport, or anywhere else I’ve seen minyans that are outside a shul/home?

Our mission here is to elevate the mundane, to infuse the ordinary with holliness…forming a minyan and deveining at a ball game, side of the road, or an airport does just that…

A minyan at a baseball game is like a minyan in back of an airplane. It can be done, but in most cases you are better off davening B’Yechidus when you get home.

There are of course exceptions. An empty Camden Yards on a weeknight has plenty of places where you can gather a minyan and no one will bother you while you daven (I don’t know about the NY stadiums).

Mikehall – thank you for agreeing 🙂

I was just trying to figure out the connection between baseball games and minyanim to being embarrassed to wear a Kippa in certain public places.

Don’t know if am “lucky” to have gone, but it has been a fun ride!

Maybe I’ll take you and you can show me all the fans that DON’T Curse and the ladies that actually wear clothes 🙂

Sorry, I don’t mean to indicate that that is the way of our people. I wish to indicate that there are people today who are forbidding the Jew in their community to use certain forms of media. I have also seen a number of articles in the last few years telling that we can not use the internet on VIN, YWN and Matzav. I am aware that many in the yeshiva education system are forbidden from having an internet connection and are forbidden from using this sort of Modern day computer internet connection.

I may see that there are certain groups, perhaps those in a very structured yeshiva who the teachers and leaders do not wish to be exposed to outside ideas while they are in their programs. For someone in a yeshiva, I believe that as illiberal as the idea of no computer is, it is within the rights of the yeshiva to enforce this but that our children should also have the right to use a computer if they so choose. It may make it that people will no longer pursue that particular yeshiva and that is the democratic process. But if it works for that sort of community, I am not going to be one to interfere.

But for me as a Jew to want to use the internet and other media, I feel that is my G-d given right. And sadly, it may make me someone on the outskirts of a religious community in some places, but that is my choice. I am well served as an American and Jew by having access to the online information.

Thanks.

they claim that it is assur to have a computer period. I have a friend who has to go to the public library to use the computer for even a simple thing such as learning to type.

I’m a midwesterner but another part of America.

Derech HaMelech. I believe that our Creator has indeed made the provisions in our society for science to flourish. I do not believe that Hashem wants us to not use these advances in our lives. I say this is my G-d given right becuase I am a human being living in this era that Hashem Created me to live in. So therefore, G-d gives me the right to live in today’s society and use todays media and scientific advances.

“Theaters and circuses did not exist in ancient Egypt.”

I did not say that they did.

“taking three steps back and foward is a bit tricky with ski boots, but it can be done”

Correct for downhill boots. But with cross country skis it is easy. I’ve davened minchah many times while on cross country skis. Now if I could just get enough other Jews interested in cross country skiing….

“And have you ever consulted a Rov about davening at a game?”

I’ve davened at Yankee Stadium WITH rabbis!

“A minyan at a baseball game is like a minyan in back of an airplane.”

No, a minyan at the back of an airplane creates serious safety concerns if the plane is at all full. My flight to Europe last week was 3/4 empty but that was a rarity and I don’t think there were any other Jews on the plane — certainly none with a yarmulke.

“What are G-d given rights? Where/When did he give them to us? Is there a rishon that codified them somewhere?”

The “rishon” was named Thomas Jefferson, and he codified some of them in the U.S. Declaration of Independence. But it should be noted that Jefferson, who was not a Christian by any reasonable definition, was quite hostile to any and all organized religions. (He was neither an anti-Semite nor an atheist, though.) But Judaism doesn’t really speak of rights but of responsibilities. While the principles of the U.S. Declaration of Independence helped to create a country in which Jews are as well treated as at any time or place in our long galut — and in fact most of the small Jewish community here were enthusiastic supporters of the new Republic — we should not fall into the trap of thinking that Jefferson’s ideas represent Torah thinking.

DHM- I do not understand your philosophy or how you can contain your ideas of Hashems intent in todays society. I am from a moderate community and I feel that this world was created with a purpose. I do not think that HASHEM created say the automobile to test us and see if we might move to a new location that we can visit you from car now. I disagree that this modern world is a mistake. And of course, I am not going to be like the amish. Perhaps you can argue that the modern conveniences are an option and not a right. That about puts you at par with the Amish in my sight.

bor,

I don’t know too much about the Amish, but Jews do not have anything against technology, it’s the dangers of how it might be used which is a concern.

I’m sure there are certain bits of technology which you would agree not to use, the argument is how far to take it. G-d didn’t give us the right to use automatic weapons in a shopping mall, although we have the option. The existence of technology is by no means evidence that G-d intended for us to use it.

One could argue that He wants it to be used, but by whom and in what manner is up to our good judgement.

BTW, your profile says where you’re from.

I have no idea how to look at someones profile or edit one.

I am sure you are aware we are not talking about murder on our discussion of computers, bicycles and other things that were not here 400 years ago.

I’ll help you on the profile editing, if you want.

No, we’re not discussing murder, I was using an example. There are things besides murder which our Creator has proscribed, and the advent of technology is not a retraction on His part.

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