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Does anyone have a Mkor why everyone waits for the chazan at yishtabach even though this constitutes a hafsaka and all poskim(that I’ve seen) say that one should go to the end of the bracha instead of waiting?
I say yishtabach then wait
Sometimes a new baal tefilah is called to say yishtabach
Who says that simply waiting is considered a Hefsek?
No, he’s supposed to go outside and look for three more people to complete the minyan, talking freely while doing so, then come back and say yishtabach and immediately start barchu without waiting for his three captives to catch up
there was a certain person who wrote this.
“I really hope that this is a joke post. I hope you have the sechel and wisdom to come to the correct decision regarding your children’s’ socks. I hope the Talmidei Chachomim of the CR can help you exercise good judgement over this.”
sounds familar? use this for this as welllI finish ישתבח and wait.
בעל תפילה should wait so קדיש can be next to ישתבחI always say Yishtabach. No sense for tzibur to wait. Obvously shatz has to wait.
Commonsaychel,
That reply wasn’t even directed at you
Shimon Nodel,
“No, he’s supposed to go outside and look for three more people to complete the minyan, talking freely while doing so, then come back and say yishtabach and immediately start barchu without waiting for his three captives to catch up”
1. It is permissible to interrupt pesukei d’zimra to prevent a loss, to respond to a greeting, etc. I think attempting to secure a minyan for shacharis would fall into this category of permissible interruptions.
2. Captives? That’s quite the negative outlook.
3. What about tircha d’tzibbur? I don’t think it would be permissible to wait.you didn’t insult me at all, the same thought process that applied to ankle socks also applied to the topic at hand, and for any topic that if you think for two minutes you will have your answer
people who were late for minyan (aka captives) have an option to say Shma/Shmone Esre with the kahal first and then catch up.
The halacha is one who comes late should say Baruch Sheomar and Ashrei and say Yishtabach together with the tzibur. We want a minyan to answer for Yishtabach.
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