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December 14, 2015 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #616833izzygParticipant
R. Shlomo SHick in his out-of-print volume on Breishis, discusses the Rashi that Shimon married Dinah. IMPOSSIBLE! same mother and father! rather Dinah didn’t want to leave SHechem’s house for she knew she was pregnant. Afraid it was a girl – who would marry her? Shimon promised to do so. She is a true Canaanis, as the Torah calls her due to her father the Canaani. [How could the Torah insult Dinah and call her a Canaanis??] Now the # of 70 is perfect, and also explains the phrase about Leah “his sons and his daughterS” (46:15).
Now (46:27) totals 70 for the family by adding Yosef and his 2 sons, while (46:26) lists 66 without them. WHAT? 66+3 = 70??
But v.26 excludes all wives of the shevatim, therefore Shimon’s wife, daughter of Dinah, was left out!
If the reader doesn’t get it, it is fully detailed in the first volume of “Great Torah Lights” (5 volumes on Chumash) by Rabbi Yitzchak Goodman – almost out-of-print – some left over volumes on AMazon sold for $50. by “Bnei HaMechaber”.
December 16, 2015 10:33 pm at 10:33 pm #1117922☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantAm I missing something? What about Yocheved,
or is there a total of 69 including her?
December 16, 2015 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #1117923☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantAlso, “IMPOSSIBLE! same mother and father!”
Isn’t there a medrash that says the shevatim
all had twin sisters and married them?
December 16, 2015 10:52 pm at 10:52 pm #1117924WolfishMusingsParticipantIsn’t there a medrash that says the shevatim
all had twin sisters and married them?
Yes, but they would marry a sister from a different mother (Reuven, for example, might marry Gad’s twin, but not Levi’s).
The Wolf
December 16, 2015 11:26 pm at 11:26 pm #1117925☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantSource, please.
December 16, 2015 11:32 pm at 11:32 pm #1117926Mashiach AgentMemberYOCHEVED was born as they entered egypt
December 16, 2015 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #1117927WolfishMusingsParticipantSource, please.
For what? For what I said?
I don’t have an explicit source, but it’s common sense. Full brother-sister marriage is prohibited even to a Ben Noach. So it makes sense that they married half-sisters from different mothers.
The Wolf
December 16, 2015 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #1117928☢️ Rand0m3x 🎲ParticipantAnd she completes the count of 70. That was my point.
December 22, 2015 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #1117929GoldilocksParticipantNow that is an interesting theory!
I always thought that Dina’s daughter was Osnat (who married Yosef).
Was I mistaken about that?
As to how Shimon could have married Dina: I once heard that Dina and Yosef were about the same age. Rachel was pregnant with Dina and Leah was pregnant with Yosef. During the pregnancy, Leah davened that her baby should be a girl, so Hashem made a “nes” and swiched the babies.
So Dina was partly Rachel’s daughter…therefore she was allowed to marry Shimon.
Did anyone else hear this?
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