Very Interesting! The Reason Why We Eat Jelly Donuts On Chanukah

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  • #990796
    BTGuy
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    Hi WIY.

    Thank you for sharing that. : )

    #990797
    popa_bar_abba
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    Riddle:

    On chanuka one year, popa eats 3 jelly donuts on the first day. How many will he eat on the second day?

    #990798
    WIY
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    4?

    #990799
    HaLeiVi
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    Is this a Netflix question?

    #990800
    BaalHabooze
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    what a great thread!

    I think we eat donuts

    1) to remind us of the oil

    2) Traaaaadition!

    3) because what else are you gonna do with them?

    4) makes a great dessert to my bagels and lox sandwich.

    Nuuuu Popa where you holding in the donuts count on day 3?

    #990801
    tzaddiq
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    i just ate my first jelly doughnut since like 2nd grade. i’m 39 now, but anyways. never liked them as much as the other flavoured doughnuts. was actually pretty good.

    #990802
    popa_bar_abba
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    Great thread. I want donuts.

    #990803
    HaLeiVi
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    Sounds like you just got over eating three at once.

    #990804
    HaLeiVi
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    It’s Mashma in Tosafos that they used to wash on the Hamantaschen on Purim.

    #990805
    popa_bar_abba
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    they probably ate the poppy ones

    #990806
    DaMoshe
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    I was upset that the bakery near me only had jelly and custard donuts, but no Ribat Chalav donuts.

    #990807
    HaLeiVi
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    Popa, so you are Yotze with other Minim besides wine?

    #990808
    TinyTim
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    The Greeks worship the body. We as Jews do not. Soooo we eat as many oily and fatty foods so that by the end of Chanukah we should look somewhat like a doughnut and it should be really clear where we stand as far as our relationship to the Greek within us.

    #990809
    MDG
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    Today’s Daf, Yoma 25, mentions the Kohen Gadol’s Mincha Offering, the Chavitin. It was made from flour and olive oil (Minachot 52). The oil that they found, with the seal of the K”G, was the oil for his Mincha.

    #990810
    HaLeiVi
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    It makes sense considering that according to some Medrashim it was found under the Mizbei’ach.

    #990811
    WIY
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    MDG

    “The oil that they found, with the seal of the K”G, was the oil for his Mincha.”

    That is one pshat but not everyone is maskim. A big problem with that pshat is that the quatity of oil for his mincha was considerably less than would be required to light for even one day. So if I remember correctly I think some want to say that this was the neis that even on the first day the oil burned a whole day.

    #990812
    MDG
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    “A big problem with that pshat is that the quatity of oil for his mincha was considerably less than would be required to light for even one day.”

    The following comes from the sefer Hegyonai Halacha by R’ Mirsky (my translation and paraphrase):

    The Chavitin required 3 log, whereas the Menorah required 3.5 log (1/2 log per ner times 7). There is a different girsa of the the shiltot of Rav Achi Goan. Our Gemaras say that there was not enough oil except for one day (eleh l’yom echad), but his girsa says that there was not enough even for one day (afilu l’yom echad). Another answer to the question of the Beit Yosef.

    Another problem is that the oil for the Chavitin is of lower quality. The K”G, however, used the highest quality oil, even good enough for the Menorah. That is why Hanukkah has Mehadrin and Mehadrin min haMehadrin, unlike any other holiday. They were so careful about all their Avodah and so we also inherit such hiddur.

    #990813
    MDG
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    One big difference between the Chavitin offering and donuts. The Chavitin was flour and oil and so are donuts. But the Chavitin was completely burned, unlike our donuts.

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