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November 7, 2022 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #2136175JustPlsDontCauseChillulHashemParticipant
Does anyone have a Mkor why everyone waits for the chazan at yishtabach even though this constitutes a hafsaka and all poskim(that I’ve seen) say that one should go to the end of the bracha instead of waiting?
November 7, 2022 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #2136306☕️coffee addictParticipantI say yishtabach then wait
November 7, 2022 8:30 pm at 8:30 pm #2136311lakewhutParticipantSometimes a new baal tefilah is called to say yishtabach
November 7, 2022 11:13 pm at 11:13 pm #2136324Yabia OmerParticipantWho says that simply waiting is considered a Hefsek?
November 7, 2022 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm #2136348Shimon NodelParticipantNo, he’s supposed to go outside and look for three more people to complete the minyan, talking freely while doing so, then come back and say yishtabach and immediately start barchu without waiting for his three captives to catch up
November 8, 2022 6:54 am at 6:54 am #2136371commonsaychelParticipantthere was a certain person who wrote this.
“I really hope that this is a joke post. I hope you have the sechel and wisdom to come to the correct decision regarding your children’s’ socks. I hope the Talmidei Chachomim of the CR can help you exercise good judgement over this.”
sounds familar? use this for this as welllNovember 8, 2022 2:14 pm at 2:14 pm #2136458Just.A.GuyParticipantI finish ישתבח and wait.
בעל תפילה should wait so קדיש can be next to ישתבחNovember 8, 2022 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #2136473JustPlsDontCauseChillulHashemParticipant@common I’m sorry if I insulted you by writing that-you’re honestly right, I feel bad. But what has that got to do with the topic at hand???
November 8, 2022 2:16 pm at 2:16 pm #2136483Ben LaviParticipantI always say Yishtabach. No sense for tzibur to wait. Obvously shatz has to wait.
November 8, 2022 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #2136506☕️coffee addictParticipantCommonsaychel,
That reply wasn’t even directed at you
November 8, 2022 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #2136507Avram in MDParticipantShimon Nodel,
“No, he’s supposed to go outside and look for three more people to complete the minyan, talking freely while doing so, then come back and say yishtabach and immediately start barchu without waiting for his three captives to catch up”
1. It is permissible to interrupt pesukei d’zimra to prevent a loss, to respond to a greeting, etc. I think attempting to secure a minyan for shacharis would fall into this category of permissible interruptions.
2. Captives? That’s quite the negative outlook.
3. What about tircha d’tzibbur? I don’t think it would be permissible to wait.November 8, 2022 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #2136563commonsaychelParticipantyou didn’t insult me at all, the same thought process that applied to ankle socks also applied to the topic at hand, and for any topic that if you think for two minutes you will have your answer
November 8, 2022 7:27 pm at 7:27 pm #2136581Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantpeople who were late for minyan (aka captives) have an option to say Shma/Shmone Esre with the kahal first and then catch up.
November 9, 2022 11:24 am at 11:24 am #2136759Reb EliezerParticipantThe halacha is one who comes late should say Baruch Sheomar and Ashrei and say Yishtabach together with the tzibur. We want a minyan to answer for Yishtabach.
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