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He probably won’t kill most Americans.
And he’s promising a free pony for every American! He’s also the only candidate who has a plan for dealing with the zombie threat.
As well as a most marvelous plan to solve the middle east crisis!!!
Well the current leading candidates, most certainly the Demcrat, are really supreme vermin. What we need is the fact opposite, that may be his in.
Like many political articles and Rebyidd23’s posts, I’m unsure if this thread is serious.
I’d vote for Supreme, but with his tooth-brushing initiative, maybe he might have some kind of deals with these big toothpaste businesses? I’m wary of supporting a candidate with ties to big business.
Like many political articles and Rebyidd23’s posts, I’m unsure if this thread is serious.
Actually, believe it or not, there is a person named Vermin Supreme and he *is* a candidate for the Presidency and he will, in all likelihood, not kill most Americans.
Of course, it’s not a serious run for office, but it’s certainly not something made up by RebYidd. A simple Google search will verify.
The Wolf
Of course, it’s not a serious run for office
Trump’s didn’t start as one either.
Trump’s didn’t start as one either.
True. Given that, perhaps there is hope that Supreme can overtake Trump. He’d certainly be a better candidate. 🙂 :p
The Wolf
I totally agree with his idea of research for time travel to kill hitler ym”s, do you realize how many Jews that saves?
I think he should also have Germany pay for it, they could use up all the saved money from reparations they have for it
ca – that comment really gives me goosebumps. i have NO doubt you were joking, but that comment felt like an affirmation that the holocaust was a hashgocha-less cause and affect happening of nature if I ever heard one. **shudder**
Coffee, Dumbledore should be able to help out with that.
I totally agree with his idea of research for time travel to kill hitler ym”s, do you realize how many Jews that saves?
Do you know how many Jews that kills?
If you think about it, practically everyone who had ancestors in Europe during WWII had their lives irrevocably altered by the Holocaust. Remove that massive event, and lots of people who currently exist would never do so.
I would probably still be here (as all my ancestors were in NYC by 1915), but my kids wouldn’t… my wife’s parents would never have come to the US if the Holocaust had not occurred and Eeees’ and I would never have met.
Of course the Holocaust should never have happened, but now that it has, taking action to “undo” it would cause millions of Jews to simply cease to exist. Should these millions be sacrificed for the millions who died?
I’m not willing to sacrifice my kids for someone who died 75 years ago. Does that make me a selfish piece of garbage? Perhaps, but so be it.
The Wolf
If time travel were possible, someone from the future would have already come back.
That having been said, Wolf, perhaps you would have married someone else, as Ees would have, perhaps people who otherwise would have perished.
Yes, some people would have not existed (in their physical form), but the sum total would be much greater (all things being equal), and probably all of the same neshamos would have come down, plus more.
Probably, you would still have kids who you would love equally to your actual kids, and your kids would still exist, perhaps in different bodies.
The answer to your question, Do you know how many Jews that kills?is zero.
The answer to your question, Do you know how many Jews that kills?is zero.
OK, “kills” is perhaps the wrong word. The more correct terminology would be “wipes out of existence.”
The Wolf
Probably, you would still have kids who you would love equally to your actual kids, and your kids would still exist, perhaps in different bodies.
Then they’d be actual different people and not my kids.
Like I said, I’m not willing to give up their existence for someone who died three quarters of a century ago. If that makes me a selfish piece of garbage, I’ll cop to it.
The Wolf
The more correct terminology would be “wipes out of existence.”
Still too strong. According to you, prevents their existence, although I don’t agree with that either.
Then they’d be actual different people and not my kids.
No, they would be your kids.
I’m not willing to give up their existence for someone who died three quarters of a century ago
It’s not just for someone who lived 75 years ago, it’s also for their descendants, some of whom would be your kids and grandkids.
Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?
Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?
What if it was possible, but only in a limited sense (i.e. no more than 100 years in any direction) and won’t be invented for 200 years?
The Wolf
I don’t know why, once conceptually it were possible (I don’t think it is), there would be a limit. Even if there was, they would bring the technology back in time as many times as necessary to have already done so.
DY -“Anyhow, any comment on my proof that there is no time travel?”
I heard that one of the Tiroozim to Yediah & Bechira is that Hashem does time travel!
Is it possible for humans to do it? IDK if Hashem would give that to humans. I doubt it; because why do you need such a thing as Teshuva? Just go back in time and correct whatever it is!
I don’t know why, once conceptually it were possible
It would depend on how you choose to do it. Here’s one hypothetical whereby you would be limited.
Imagine a model as follows:
You create a stable wormhole in the year 2016.
You keep one end of it (side A) here on earth and fly the other end (side B) on a ship a near c speed, which then time dilates into the future.
You could, in theory, travel from the future (side B) to the present (side A), but you could only go to a time when the wormhole existed. Since it did not exist before 2016, you cannot use it to travel further back in the past than that point.
The Wolf
If conceptually it were possible, there would probably be more than one way to do it.
Either way, you should at least agree that going back to pre WWII is disproven.
Either way, you should at least agree that going back to pre WWII is disproven.
Not necessarily.
It’s logically possible that WWII turned out really, really, really badly for the the world with lots more deaths worldwide, and that someone in the future calculated all the possible scenarios and determined that the one we know of held the least damage worldwide and, as a result, created the reality we know today. In other words, it could be argued that the war was inevitable and that the outcome we had (as horrific as it was) was the best possible outcome (i.e. that all the other outcomes had far, far more deaths worldwide).
The Wolf
Health: Hashem doesn’t “time travel”. Hashem isn’t bound by time. There is a tremendous difference there.
Sam2 -“Health: Hashem doesn’t “time travel”.”
Did you read the whole post? To answer the question of Yediah & Bechira, it’s like he does time travel. Even though you have a choice, he knows what you chose!
Health: I did read your post. You didn’t say “it’s like”, you said that “one of the Tiroozim [sic]… is that Hashem does time travel!” Being outside of time is not time travel. It’s something else.
Also, the “outside of time” answer is not saying that even though you have a choice, He knows what you choose. That is R’ Saadya Gaon’s opinion, that God knowing has nothing to do with what we choose. The outside of time answer is a separate concept.
Sam2 -“That is R’ Saadya Gaon’s opinion, that God knowing has nothing to do with what we choose”
I answered the question of Yediah & Bechira. According to you, you haven’t answered the Steerah!
Vermin’s looking better and better. Time to research how to do a write-in.
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