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July 20, 2012 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #604180adina24Participant
I have a son just over bar mitzvah who occasionally wets the bed. I know that people over bar/bas mitzvah cant wash laundry or put on new sheets during the nine days. Am I allowed to change his sheets to new clean sheets and wash his dirty ones?
July 21, 2012 11:46 am at 11:46 am #886435moreMembertrain him not to wet his bed. that is not normal! Whats he gonna do when he goes to yeshiva??
July 22, 2012 2:15 am at 2:15 am #886436oomisParticipantAsk your LOR a shailah, but I canot imagine for kovod habrios as well as your son’s own health, that urine soiled sheets cannot be changed.
July 22, 2012 3:46 am at 3:46 am #886437Sam2ParticipantAsk your LOR, but I don’t think you can wash the sheets unless you actually run out. You certainly can change them for clean ones (and if they would smell/get ruined, you can probably wash the soiled ones, but I’m not confident enough to say that). He would wet the bed often enough that you don’t have enough clean sheets to last only nine days? Why else would you need to wash them?
July 22, 2012 4:08 am at 4:08 am #886438147ParticipantFirstly, let’s establish if this week is already Halachically “Shovu’a shechol bo Tisha b’Ov”? or whether this only commences next Saturday nite?
Meanwhile bear in mind that observances of the 9 days, are deRabbonon, whereas “vNishmartem Me’od leNafshoseichem” is a Chiyuv miDeorraisso from next week’s Parsha of voEschanan, so you could even change the sheets on a Shabbos, so no-one gets infected, even if not sleeping until Saturday nite.
July 22, 2012 4:36 am at 4:36 am #886439TheGoqParticipantSounds like a health hazard im no rov but i would think you would be allowed to change them, plus the psychological aspects of being reminded of his bed wetting cant be good for the child.
July 22, 2012 4:57 am at 4:57 am #886440farrockgrandmaParticipantmore – delayed bedwetting may sometime run in families, and some children do not outgrow this until their teens. it’s no fun for them or their parents. i’m no posek, but it seems that is better to wash the sheets only if you are running out of changes. ask your rav – the rule may be different if there is no place to store them where the odor will not be noticeable. also, there are disposable bedpads you can purchase. they may be too costly for you to use 365 days a year, but a supply for occasions when you can’t wash sheets is not prohibitive.
July 22, 2012 5:45 am at 5:45 am #886441Sam2Participant147: Why do you ignore that Ashkenazim keep the Halachos of Shavua Shechal Bo all 9 days?
July 22, 2012 8:51 am at 8:51 am #886442chocandpatienceMembermore: your comment is OT (and unwarranted). Bedwetting can happen to teeagers and it isn’t an issue of just ‘training him not to’.
And it is a big social problem when they go to Yeshiva.
July 22, 2012 1:52 pm at 1:52 pm #886443Anom123456789ParticipantThere is no din of Shavua Shechal Bo this year. That’s the psak of the Shulchan Aruch, and the Rama does not argue. I checked this with a Moreh Horah (from the Brisk community) to be sure.
July 22, 2012 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #886444WIYMemberAnom123456789
As Sam asked above, why do you ignore that Ashkenazim keep the Halachos of Shavua Shechal Bo all 9 days?
July 22, 2012 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #886445Sam2ParticipantAnom: Actually, the Mechaber says Yeish Mi Sheomer that it applies both weeks this year, if I recall correctly.
July 22, 2012 7:55 pm at 7:55 pm #886446Anom123456789ParticipantWIY: This semi true. Ashkenazim though do old of Shavua Shechal Bo in the literal sense, to be more machmir on cerain things. I asked a shailah to the Moreh Horeh, because I wasn’t certain if Ashkenazim wold be able to make a siyum to eat meat this year. He told me one could.
Sam2: Correct, however “Yeish Mi Sheomer” in the Shulchan Arch usually (I would guess there to be some exceptions) that we don’t hold of that opinion (Yeish Mi Sheomer is a lashon implying a minority opinion)
July 22, 2012 8:08 pm at 8:08 pm #886447Sam2ParticipantAnom: Are you sure? I thought Yeish Mi Sheomer meant that it’s not an opinion brought down in many Rishonim but that no one explicitly argues and therefore we usually do hold like it (unless it’s Mashma from the Stimas D’varim of the other Rishonim that they do disagree). I feel like that’s what I saw in the Yad Malachi, but I would have to double-check to be sure.
July 22, 2012 9:49 pm at 9:49 pm #886448Anom123456789ParticipantHonestly I may be mistaken about what Yeish Mi Sheomer means,however I’m sure 100% in this case the Shulchan Aruch is poskining like the fist opinion (being that I asked a big posek to make sure. However. being that I asked a posek has nothing to do with you,you should check with your Rav.
July 22, 2012 10:25 pm at 10:25 pm #8864491st timerParticipantIm sure you’ve checked out all the reasons why he might be bed wetting. You might want to check out if he have a hernia in that area. I know a teenage boy who stopped bed wetting after repairing of a hernia.
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